Progressive Ideology

[Peter Brown]

i dunno. i can't say with any certainty what she was thinking, i dont konw her and never met.

in fact, i've been told many times now that there are so many racists in this country. why not her. she's white after all...

(exactly)

[Peter Brown]

Obama is a good dude. And here, yet again, a sane Democrat (Obama) smashes the leftist idiocy pulling the Party so far left it's a parody version of 1984. Wake up people before Trump wins again in 2020. I don't hold out much hope though, based on comments here and from friends who apparently feel way more comfortable winking at insane leftist policies.

Obama is telling you to get a grip and stop the madness. And he's correct.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flaws.html

[HooDat]

It is clearly an Iron Cross

It is clearly a really bad tattoo

That leads me to believe that the tattoo was done when she was young and had little disposable income - perhaps even had spent the majority of her disposable income on drinks that night?

My guess is that she thoughts it was bad-a$$. She was feeling "tough" and little rebellious - not that she is a white supremacist.

The media loves this because ... sex

The politicians loves this because they are scum sucking hypocrites.

At least one employment plaintiff attorney should love this because $$$$$

[HooDat]

Obama is a good dude. And here, yet again, a sane Democrat (Obama) smashes the leftist idiocy pulling the Party so far left it's a parody version of 1984. Wake up people before Trump wins again in 2020. I don't hold out much hope though, based on comments here and from friends who apparently feel way more comfortable winking at insane leftist policies.

Obama is telling you to get a grip and stop the madness. And he's correct.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flaws.html

Indeed. Obama seems to be settling into the role of ex-President. I don't think he found letting go of the power and influence to be easy.

[MDlaxfan76]

i dunno. i can't say with any certainty what she was thinking, i dont konw her and never met.

in fact, i've been told many times now that there are so many racists in this country. why not her. she's white after all...

(exactly)

nah, that's the problem with the 'faux outrage' crowd on the right, everything exaggerated to the extreme.
Very hypocritical.

Yes, PB, I'd noted as well that Obama had taken the hyper "woke" crowd to task for their demands for 'purity'.
But that crowd is way, way smaller than you seem to think. Moreover, they do at least have an intent of making the world a better place...they just get too demanding of perfection. Obama has particular weight on the left as he's well to the left of some of the party, so particularly good for him to admonish the hyper-crew.

However, I assume you guys really do understand that, for instance, a 'white' Steve King is evaluated not on the basis of his being 'white' but rather on what he has said and supported.

It's 'faux outrage' to try to suggest that the left conflates 'white' with 'racist'. Most don't.

Just as it's dumb for the hyper-woke crowd to assume all white folks are equivalently impaired in their understanding of racism and their relative perspective on such.

Extremes are the problem; just don't play it in reverse.

[Peter Brown]

i dunno. i can't say with any certainty what she was thinking, i dont konw her and never met.

in fact, i've been told many times now that there are so many racists in this country. why not her. she's white after all...

(exactly)

nah, that's the problem with the 'faux outrage' crowd on the right, everything exaggerated to the extreme.
Very hypocritical.

Yes, PB, I'd noted as well that Obama had taken the hyper "woke" crowd to task for their demands for 'purity'.
But that crowd is way, way smaller than you seem to think. Moreover, they do at least have an intent of making the world a better place...they just get too demanding of perfection. Obama has particular weight on the left as he's well to the left of some of the party, so particularly good for him to admonish the hyper-crew.

However, I assume you guys really do understand that, for instance, a 'white' Steve King is evaluated not on the basis of his being 'white' but rather on what he has said and supported.

It's 'faux outrage' to try to suggest that the left conflates 'white' with 'racist'. Most don't.

Just as it's dumb for the hyper-woke crowd to assume all white folks are equivalently impaired in their understanding of racism and their relative perspective on such.

Extremes are the problem; just don't play it in reverse.

You need to hang out at a Democratic fundraiser. If you believe what you write, you're in for a surprise.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/dem ... alism.aspx

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

Obama is a good dude. And here, yet again, a sane Democrat (Obama) smashes the leftist idiocy pulling the Party so far left it's a parody version of 1984. Wake up people before Trump wins again in 2020. I don't hold out much hope though, based on comments here and from friends who apparently feel way more comfortable winking at insane leftist policies.

Obama is telling you to get a grip and stop the madness. And he's correct.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flaws.html

Indeed. Obama seems to be settling into the role of ex-President. I don't think he found letting go of the power and influence to be easy.

very presidential.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

speaking of the reverse... OK

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... roup-says/

[foreverlax]

Obama is a good dude. And here, yet again, a sane Democrat (Obama) smashes the leftist idiocy pulling the Party so far left it's a parody version of 1984. Wake up people before Trump wins again in 2020. I don't hold out much hope though, based on comments here and from friends who apparently feel way more comfortable winking at insane leftist policies.

Obama is telling you to get a grip and stop the madness. And he's correct.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flaws.html

Indeed. Obama seems to be settling into the role of ex-President. I don't think he found letting go of the power and influence to be easy.

very presidential.

Coherence is refreshing.

[DMac]

The whole iron cross discussion is pretty ridiculous, IMO, just another twisted and sensationalized story. Young girl gets an iron cross tattoo and the media turns that into her being a Nazi and racist. Seriously doubt there's an iota of truth to that. Tattoos are hugely popular and she, like millions of others, got one that she thought was kind of cool. Nothing more to the story, folks.
Her sex life is another story the media can prey upon her with, a nice salacious and titillating story they can turn her into a little slut with. The girl has a sexual appetite and has had more than one partner, how sinful!!! Meanwhile, what kind of salacious little stories could we come up with if the sex lives of those destroying this gal were disclosed (as well as the stories of those condemning her)?
I don't know this girl from a hill of beans but she's being treated very unfairly here. Porn revenge is some low life BS but unfortunately the media sees it as a gold mine. The headlines are far more important to them than anyone's life. Feel bad for this gal (has nothing to do with politics, Ds or Rs).

[runrussellrun]

Obama is a good dude. And here, yet again, a sane Democrat (Obama) smashes the leftist idiocy pulling the Party so far left it's a parody version of 1984. Wake up people before Trump wins again in 2020. I don't hold out much hope though, based on comments here and from friends who apparently feel way more comfortable winking at insane leftist policies.

Obama is telling you to get a grip and stop the madness. And he's correct.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flaws.html

Indeed. Obama seems to be settling into the role of ex-President. I don't think he found letting go of the power and influence to be easy.

or just shilling and sowing the Hillaryous Clinton centrist will stop the madness ONLY.

It's time.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

The whole iron cross discussion is pretty ridiculous, IMO, just another twisted and sensationalized story. Young girl gets an iron cross tattoo and the media turns that into her being a Nazi and racist. Seriously doubt there's an iota of truth to that. Tattoos are hugely popular and she, like millions of others, got one that she thought was kind of cool. Nothing more to the story, folks.
Her sex life is another story the media can prey upon her with, a nice salacious and titillating story they can turn her into a little slut with. The girl has a sexual appetite and has had more than one partner, how sinful!!! Meanwhile, what kind of salacious little stories could we come up with if the sex lives of those destroying this gal were disclosed (as well as the stories of those condemning her)?
I don't know this girl from a hill of beans but she's being treated very unfairly here. Porn revenge is some low life BS but unfortunately the media sees it as a gold mine. The headlines are far more important to them than anyone's life. Feel bad for this gal (has nothing to do with politics, Ds or Rs).

agreed

[MDlaxfan76]

i dunno. i can't say with any certainty what she was thinking, i dont konw her and never met.

in fact, i've been told many times now that there are so many racists in this country. why not her. she's white after all...

(exactly)

nah, that's the problem with the 'faux outrage' crowd on the right, everything exaggerated to the extreme.
Very hypocritical.

Yes, PB, I'd noted as well that Obama had taken the hyper "woke" crowd to task for their demands for 'purity'.
But that crowd is way, way smaller than you seem to think. Moreover, they do at least have an intent of making the world a better place...they just get too demanding of perfection. Obama has particular weight on the left as he's well to the left of some of the party, so particularly good for him to admonish the hyper-crew.

However, I assume you guys really do understand that, for instance, a 'white' Steve King is evaluated not on the basis of his being 'white' but rather on what he has said and supported.

It's 'faux outrage' to try to suggest that the left conflates 'white' with 'racist'. Most don't.

Just as it's dumb for the hyper-woke crowd to assume all white folks are equivalently impaired in their understanding of racism and their relative perspective on such.

Extremes are the problem; just don't play it in reverse.

You need to hang out at a Democratic fundraiser. If you believe what you write, you're in for a surprise.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/dem ... alism.aspx

Is that where you hang out??

We actually threw a fundraiser in 2018 for a local female Dem candidate for a district office in Annapolis. Lots of progressive and partisan talk, more than my comfort zone, but the integrity and competence factor was very high. Problem-solver. She had to bow out mid-campaign due to a serious illness in her family, but she was definitely worth supporting.

[Peter Brown]

The whole iron cross discussion is pretty ridiculous, IMO, just another twisted and sensationalized story. Young girl gets an iron cross tattoo and the media turns that into her being a Nazi and racist. Seriously doubt there's an iota of truth to that. Tattoos are hugely popular and she, like millions of others, got one that she thought was kind of cool. Nothing more to the story, folks.
Her sex life is another story the media can prey upon her with, a nice salacious and titillating story they can turn her into a little slut with. The girl has a sexual appetite and has had more than one partner, how sinful!!! Meanwhile, what kind of salacious little stories could we come up with if the sex lives of those destroying this gal were disclosed (as well as the stories of those condemning her)?
I don't know this girl from a hill of beans but she's being treated very unfairly here. Porn revenge is some low life BS but unfortunately the media sees it as a gold mine. The headlines are far more important to them than anyone's life. Feel bad for this gal (has nothing to do with politics, Ds or Rs).

The discussion is not about the presence of an iron cross tattoo, the discussion is how would Democrats react had this been on Nikki Haley's body (or any Republican for that matter). Do you think there would be a tar-and-feather outrage media mob excoriating this racist sexist bigoted Republican? Ya think!

Literally no one cares that Katie has an iron cross tattoo; what we care about is consistent outrage.

[a fan]

The discussion is not about the presence of an iron cross tattoo, the discussion is how would Democrats react had this been on Nikki Haley's body (or any Republican for that matter). Do you think there would be a tar-and-feather outrage media mob excoriating this racist sexist bigoted Republican? Ya think!

So you're ginning up fake outrage over what you think Dems would do over a tattoo? That doesn't exist?

And then patting yourself on the back for what you imagine the Dems might do?

[a fan]

Literally no one cares that Katie has an iron cross tattoo; what we care about is consistent outrage.

We're getting lectured by the guy who thinks we complain "too much" about what our President actually does....and you're worried about how Dems would react to an imaginary tattoo that Haley doesn't have.

Boy. Quite the happy little world you've made for yourself to live in.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

The whole iron cross discussion is pretty ridiculous, IMO, just another twisted and sensationalized story. Young girl gets an iron cross tattoo and the media turns that into her being a Nazi and racist. Seriously doubt there's an iota of truth to that. Tattoos are hugely popular and she, like millions of others, got one that she thought was kind of cool. Nothing more to the story, folks.
Her sex life is another story the media can prey upon her with, a nice salacious and titillating story they can turn her into a little slut with. The girl has a sexual appetite and has had more than one partner, how sinful!!! Meanwhile, what kind of salacious little stories could we come up with if the sex lives of those destroying this gal were disclosed (as well as the stories of those condemning her)?
I don't know this girl from a hill of beans but she's being treated very unfairly here. Porn revenge is some low life BS but unfortunately the media sees it as a gold mine. The headlines are far more important to them than anyone's life. Feel bad for this gal (has nothing to do with politics, Ds or Rs).

The discussion is not about the presence of an iron cross tattoo, the discussion is how would Democrats react had this been on Nikki Haley's body (or any Republican for that matter). Do you think there would be a tar-and-feather outrage media mob excoriating this racist sexist bigoted Republican? Ya think!

Literally no one cares that Katie has an iron cross tattoo; what we care about is consistent outrage.

that's whataboutism and it's not welcome here

[Peter Brown]

The discussion is not about the presence of an iron cross tattoo, the discussion is how would Democrats react had this been on Nikki Haley's body (or any Republican for that matter). Do you think there would be a tar-and-feather outrage media mob excoriating this racist sexist bigoted Republican? Ya think!

So you're ginning up fake outrage over what you think Dems would do over a tattoo? That doesn't exist?

And then patting yourself on the back for what you imagine the Dems might do?

"imagine what the Dems would do?"...



The same crowd that crushed a Catholic kid for wearing a MAGA hat? Do we really need to imagine the reaction? The media world would hyperventilate for weeks on end; yearbook pages of her high school boyfriends would be parsed for racist symbols; Rachel Maddow would do nightly specials on the secretive Indian-American racist families of Bamberg SC!

C'mon a fan...once in a blue moon it's okay to admit your sides' weakness!

[Peter Brown]

The whole iron cross discussion is pretty ridiculous, IMO, just another twisted and sensationalized story. Young girl gets an iron cross tattoo and the media turns that into her being a Nazi and racist. Seriously doubt there's an iota of truth to that. Tattoos are hugely popular and she, like millions of others, got one that she thought was kind of cool. Nothing more to the story, folks.
Her sex life is another story the media can prey upon her with, a nice salacious and titillating story they can turn her into a little slut with. The girl has a sexual appetite and has had more than one partner, how sinful!!! Meanwhile, what kind of salacious little stories could we come up with if the sex lives of those destroying this gal were disclosed (as well as the stories of those condemning her)?
I don't know this girl from a hill of beans but she's being treated very unfairly here. Porn revenge is some low life BS but unfortunately the media sees it as a gold mine. The headlines are far more important to them than anyone's life. Feel bad for this gal (has nothing to do with politics, Ds or Rs).

The discussion is not about the presence of an iron cross tattoo, the discussion is how would Democrats react had this been on Nikki Haley's body (or any Republican for that matter). Do you think there would be a tar-and-feather outrage media mob excoriating this racist sexist bigoted Republican? Ya think!

Literally no one cares that Katie has an iron cross tattoo; what we care about is consistent outrage.

that's whataboutism and it's not welcome here

My bad.

[old salt]

Interesting set of “coincidences” associated with the Katie Hill photos. Last summer George Papadopoulos (yes, that one) set up an exploratory committee with the IRS.

Day before the pictures come out he tweets

California’s 25th congressional district looks like it’s for the taking

Now he says he is running for that seat.

I suspect those coincidences need a bit of scrutiny...

.. ...I think you may overestimate Papadop's competence & trade craft.