All things CoronaVirus

[cradleandshoot]

Leadership:

"No, I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a — a set of circumstances, and we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time."

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/81536336 ... -swine-flu

We’ll survive, but not because of anything this nincompoop did.

Close, we will survive because regardless of the dumb F***s leading the country, WE ARE ALL AMERICANS and we will get past this. That is what Americans do.

[Farfromgeneva]

A bit more interest in the truth (and maybe a little discipline) would help buffer the public our man is supposed to represent.

https://www.axios.com/trumps-google-mat ... e9c08.html

[smoova]

"No, I don't take responsibility at all ... "

7 words to define this presidency.

[njbill]

Just spoke with my son and daughter in law, test came back negative late this afternoon. So figure about 48 hours after the need for the test was noted and approved.

Great news!

[Typical Lax Dad]

Protect yourself with (duh!) good hygene and social distancing:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-to-p ... 01500.html

Don't go to China:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/cdc-tel ... reads.html

Potential Global Impact:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... -outbreak/

Please change the name of this thread back to “All Things Coronavirus.” We shouldn’t be propagating Donald Trump’s xenophobia. This virus is everyone’s problem now. Thank you.

DocBarrister

1,000 people were dead and over 50,000 people had H1N1 before Obama got out of the starting blocks. Compared to Trump he got "cooked in the squat". Trump jumped the starter's gun and banned travel from China and was called a xenophobe. Doc, it's only a phobia if it's irrational. The decision looks perfectly rational to me and most of the rest of America.

Your numbers are wrong. The swine flu didn’t have a 2% mortality rate....but of course, Obamer is held to a higher standard...

“At the current rate, the United States would hit 20,000 cases in a matter of weeks, not six months. What's more, the swine flu had a mortality rate of 0.02 percent — about one-50th of the lowest rate health officials are citing for the coronavirus today (1 percent).”

That’s the lowest rate (1%).... we will give your boy the benefit of the doubt

[old salt]

Here's a good map site which updates frequently :

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... s-n1124546

[6ftstick]

Protect yourself with (duh!) good hygene and social distancing:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-to-p ... 01500.html

Don't go to China:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/cdc-tel ... reads.html

Potential Global Impact:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... -outbreak/

Please change the name of this thread back to “All Things Coronavirus.” We shouldn’t be propagating Donald Trump’s xenophobia. This virus is everyone’s problem now. Thank you.

DocBarrister

1,000 people were dead and over 50,000 people had H1N1 before Obama got out of the starting blocks. Compared to Trump he got "cooked in the squat". Trump jumped the starter's gun and banned travel from China and was called a xenophobe. Doc, it's only a phobia if it's irrational. The decision looks perfectly rational to me and most of the rest of America.

Your numbers are wrong. The swine flu didn’t have a 2% mortality rate....but of course, Obamer is held to a higher standard...

“At the current rate, the United States would hit 20,000 cases in a matter of weeks, not six months. What's more, the swine flu had a mortality rate of 0.02 percent — about one-50th of the lowest rate health officials are citing for the coronavirus today (1 percent).”

That’s the lowest rate (1%).... we will give your boy the benefit of the doubt

Can't you get it through your thick skull Obama wasn't held to ANY standard—before during or after 12,000 Americans died of H1 N1.

[youthathletics]

Here's a good map site which updates frequently :

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... s-n1124546

Interesting how WVA has none.

[old salt]

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency.

I'd really have to have a timeline, with certainty of facts, to truly buy into your argument. In the grand scheme of things, the US is is in a great spot, and frankly, much of the US virus infiltration came from travelers. All these actions taken today, could not have taken place, because as yo noted earlier, testing required blood and (possible stool) samples, whereas now it is a drive-thru swab. You have to respect the fact that we did not get out over our skis and make matters worse with testing that could have been providing inaccurate results.

So not having kits was a good thing?

Yes, If they were only 50% accurate, like many of China's.

[6ftstick]

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency.

So is that crow you seem to be eating.

[Typical Lax Dad]

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency.

I'd really have to have a timeline, with certainty of facts, to truly buy into your argument. In the grand scheme of things, the US is is in a great spot, and frankly, much of the US virus infiltration came from travelers. All these actions taken today, could not have taken place, because as yo noted earlier, testing required blood and (possible stool) samples, whereas now it is a drive-thru swab. You have to respect the fact that we did not get out over our skis and make matters worse with testing that could have been providing inaccurate results.

So not having kits was a good thing?

Yes, If they were only 50% accurate, like many of China's.

IF

[Trinity]

Nothing Trump says is true. Senator Sherrod Brown challenged his decision to disband the pandemic team almost two years ago.

“Not true, @realDonaldTrump. I wrote to you more than 600 days ago demanding answers after you fired the entire White House pandemic team.”

[6ftstick]

Well my goodness

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/death-rate ... udy-finds/

Death rates from 2009 "swine flu" pandemic 15 times higher than earlier estimates, study finds

[Trinity]

Death rates in Italy are almost 7%. Iran almost 5%. That’s bigly bad.

Meanwhile, another Maralago guest tests positive.

[youthathletics]

Nothing Trump says is true. Senator Sherrod Brown challenged his decision to disband the pandemic team almost two years ago.

“Not true, @realDonaldTrump. I wrote to you more than 600 days ago demanding answers after you fired the entire White House pandemic team.”

Good for him to get called out....those are learning lessons.

[youthathletics]

Nothing Trump says is true. Senator Sherrod Brown challenged his decision to disband the pandemic team almost two years ago.

“Not true, @realDonaldTrump. I wrote to you more than 600 days ago demanding answers after you fired the entire White House pandemic team.”

Good for him to get called out....those are learning lessons. I bet you never made a mistake in your line of work.

[Trinity]

It’s amazing how the media is omitting that Brazil patient zero also went to Kim Guilfoyle’s birthday party with Donzo Jr. It’s tee-ball for these idiots and they still suck at it.

[old salt]

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency.

I'd really have to have a timeline, with certainty of facts, to truly buy into your argument. In the grand scheme of things, the US is is in a great spot, and frankly, much of the US virus infiltration came from travelers. All these actions taken today, could not have taken place, because as yo noted earlier, testing required blood and (possible stool) samples, whereas now it is a drive-thru swab. You have to respect the fact that we did not get out over our skis and make matters worse with testing that could have been providing inaccurate results.

So not having kits was a good thing?

Yes, If they were only 50% accurate, like many of China's.

IF

For clowntroll's reading pleasure :

https://www.scmp.com/tech/science-resea ... d-shortage

Race to diagnose coronavirus patients constrained by shortage of reliable detection kits

Chinese authorities issued approvals within two weeks for seven kits that employ the nucleic acid method to test for the presence of the virus

...since the test involves several steps, a mistake at any one stage could affect the outcome, Li Yan, head of the diagnostic centre at the People’s Hospital of Wuhan University, said in an interview with state broadcaster CCTV on Sunday.
The accuracy rate of the test is only 30 to 50 per cent, said Wang Chen, president of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, during a CCTV interview on Wednesday.

[Typical Lax Dad]

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency.

I'd really have to have a timeline, with certainty of facts, to truly buy into your argument. In the grand scheme of things, the US is is in a great spot, and frankly, much of the US virus infiltration came from travelers. All these actions taken today, could not have taken place, because as yo noted earlier, testing required blood and (possible stool) samples, whereas now it is a drive-thru swab. You have to respect the fact that we did not get out over our skis and make matters worse with testing that could have been providing inaccurate results.

So not having kits was a good thing?

Yes, If they were only 50% accurate, like many of China's.

IF

For clowntroll's reading pleasure :

https://www.scmp.com/tech/science-resea ... d-shortage

Race to diagnose coronavirus patients constrained by shortage of reliable detection kits

Chinese authorities issued approvals within two weeks for seven kits that employ the nucleic acid method to test for the presence of the virus

...since the test involves several steps, a mistake at any one stage could affect the outcome, Li Yan, head of the diagnostic centre at the People’s Hospital of Wuhan University, said in an interview with state broadcaster CCTV on Sunday.
The accuracy rate of the test is only 30 to 50 per cent, said Wang Chen, president of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, during a CCTV interview on Wednesday.

China supplied the WHO?


https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-51836898

These orientals can get back to eating penis.

[Trinity]

This means so much to Mitch he’s in Kentucky at a Boof Kavanaugh event.