All things CoronaVirus

[Trinity]

Another WH dumpster fire with the standard blame shifting and airing of grievances, @VP suckuppery, and no useful information. But he may have exposed everyone to #COVID19.
Trump takes no responsibility. What a surprise!

[jhu72]

Just spoke with my son and daughter in law, test came back negative late this afternoon. So figure about 48 hours after the need for the test was noted and approved.

[youthathletics]

Just spoke with my son and daughter in law, test came back negative late this afternoon. So figure about 48 hours after the need for the test was noted and approved.

Great news jhu, thanks for sharing.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Just spoke with my son and daughter in law, test came back negative late this afternoon. So figure about 48 hours after the need for the test was noted and approved.

Excellent

[youthathletics]

Chuck Todd a few minutes ago....."Why is Washington making something that is so easy, difficult". Where is TLD's clown emoji when you need it.

[jhu72]

David Frum wrote in the Atlantic:

.......the president and his administration are responsible for grave, costly errors, most especially the epic manufacturing failures in diagnostic testing, the decision to test too few people, the delay in expanding testing to labs outside the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and problems in the supply chain. These mistakes have left us blind and badly behind the curve, and, for a few crucial weeks, they created a false sense of security. What we now know is that the coronavirus silently spread for several weeks, without us being aware of it and while we were doing nothing to stop it. Containment and mitigation efforts could have significantly slowed its spread at an early, critical point, but we frittered away that opportunity.

“They’ve simply lost time they can’t make up. You can’t get back six weeks of blindness,” Jeremy Konyndyk, who helped oversee the international response to Ebola during the Obama administration and is a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development, told The Washington Post. “To the extent that there’s someone to blame here, the blame is on poor, chaotic management from the White House and failure to acknowledge the big picture.”

As I see it, DJT didn't want a health crisis because he (or his advisers) knew that a pandemic would affect consumers which would affect revenues and workers which would affect GDP.

He thought first of the mantra that the middle, who determine elections, vote on the economy. A pandemic 10 months before an election is a **Very Bad** for an incumbent hoping to leverage an economy that has been growing for a dozen years, because the stock market will crash to Bear and the marginal wage earners will get smushed.

So he put a lid on it. He hoped it all would just go away, and didn't organize a plan B in case the worst case scenario happened.

The bad news for the White House: His suppression campaign was picked up by the right wing media and now most of the old white under-informed voters are loyally treating this pandemic as a hoax.

The good news for the White House: He managed to leverage the private sector which can and does respond quickly when their costs are covered and regulatory easing is thrown in. He may be catching up.

I just watched the 3 PM presser on Fox. Trumps looked sleepy and sounded disengaged. The message I got is that he finally submitted to the scientists and is hoping that if he contributes his clout to their solutions everything will be OK. I was impressed by his team, and happy that he'd given them carte blanche to resolve this. I still am angry that he suppressed any response domestically until the pandemic became obvious even to the press. I will call this a win for him unless someone I know is killed.

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency. Hopefully he has learned something, although I am afraid I know the answer to that and how it will turn out.

[seacoaster]

Just spoke with my son and daughter in law, test came back negative late this afternoon. So figure about 48 hours after the need for the test was noted and approved.

Very good news.

[Trinity]

Excellent

[youthathletics]

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency.

I'd really have to have a timeline, with certainty of facts, to truly buy into your argument. In the grand scheme of things, the US is is in a great spot, and frankly, much of the US virus infiltration came from travelers. All these actions taken today, could not have taken place, because as yo noted earlier, testing required blood and (possible stool) samples, whereas now it is a drive-thru swab. You have to respect the fact that we did not get out over our skis and make matters worse with testing that could have been providing inaccurate results.

[Kismet]

Just spoke with my son and daughter in law, test came back negative late this afternoon. So figure about 48 hours after the need for the test was noted and approved.

Very good news.

fantastic news.

[Trinity]

If I was still a cop I’d lock up Pence for performing unnatural acts in public. This team is lost. Mismanagement like even Putin could not have hoped for. Trump’s bragging our numbers are low. He has no frigging idea. He’s making Bush at Katrina look like Eisenhower at D Day

[Typical Lax Dad]

The thing with his presser dog and pony show is, HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TWO MONTHS AGO. I don't think the national emergency declaration had to be done then, but it could have been. I am glad he now seems to be moving in the right direction, but it does not make up for ignoring the experts for months, bungling the test kit issue, and the total lack of transparency up until recently and still no where near the needed transparency.

I'd really have to have a timeline, with certainty of facts, to truly buy into your argument. In the grand scheme of things, the US is is in a great spot, and frankly, much of the US virus infiltration came from travelers. All these actions taken today, could not have taken place, because as yo noted earlier, testing required blood and (possible stool) samples, whereas now it is a drive-thru swab. You have to respect the fact that we did not get out over our skis and make matters worse with testing that could have been providing inaccurate results.

So not having kits was a good thing?

[DocBarrister]

Just spoke with my son and daughter in law, test came back negative late this afternoon. So figure about 48 hours after the need for the test was noted and approved.

Very good news.

fantastic news.

Terrific news!

Well, that’s one test done. Now just 199,999 to go and we’ll be all caught up to where we should have been last month.

DocBarrister

[Trinity]

Borat was tested today in Kazakhstan. In America, no such luck.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Borat was tested today in Kazakhstan. In America, no such luck.

YA said it’s a good thing we weren’t testing earlier. We would have been out over our skis like the rest of the world....South Korea is wrong about seeing the virus peak with the tests kits that the Trump administration turned away because they were no good.

[DocBarrister]

Protect yourself with (duh!) good hygene and social distancing:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-to-p ... 01500.html

Don't go to China:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/cdc-tel ... reads.html

Potential Global Impact:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... -outbreak/

Please change the name of this thread back to “All Things Coronavirus.” We shouldn’t be propagating Donald Trump’s xenophobia. This virus is everyone’s problem now. Thank you.

DocBarrister

[get it to x]

Protect yourself with (duh!) good hygene and social distancing:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-to-p ... 01500.html

Don't go to China:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/cdc-tel ... reads.html

Potential Global Impact:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... -outbreak/

Please change the name of this thread back to “All Things Coronavirus.” We shouldn’t be propagating Donald Trump’s xenophobia. This virus is everyone’s problem now. Thank you.

DocBarrister

1,000 people were dead and over 50,000 people had H1N1 before Obama got out of the starting blocks. Compared to Trump he got "cooked in the squat". Trump jumped the starter's gun and banned travel from China and was called a xenophobe. Doc, it's only a phobia if it's irrational. The decision looks perfectly rational to me and most of the rest of America.

[cradleandshoot]

Chuck Todd a few minutes ago....."Why is Washington making something that is so easy, difficult". Where is TLD's clown emoji when you need it.

That is his self portrait that he drew in crayons...

[seacoaster]

Leadership:

"No, I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a — a set of circumstances, and we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time."

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/81536336 ... -swine-flu

We’ll survive, but not because of anything this nincompoop did.

[cradleandshoot]

If I was still a cop I’d lock up Pence for performing unnatural acts in public. This team is lost. Mismanagement like even Putin could not have hoped for. Trump’s bragging our numbers are low. He has no frigging idea. He’s making Bush at Katrina look like Eisenhower at D Day

Would you also thump him with your nightstick?