old salt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:06 pm
...& whoever thought it would get this far ? You do realize that those 4 partially conquered oblasts are now considered by the entire Russian government' & the Russian people, to be part of Russia again, like Crimea. It might be in violation of international law & upend the international order --- ok, what are we gonna do about it ? Do you wanna play the escalation game to wrest that territory back from Russia ? How far are you willing to go ?
You keep misrepresenting my position, as well as your own. You're basically complaining because we have a Dem POTUS, and like FoxNation, you're looking for something to whine about (Dems are bad), without bothering to give a DETAILED solution.
"Negotiate" isn't a detailed solution. You have to tell us EXACTLY what Biden (since you plainly want to blame him), Zelensky, and Putin need to do.
If you can't give a detailed solution? You're complaining just to complain.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:06 pm
Excuse me, but you've been telling me for how many years now that Putin would not & could not do the things he has done already.
As usual, you don't pay any attention at all to what others write. Or what YOU write, while we're at it.
What I said was, to summarize:
1. Russia' GDP is a joke, and Putin can't afford to do what he's trying to do. You and other military pundits still think it's 1980, when it was the Soviet GDP that we were talking about.
2. War and elite armaments are expensive. So expensive, that it was MONEY that broke the Soviet's back. Russian GDP is where it was 20 years ago. Putin SUCKS at management, and Russia is a 2nd rate nation as a result. How big is Russia? How big is Japan? And yet? Japan is KILLING the GDP of Russia. Why? Sh*t management from guys like Putin who would rather rob his fellow Russians blind than work smartly to raise the tide, so that both he and the average Russian can get richer. Stupid.
3. I used the metaphor: "why doesn't the US invade Canada?" to illustrate that in 2022, you can't invade a sovereign nation without serious economic consequences. How's the economy doing in Russia these days, OS? Not that you care, or bother looking, because you're too busy throwing rocks at the US and the EU.
4. I mocked the bases in Syria. Now how is it that I'm smart enough to know that Russian submarines are utterly pointless in 2022, but the guy who had top notch military training didn't get my point? How's that Syrian sub base workin' out for Putin, OS? Or his airbases in Syria?
Boy, he sure was playing chess when he blew a few billion for those pointless 1980's relics. Bet he wishes he spent that money on training his freaking officers better. Whoops.
5. I also told you that Ukraine's economy was a car crash, and all Putin was doing was annexing the worst economy in Europe, and adding to his economic problems. It be as as smart as the Governor of California annexing Mississippi.....now the Cali gov has a bunch of mouths to feed from his GDP in CA. And of course, all of this is worse because the lands he's trying to annex are piles of rubble in many places. Where the F do you think he's gonna get the money to fix that, OS?
So guess what? I've been right this entire time. I called it, soup to nuts. Putin isn't playing chess, and what's REALLY happening here is that you and FoxNation have egg on your face from years of making Putin seem like a brilliant chess master.........when it turns out that nope, he's a pointless bully from another era who doesn't know how to help the Russian people in the 21st century.
So what did he do? He pulled a temper tantrum.
In short: I NEVER said he wouldn't do this. What I said was: he'd be an idiot to invade. And I was 10000% right.