cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:32 amThe 64 thousand dollar question is how do you go about reevaluating the history of our nation in a factual and unbiased manner? To do so the folks doing the reevaluating would have to be neutral and unbiased and only interested in the facts.Good luck finding those individuals. If the people in charge of updating US history have their own preconceived notions and bias their mission is doomed from the start. I use the 1619 project as one example. It is a fascinating theory but when the author uses it as her basis to slam a country that was 150 plus years away from being born. There is a problem there in my opinion. How many school kids are being thought that the 1619 project is a factual look at history and not the authors opinion? It never ceases to amaze me how so many folks put the bright spotlight at what we have done wrong as Americans and completely overlook all that our nation has done right. I am all for teaching kids about the history of slavery in this world. The history of slavery in the world should be thought in the proper context, that would be from its earliest know start. It becomes very complex very quickly. I do know that it didn't begin in 1619 and I do know that the United States of America was the only nation in 1000s of years to actually do something to end the scourge of slavery. There is no doubt our nation has made many mistakes along the way. It is fair to say that by and large as a nation we have learned from our mistakes and keep moving forward how ever slowly our nation does so.a fan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:25 pmThat's fine.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:03 pm
Then the 1619 project needs to be discussed. It is an attempt by one author to rewrite Americ isan history. IMO the 1619 project deserves a thread all its own.
But what about the current standard, popular HS American History Textbooks? Are welcome going to fact check those, too? Check them for bias or glaring errors of omission?
Or do we start with the assumption that these textbooks are flawless, and ONLY look at the 1619 Project. If we hold all these books to the same standard? Sign me up.
But the clear place to start is to examine what books are ACTUALLY being used in American High Schools first. I think folks would be surprised by the problems in those books.
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One of the distinguishing characteristics of a typical leftist-liberal-Democrats, which I’ve never quite figured out, is they prefer (by their own admission) to see mostly the negatives of the country they live in. I’m not even saying that’s wrong; to each his own.
I suspect they might say (conversely) that Republicans-conservatives only want to see the sterilized happy version of American. And who knows, maybe that’s correct too
I’d simply say to my friends on the left that you risk being seen as a Debbie Downer if all you ever agitate for is a negative interpretation of what, for most, is simply the greatest country in the history of mankind. I could wax poetic every second how incredible this country is, it’s accomplishments, it’s selflessness, it’s resilience. Immigrants don’t come here for the negatives!
When I dive in, I don’t see the grand negative narrative that American liberals demand to be taught, sorry. You might prefer to take that route, but all I can say for sure is numbers never lie, they can confuse for a short time, but in the end, the numbers don’t lie. I do see hundreds of murders in Baltimore, but I mostly see a company like Under Armour built from scratch by a guy with a vision, now employing thousands of Americans, people who are happy and purposeful and becoming wealthier in spirit and net worth. So even in a liberal city like Baltimore, in spite of the crime and ruin, even from that wreck springs hope, by a person with passion, free enough to create a dream that benefits so many people (employees, shareholders, adjacent landowners, stakeholders…great job Kevin!!). That’s the story of America to me.