MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:38 pm
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jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:57 pm
6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:54 pm
Bart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:49 pm
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:20 pm
Come on, youth, you're usually smarter than this.
Yes, tests enable identification and containment, thus reduced spread, thus fewer deaths.
The HUGE challenge we face is the prospect of an overwhelmed health system in which health workers are sick and quarantined, there aren't beds for strokes, cancer, etc.
All was true when 60 million americans caught H1 N1 and 12,000 people died in 2009. NO media noise. No noise from you.
Obama received purely positive press through it all.
Why keep bringing up the H1 N1 now? Its a complete strawman regarding what is happening right now. Was Obama treated differently than Trump? I don't know and I really don't care. I am not going to put the blame on anyone/person for where we are right now, it is not constructive and does no good But your H1 N1 comparison makes little sense from a non political point. Look at your numbers.
N1 H1 has a mortality rate close to 0.02%. Normal flu 0.1 percent.......COVID19 at best case is 0.5%. The devil is what is the denominator and to get an idea of what that could be lets look at the R0 number. For H1 N1 best I could find was 1.3. Currently the COVID19 is between 2 and 3 so this virus is both more communicable and deadly.
Politicize it all you want, that is your prerogative but this is not the flu. What is it? We do not know yet, and that is the biggest issue. In my opinion, and this is not directed to you per se, the biggest mistake is to continue to compare this thing to something it is not.
You can now flame away....................
Why are you folks so obtuse.
In 2009 H1 N1 was a health problem here.
The point I'm making is It was NEVER hyped like this.
It was more fatal than the flu where 30k people died annually without media noise. It was the most infectious new disease.
NO colleges closed. No sports STOPPED. The world went on
Why are you so obtuse? Multiple people have explained it to you, that N1H1 did not present the risk that COVID-19 does. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Nobody knew that at this point in 2009.
jhu72 did
Nope, the scientists did. Same point.
Midway through the H1 N1 pandemic
On 24 October 2009, U.S. President Obama declared swine flu a
national emergency
U.S. government officials were especially concerned about schools because the H1N1 flu virus appears to disproportionately affect young and school-age people, between six months and 24 years of age.[105] The H1N1 outbreak led to numerous precautionary school closures in some areas. Rather than closing schools, the CDC recommended that students and school workers with flu symptoms should stay home for either seven days total, or until 24 hours after symptoms subsided, whichever was longer.[106] The CDC also recommended that colleges should consider suspending fall 2009 classes if the virus began to cause severe illness in a significantly larger share of students than the previous spring. They also urged schools to suspend rules, such as penalties for late papers or missed classes or requirements for a doctor's note, to enforce "self-isolation" and prevent students from venturing out while ill;[107] schools were advised to set aside a room for people developing flu-like symptoms while they waited to go home and to have ill students or staff and those caring for them use face masks.[108]
In California, school districts and universities were on alert and worked with health officials to launch education campaigns. Many planned to stockpile medical supplies and discuss worst-case scenarios, including plans to provide lessons and meals for low-income children in case elementary and secondary schools closed.[109] University of California campuses stockpiled supplies, from paper masks and hand sanitizer to food and water.[109] To help prepare for contingencies, University of Maryland School of Medicine professor of pediatrics James C. King Jr. suggested that every county should create an "influenza action team" to be run by the local health department, parents and school administrators.[110] By 28 October 2009, about 600 schools in the United States had been temporarily closed, affecting over 126,000 students in 19 states
Fearing a worst-case scenario, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) developed updated guidance[112] and a video for employers to use as they developed plans to respond to the H1N1 outbreak.