There are a whole lot of words and phrases that have perfectly innocent meanings, no slur involved. But as the first link I provided explained quite well, they ARE indeed utilized to be slurs...typically when used in conjunction with names of prominent Jews, Jewish organization, or when combined with other tropes...old salt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:22 pmWhat makes Bremmer a NeoCon ?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:07 pmSo what?old salt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:01 pmDo some work yourself.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:59 pmHe was just following orders???old salt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:55 pmWhat specifically qualifies Bremer as a neocon ? He was appointed to do a job, which he did. He did not take us into the war.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:50 pmYes, Bremer is/was definitely a neocon.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:37 pmNot sure Bremer would qualify as a neocon either. He entered the Foreign Service out of graduate school & rose to prominence working for Henry Kissinger, in & out of govt. Kissinger is a realist who still often differs with neocons. Bremer is lumped in with all the neocons he worked with in the Bush admin. Moynihan rejects the neocon label for himself, although he was good friends with the neocon founders. Was Will ever a liberal, or a conservative from the start of his writing ?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:18 am
Leaving out Bremer...and Will..Kirkpatrick...even Moynihan, all of whom were described as neoconservatives.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ge ... cons-11252
Prominently so, serving in the Bush Admin.
" globalism" is not antisemitic. You can't disqualify everything.
Listen, read the links I provided you thoroughly and then we can discuss the tropes.
Please do that work first.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.7249/mg847cc
As U.S. forces began their invasion of Iraq in late March of 2003, L. Paul Bremer received a phone call from Lewis (“Scooter”) Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff. “He asked whether I would be interested in coming back into the government to serve in Iraq,” recalled Bremer. “I couldn’t serve for long,” Bremer responded, “since I am busy running my company.” At the time, Bremer was chairman and chief executive officer of Marsh Crisis Consulting, a crisis management firm owned by the financial services firm Marsh & McLennan. Libby replied that “it wouldn’t be a full-time job
Bremer was a prominent neoconservative, ideologically and in practice. That he's a smart guy and was running a major company and making big bank has nothing to do with where he was ideologically.
Yes, please do the homework on the anti-semitic tropes.
I try to read the things you post, under the positive assumption that I can learn new things.
I typically find that you haven't offered them up idly...and I take the time to think about them and to respond in turn...often not in full agreement, but actually responsive.
I'm again trying to give you the benefit of the doubt too.
I read the refs you provided. I reject the the stigma of antisemitism applied to "globalism" or "new world order".
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dic ... /globalism
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-s ... orld-order
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA398504
The phrase new world order has been widely used on the political scene since first publicly coined by former president, George Bush. Although quickly adopted as the catch phrase of the 1990s, few people actually agree on what new world order really means. ...new world order, while elusive in definition, is most frequently used to describe aspects of the post Cold War international scenario...
So, when one uses Soros (or other Jews) and "globalist" to make a claim about "control", this is indeed well understood as a slur...indeed, it is actively used as such by white supremacist, White Nationalist groups that make their ideologies and bigotries quite clear. That's been a longstanding usage.
When one repeats these tropes, it may or may not be the intention of the user to be making an anti-semitic slur. But it feeds into that narrative. Which is why I asked and tried to provide a path for you to back off the trope and apologize. I assumed, as I try to do with most anyone, that you didn't intend it as the slur, but rather it was part of the literature you consume...and others intend to manipulate this way.