All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
44
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
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seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:29 pm Watch the video. All the way to the end:

https://thebulwark.com/anatomy-of-a-viral-lie/

Boy until I watched this I thought I was living in bizarro world.

6ft almost had me convinced I hadn't in fact seen all those things when they occurred. :lol:
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seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:29 pm Watch the video. All the way to the end:

https://thebulwark.com/anatomy-of-a-viral-lie/
He was right......if you sit around and take care of yourself, 1000's are getting better. ;)

I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting. All in all, we are still quite low on deaths and as the test numbers go up, the percentage of death should go down....assuming the death count does not follow.
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
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Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
Optimistic :D

Look at mainland China....their numbers have stayed quite steady after the peak, the number recovered keeps going up. Unless the JHU site is not updating any longer. China is currently at an 84% recovery rate, with certainly more still on the mend.
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Oh, you mean like his ability to loot the treasury some more if he were to get elected again. :lol:
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I’m old enough to remember when Trump wanted 2 Billion and Pelosi said he needed at least 8 Billion, and he said, okay, I’ll take it. Two weeks later he needs a Trillion bucks.
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:56 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
Optimistic :D

Look at mainland China....their numbers have stayed quite steady after the peak, the number recovered keeps going up. Unless the JHU site is not updating any longer. China is currently at an 84% recovery rate, with certainly more still on the mend.
youth, let's do this math again.

If 40% of 360 million Americans contract and 84% "recover", how many don't recover?
Of course, that's not the actual mortality, as we do expect closer to 98-99% to "recover".

But, yeah, 16% get seriously ill, need hospitalization in order to have best chance of survival.

And that 16% will overwhelm our system if we don't flatten the curve.

The Chinese did it with very draconian state-enforced means of "social distancing", forced quarantine of ill (no 'self-quarantining' if gov't knew). Drones enforcing, cameras everywhere.

But hey, its a democrat MSM 'hoax' to be concerned.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:56 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
Optimistic :D

Look at mainland China....their numbers have stayed quite steady after the peak, the number recovered keeps going up. Unless the JHU site is not updating any longer. China is currently at an 84% recovery rate, with certainly more still on the mend.
youth, let's do this math again.

If 40% of 360 million Americans contract and 84% "recover", how many don't recover?
Of course, that's not the actual mortality, as we do expect closer to 98-99% to "recover".

But, yeah, 16% get seriously ill, need hospitalization in order to have best chance of survival.

And that 16% will overwhelm our system if we don't flatten the curve.

The Chinese did it with very draconian state-enforced means of "social distancing", forced quarantine of ill (no 'self-quarantining' if gov't knew). Drones enforcing, cameras everywhere.

But hey, its a democrat MSM 'hoax' to be concerned.
That recovery number is climbing in China and the contracted number is barely ticking up and the death rate as also barely ticking up. Point being.....the recovery rate is climbing daily.

Your math assumes the entire population.....as did your points earlier when I did the math based on 350 Millions in the USA.

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youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:30 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:56 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
Optimistic :D

Look at mainland China....their numbers have stayed quite steady after the peak, the number recovered keeps going up. Unless the JHU site is not updating any longer. China is currently at an 84% recovery rate, with certainly more still on the mend.
youth, let's do this math again.

If 40% of 360 million Americans contract and 84% "recover", how many don't recover?
Of course, that's not the actual mortality, as we do expect closer to 98-99% to "recover".

But, yeah, 16% get seriously ill, need hospitalization in order to have best chance of survival.

And that 16% will overwhelm our system if we don't flatten the curve.

The Chinese did it with very draconian state-enforced means of "social distancing", forced quarantine of ill (no 'self-quarantining' if gov't knew). Drones enforcing, cameras everywhere.

But hey, its a democrat MSM 'hoax' to be concerned.
That recovery number is climbing in China and the contracted number is barely ticking up and the death rate as also barely ticking up. Point being.....the recovery rate is climbing daily.

Your math assumes the entire population.....as did your points earlier when I did the math based on 350 Millions in the USA.

Stay positive and find positive.
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Look at the green line on the bottom right of the JHU site graphic. Is it going in the right direction? zactly, stop being a troll.
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foreverlax wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:36 pm
seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:29 pm Watch the video. All the way to the end:

https://thebulwark.com/anatomy-of-a-viral-lie/
Way to go Dr. Carson, as the saying goes, his comments will age extremely well.
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:51 pm Look at the green line on the bottom right of the JHU site graphic. Is it going in the right direction? zactly, stop being a troll.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:51 pm Look at the green line on the bottom right of the JHU site graphic. Is it going in the right direction? zactly, stop being a troll.
You trust the Chinese this week? Stop being a hypocrite.
The green line is combined. #Troll "What is bad for America, is good for TLD"
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Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
He's serious. The limbo these guys will go to to see normality where the rest of the world sees a raging amoral narcissist consumed only by his reelection is remarkable.
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:51 pm Look at the green line on the bottom right of the JHU site graphic. Is it going in the right direction? zactly, stop being a troll.
You trust the Chinese this week? Stop being a hypocrite.
The green line is combined. #Troll "What is bad for America, is good for TLD"
Right now, the overall death rate is close to 4%. I am hoping that we come in under 1%. The lower the better. You still think the Chinese should have let us help them?
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seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:04 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
He's serious. The limbo these guys will go to to see normality where the rest of the world sees a raging amoral narcissist consumed only by his reelection is remarkable.
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seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:04 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
He's serious. The limbo these guys will go to to see normality where the rest of the world sees a raging amoral narcissist consumed only by his reelection is remarkable.
As I said earlier, I am optimistic and believe things will always turn out for the best in the long run. You hard core never trumpers want nothing but failure for our country, simply to justify your arguemnts. Vast difference in my approach, compared to the vas deferens approach. 8-)
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:30 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:56 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
Optimistic :D

Look at mainland China....their numbers have stayed quite steady after the peak, the number recovered keeps going up. Unless the JHU site is not updating any longer. China is currently at an 84% recovery rate, with certainly more still on the mend.
youth, let's do this math again.

If 40% of 360 million Americans contract and 84% "recover", how many don't recover?
Of course, that's not the actual mortality, as we do expect closer to 98-99% to "recover".

But, yeah, 16% get seriously ill, need hospitalization in order to have best chance of survival.

And that 16% will overwhelm our system if we don't flatten the curve.

The Chinese did it with very draconian state-enforced means of "social distancing", forced quarantine of ill (no 'self-quarantining' if gov't knew). Drones enforcing, cameras everywhere.

But hey, its a democrat MSM 'hoax' to be concerned.
That recovery number is climbing in China and the contracted number is barely ticking up and the death rate as also barely ticking up. Point being.....the recovery rate is climbing daily.

Your math assumes the entire population.....as did your points earlier when I did the math based on 350 Millions in the USA.

Stay positive and find positive.
Nope, it ain't about staying positive.

It's recognizing how big the problem is if we allow it to spread, which it will throughout the population given no existing immunities and no vaccine.

Yes, the Chinese were able to put a lid on spread, through hugely draconian measures for several months, slowly easing back now. We're still putting out BS through TrumpNation that this is a 15 day problem!

As I said, in addition to the million + fatalities of already vulnerable population, the even bigger issue is if it overwhelms the healthcare system. An awful lot of suffering.
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:34 pm
seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:04 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:47 pm I do not blame him one bit, as I posted earlier, this was more about avoiding mass chaos across the country...think looting.
Are you serious or joking? It seems like you're serious...
He's serious. The limbo these guys will go to to see normality where the rest of the world sees a raging amoral narcissist consumed only by his reelection is remarkable.
As I said earlier, I am optimistic and believe things will always turn out for the best in the long run. You hard core never trumpers want nothing but failure for our country, simply to justify your arguemnts. Vast difference in my approach, compared to the vas deferens approach. 8-)
Yeah, we just want "failure for our country". :roll: :roll: :roll:
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