Cornell 2020

[laxjuris]

Thanks for the replies. Good to see he's playing well. He's gone back to playing midfield which is interesting. I'm guessing that's due to his height? He was all American at attack in high school.

As RedIvy says, it’s really a function that we already had Piatelli and Teat on attack, and Lombardi is better suited for midfield than Long, who has been a great addition as the X attackman.

[CU77]

I think he’s playing midfield because of 3 great attack men

Yep. Cornell is overloaded with attackmen. They have HS all-american attackmen playing SSDM.

[RedIvy]

I don't want to get too far ahead of things in discussion, but my preliminary view is that Petrakis could be reasonably competitive against TD Ierlan this coming Saturday. If the Big Red put long poles on the wings and hustle for 50/50 ground balls, the face off situation could be neutralized. Also, if we can clear, limit turnovers (only 9 on Sunday), and create CTOs (8 on Sunday), we should be competitive.

On defense, I wonder if Adler is the one to cover Gaudet, or if it's someone taller. I'd argue for Adler, since his footwork can contain Gaudet. The biggest risk for this player as a scoring threat is his ability to capitalise on any defensive misalignment. Versus Michigan, he scored mostly in unsettled situations.

I hope your right but I’m not as confident about FO this weekend. TD has many FO skills that make him very unique unlike any other FOGO. If we can tie him up long enough to get our wings in we may get a few, hoping 30 - 35%. The good news is Yale’s offense is not as efficient as Penn State. So getting 1/3 of FO’s combined with better offense efficiency, lower turnovers, solid clearing and at least 50% on 50/50 ground balls not including Face Offs, I think we have a good chance. We also need to limit penalties and it would be perfect timing for a big game from Chase.

Hope I’m surprised, NYS wrestling champion against NYS runner up wrestling champion.

[faircornell]

I don't want to get too far ahead of things in discussion, but my preliminary view is that Petrakis could be reasonably competitive against TD Ierlan this coming Saturday. If the Big Red put long poles on the wings and hustle for 50/50 ground balls, the face off situation could be neutralized. Also, if we can clear, limit turnovers (only 9 on Sunday), and create CTOs (8 on Sunday), we should be competitive.

On defense, I wonder if Adler is the one to cover Gaudet, or if it's someone taller. I'd argue for Adler, since his footwork can contain Gaudet. The biggest risk for this player as a scoring threat is his ability to capitalise on any defensive misalignment. Versus Michigan, he scored mostly in unsettled situations.

I hope your right but I’m not as confident about FO this weekend. TD has many FO skills that make him very unique unlike any other FOGO. If we can tie him up long enough to get our wings in we may get a few, hoping 30 - 35%. The good news is Yale’s offense is not as efficient as Penn State. So getting 1/3 of FO’s combined with better offense efficiency, lower turnovers, solid clearing and at least 50% on 50/50 ground balls not including Face Offs, I think we have a good chance. We also need to limit penalties and it would be perfect timing for a big game from Chase.

Hope I’m surprised, NYS wrestling champion against NYS runner up wrestling champion.

I agree. I was hoping for 30ish percentage. Michigan won almost no face offs, and still was somewhat competitive with Yale, with a much less efficient offense. I also noted the wrestling background (at 182 pounds, he was not a small competitor).

[Ezra White]

Is he really 5'8" and 185 lbs?

Seeing how fleet of foot he was yesterday, I've got to think that's 185 lbs of muscle. Holy sheet!

[Chousnake]

Just watched the highlights again. The SSDM guarding Teat on the tying goal actually did a very good job. Teat didn't really beat him. He just got his hands free with the SSDM still right in front of him and shot around him with a perfectly placed shot. Cornell cleared out the right side for Teat. Fletcher stayed up high and Telesco and Piatelli stayed far to the left. Long and Donville were on the crease and any slide would have left either open for what appears to be a lay up shot. It was just a great play by a great player.

[faircornell]

Just watched the highlights again. The SSDM guarding Teat on the tying goal actually did a very good job. Teat didn't really beat him. He just got his hands free with the SSDM still right in front of him and shot around him with a perfectly placed shot. Cornell cleared out the right side for Teat. Fletcher stayed up high and Telesco and Piatelli stayed far to the left. Long and Donville were on the crease and any slide would have left either open for what appears to be a lay up shot. It was just a great play by a great player.

Well said, Chousnake. I know that I'm being a bit obsessive about this, but it was a really great play. It reminded me a bit of #10, in the (relative) patience under fire. There were one or two other times when Teat could have shot during his dodges, but waited for the "optimal" chance. Very few lacrosse players could have hung in there and taken that shot, and made those micro-judgements while being covered tightly.

[CU77]

Just watched the highlights again. The SSDM guarding Teat on the tying goal actually did a very good job. Teat didn't really beat him. He just got his hands free with the SSDM still right in front of him and shot around him with a perfectly placed shot. Cornell cleared out the right side for Teat. Fletcher stayed up high and Telesco and Piatelli stayed far to the left. Long and Donville were on the crease and any slide would have left either open for what appears to be a lay up shot. It was just a great play by a great player.

I agree, but IMO #47 should have slid down to help instead of sticking with Coyle (not Telesco, who was not on the field).

[faircornell]

Massey ranks Cornell #1 and Yale #2. I am by no means expert in what these rankings mean, but it's interesting.

[CU77]

Massey ranks Cornell #1 and Yale #2.

laf's laxpower model agrees:

http://www.laxbytes.com/2020/binmenstats/rating01.php

RPI has Yale #1 and Cornell #2:

http://www.laxbytes.com/2020/binmenstats/rpi01.php

Fanlax computer has Cornell #1 and Yale #3:

viewtopic.php?p=120369#p120369

[Matnum PI]

I'm a Massey fan. And he's not alone. Bunch of poll-ers had Cornell at #1 including FanLax Computer. FanLax Computer's algorithm is very different than Masseys (very different from every computer ranking system I've seen) but they frequently line-up with each other. Personally, I'm dumbfounded by how many people have SU at #1 and that Cornell isn't the obvious #1. From where I'm sitting, based on Ws and Ls and who those Ws and Ls are against, Cornell is #1.

[Matnum PI]

laf's laxpower model agrees

Army at 7?...

Massey has Cornell at #1 and then the rest also make sense.

[VeryRustyRed]

faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.

[faircornell]

faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.

Thanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.

[RedIvy]

faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.

Thanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.

While Yale may have an advantage at FO I think they have a more difficult time matching up and covering our offense then we do theirs. Not only 6 scoring threats on the field at once but the mid lines represent different types of threats.....

Key will be value possessions, avoid unnessary penalties especially unreleaseable types (that can create a run if they dominate at FO) and a good game from CI. Along with our normal high efficiency offense.

Will be close....

[RedIvy]

Hoping Ohio State can beat ND today..... build resume.....

[Typical Lax Dad]

faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.

Thanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.

Not to nitpick (Gaudet). Very good player. Should be a very good game. My next door neighbor played at Cornell and my college roommate coached there so I have a mild soft spot for Cornell.

[another fan]

faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.

Thanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.

While Yale may have an advantage at FO I think they have a more difficult time matching up and covering our offense then we do theirs. Not only 6 scoring threats on the field at once but the mid lines represent different types of threats.....

Key will be value possessions, avoid unnessary penalties especially unreleaseable types (that can create a run if they dominate at FO) and a good game from CI. Along with our normal high efficiency offense.

Will be close....

I agree that Doria will be on Gaudet; not sure whether Adler will be on Morrill or Brandau, as both have hurt us in the past. I think our real advantage is the threats presented by both our midfield lines. I believe Yale's midfields, including Tevlin, have yet to hit their stride-- hopefully they do not break out against us. Yale's D has matched up well against our attack, with Fake doing a nice job against Teat.

As discussed, TD is unique-- only Penn's Gallagher seems to be able to compete well with him. and while I do not expect him to pitch a shutout again against us, I am expecting only modest improvement over prior results. In the end, there is a good chance it will come down to play in goal. Hopefully, it's Chayse who comes up big.

[cornell76]

Lax game closed to spectators on Saturday, as are all other games. Apparently Ivy League policy.

[CU88]

Lax game closed to spectators on Saturday, as are all other games. Apparently Ivy League policy.

I bet JoeWillie finds a way in!