thatsmell wrote:holmes435 wrote:Results seem to be closer to the pollsters center line than their margins like in 2016.
Dems win house seats in many heavy R districts who overwhelmingly supported Trump. Control of the house seems imminent. Subpoenas and "accountability" will be interesting to follow. Will Trump reach across the aisle to get things done? My vote is that he will blame D's for his massive legislative failures that have already occurred as well as any failure to make meaningful legislation in the next two years. My vote is the D's will mostly obstruct as well, though they seem to be much more willing to compromise in recent history than the R's.
Beto comes closer than any D in recent history to unseating Cruz in heavy red Texas. Margin was thinner than most predicted. Cruz must have been sweating bullets. Coincidentally if Beto had kept mum about gun control he might have won. It's not a winning platform in any swing state, let alone Texas.
I'm not sure what Frito is smoking - maybe he's actually in Michigan where the devil's weed is now legal - congrats to them, hopefully federal legalization follows in the next decade. Keep the government out of my body.
A few governor seats have flipped, and Wisconsin is too close to call - this will reduce the R's massive head start in gerrymandering come the 2020 census, but they'll still have a huge advantage.
Main prediction for the next 2 years: More polarization, mostly driven by calls to far right talking points like the immigrant caravan.
The right’s dog whistles haven’t helped. But the left’s talking points have done their fair share to aid the polarization too. Far from a one-way street.
I think that's right, but one only has to read the immediately following burst from our resident troll to understand what's been happening, and will be happening over the next 2 years. The divisiveness is due to our recent "Black Muslim President".
While I'm a life-long R, I was rooting for some of the more charismatic D's to win, who did not, because I thought they represented positive messages very well. I was hoping that the message sent from the voters would be totally unambiguous. It was
not "totally unambiguous".
But 114 million people voted compared to 83 million in 2014, and they voted overwhelmingly for the party not in power. Randy/old salt's faith in the common man, as a fan pointed out with the Whitman quote, appears to have held. That's a very good thing.
Indeed. D's received 3 million more votes in House races than did R's, and, despite losing seats, D's won 10 million more votes for senate than did R's. Chew on that a bit. Big wins for Governorships, rebuilding 'blue wall'.
It also means that there is a check on the "authoritarian" solidification that I have expressed alarm could happen if the House didn't turn blue. Again, very good thing.
The result will be 'oversight', and a whole bunch of Administration departures. I'm sure discussion of all that, as well as implications for and of the Mueller investigation, will occupy these threads for many months.
It will be interesting to see if the wave of new D Representatives, many of whom are women and veterans and moderates, and many of whom said they would not support Pelosi for Speaker, will exercise their influence. Does she hold the Speakership for long? Do they insist on legislation that can pass, or do they pass legislation that exposes the divide sharply? I have my hunch that they'll tilt more moderate, consistent with the signals being sent this AM.
How does Trump respond to that? Make deals?
Can he compartmentalize, as Clinton did, the legislative/policy from the 'oversight'/investigation?
Or will he tack further right and go into full-on bunker-mode, with tweet storms on racial or other social divide issues and attacks on the free press and the institutions of the rule of law?