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It's not even close to an Iron Cross, you're blind. It's a *hitty photo of a picture that could be a bunch of crap.


No, of course not. You know, for a guy who's ripping on us for hysteria over stupid stuff, you sure do bring up a lot of stupid stuff.

Below is the Iron Cross. Notice the pattern is a black cross, outlined by a black cross, that it outlined again by a black cross?

What they are showing is a crappy, blurry photo of "something". Sorry mate, not the same thing.

Now if you ask Hill and she says "yep, that's an Iron Cross".....now that's serious.


Anyone bother asking her? Or is it your idea is that we're supposed to treat a blurry tabloid photo as the gospel truth?

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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:50 pm
a fan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:47 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:18 pm Excepting the nazi female area tat, ie: The Iron Cross, this would be my kinda congresswoman. :shock:

Will our friends here on the left cancel the Nazi identifier in their midst?!? Or just more Orange Man Bad? I say this as an ex-Dem.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... NAKED.html
:lol: That's a Nazi identifier? Where is the swastika that is pictured in the DailyMail drawing?

Whoops. It's not there. Any other "stories" you'd like to share from the Daily Mail? Inside info. on Area 51, perhaps? Elvis is still here? Figure of Jeezus in a potato chip?

Whatcha talking 'bout, Willis?!?!? That's an Iron Cross. All the good skinheads have 'em.

Perchance if this had been a Republican congresswoman, would you be looking to ignore the obvious, or would you be calling for a summary execution? :lol:
Fabulous. Could you provide a link to her other skinhead content. I bet it's wild!
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Amazing analysis, well worth your time. From Kira Davis:

You assault ppl w/red hats as if it's justice, you wanna mutilate the healthy bodies of boys who decided they like the color pink one day, erase womanhood on the altar of the trans trend...

You want to ban certain words and make other words mandatory, effectively killing the first amendment. You want us to believe the world is ending in 12..no, 10 yrs...no, 18 months bc of Americans doing things like living and breathing every day..

You want drag queens at school story hour but want to ban God at school. You endorse assaulting journalists whom you think are covering the "wrong" stories, you harass non-liberal public figures when they're at the store or out with their families...

You want to be able to abort a baby right up until the moment it exits the birth canal AND you want us to call it "compassion".You want the rest of America to look to CA as an example of the progressive paradise promised if those dumb hicks in the middle would get on board

You want to cancel ppl's livelihoods&social status for tweets they sent out at 16yo, you want to cancel ANYONE who doesn't toe the liberal line an anything from education to the border. So look at this thread and tell me...why on EARTH would we vote for your side in 2020?

Look at this thread and ask yourselves, what exactly are you offering America in 2020 that would in any way inspire them to dump Trump and vote Dem? What is it about anything the left is offering that would make any of us feel safe with you in charge?

There are a lot of voters out there who don't like Trump but are terrified by what they see coming out of left-wing America right now. They'll either stay home or vote Trump rather than risk the dystopian future the Left is offering right now.
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Lots of hyperbole there, not much substance. But that's what the right has won on, so why change?
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holmes435 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:59 pm Lots of hyperbole there, not much substance. But that's what the right has won on, so why change?
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:35 pm Amazing analysis, well worth your time. From Kira Davis:

You assault ppl w/red hats as if it's justice, you wanna mutilate the healthy bodies of boys who decided they like the color pink one day, erase womanhood on the altar of the trans trend...

You want to ban certain words and make other words mandatory, effectively killing the first amendment. You want us to believe the world is ending in 12..no, 10 yrs...no, 18 months bc of Americans doing things like living and breathing every day..

You want drag queens at school story hour but want to ban God at school. You endorse assaulting journalists whom you think are covering the "wrong" stories, you harass non-liberal public figures when they're at the store or out with their families...

You want to be able to abort a baby right up until the moment it exits the birth canal AND you want us to call it "compassion".You want the rest of America to look to CA as an example of the progressive paradise promised if those dumb hicks in the middle would get on board

You want to cancel ppl's livelihoods&social status for tweets they sent out at 16yo, you want to cancel ANYONE who doesn't toe the liberal line an anything from education to the border. So look at this thread and tell me...why on EARTH would we vote for your side in 2020?

Look at this thread and ask yourselves, what exactly are you offering America in 2020 that would in any way inspire them to dump Trump and vote Dem? What is it about anything the left is offering that would make any of us feel safe with you in charge?

There are a lot of voters out there who don't like Trump but are terrified by what they see coming out of left-wing America right now. They'll either stay home or vote Trump rather than risk the dystopian future the Left is offering right now.
If you believe this, why are you voting for Biden?
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a fan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:00 pm It's not even close to an Iron Cross, you're blind. It's a *hitty photo of a picture that could be a bunch of dump.


No, of course not. You know, for a guy who's ripping on us for hysteria over stupid stuff, you sure do bring up a lot of stupid stuff.

Below is the Iron Cross. Notice the pattern is a black cross, outlined by a black cross, that it outlined again by a black cross?

What they are showing is a crappy, blurry photo of "something". Sorry mate, not the same thing.

Now if you ask Hill and she says "yep, that's an Iron Cross".....now that's serious.


Anyone bother asking her? Or is it your idea is that we're supposed to treat a blurry tabloid photo as the gospel truth?


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If her tattoo is actually supposed to an Iron Cross (which is possible for a wild child, rebellious type), she overpaid.
It's a really poor rendering of an Iron Cross, if that's what it's actually supposed to be.

It almost looks as much like a 4-leaf clover.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:16 pm
a fan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:00 pm It's not even close to an Iron Cross, you're blind. It's a *hitty photo of a picture that could be a bunch of dump.


No, of course not. You know, for a guy who's ripping on us for hysteria over stupid stuff, you sure do bring up a lot of stupid stuff.

Below is the Iron Cross. Notice the pattern is a black cross, outlined by a black cross, that it outlined again by a black cross?

What they are showing is a crappy, blurry photo of "something". Sorry mate, not the same thing.

Now if you ask Hill and she says "yep, that's an Iron Cross".....now that's serious.


Anyone bother asking her? Or is it your idea is that we're supposed to treat a blurry tabloid photo as the gospel truth?


1200px-German_Cross.svg.png
If her tattoo is actually supposed to an Iron Cross (which is possible for a wild child, rebellious type), she overpaid.
It's a really poor rendering of an Iron Cross, if that's what it's actually supposed to be.

It almost looks as much like a 4-leaf clover.
:lol:
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a fan wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:05 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:35 pm Amazing analysis, well worth your time. From Kira Davis:

You assault ppl w/red hats as if it's justice, you wanna mutilate the healthy bodies of boys who decided they like the color pink one day, erase womanhood on the altar of the trans trend...

You want to ban certain words and make other words mandatory, effectively killing the first amendment. You want us to believe the world is ending in 12..no, 10 yrs...no, 18 months bc of Americans doing things like living and breathing every day..

You want drag queens at school story hour but want to ban God at school. You endorse assaulting journalists whom you think are covering the "wrong" stories, you harass non-liberal public figures when they're at the store or out with their families...

You want to be able to abort a baby right up until the moment it exits the birth canal AND you want us to call it "compassion".You want the rest of America to look to CA as an example of the progressive paradise promised if those dumb hicks in the middle would get on board

You want to cancel ppl's livelihoods&social status for tweets they sent out at 16yo, you want to cancel ANYONE who doesn't toe the liberal line an anything from education to the border. So look at this thread and tell me...why on EARTH would we vote for your side in 2020?

Look at this thread and ask yourselves, what exactly are you offering America in 2020 that would in any way inspire them to dump Trump and vote Dem? What is it about anything the left is offering that would make any of us feel safe with you in charge?

There are a lot of voters out there who don't like Trump but are terrified by what they see coming out of left-wing America right now. They'll either stay home or vote Trump rather than risk the dystopian future the Left is offering right now.
If you believe this, why are you voting for Biden?


Because Biden is not that. Warren is.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:16 pm
a fan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:00 pm It's not even close to an Iron Cross, you're blind. It's a *hitty photo of a picture that could be a bunch of dump.


No, of course not. You know, for a guy who's ripping on us for hysteria over stupid stuff, you sure do bring up a lot of stupid stuff.

Below is the Iron Cross. Notice the pattern is a black cross, outlined by a black cross, that it outlined again by a black cross?

What they are showing is a crappy, blurry photo of "something". Sorry mate, not the same thing.

Now if you ask Hill and she says "yep, that's an Iron Cross".....now that's serious.


Anyone bother asking her? Or is it your idea is that we're supposed to treat a blurry tabloid photo as the gospel truth?


1200px-German_Cross.svg.png
If her tattoo is actually supposed to an Iron Cross (which is possible for a wild child, rebellious type), she overpaid.
It's a really poor rendering of an Iron Cross, if that's what it's actually supposed to be.

It almost looks as much like a 4-leaf clover.
I actually had the same thought.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:02 pm Because Biden is not that. Warren is.
So you give the left grief for hysteria and hyperbole over Trump....

....and you decide the answer to that is hysteria and hyperbole of your own?

"Hold my beer", is your answer to the left?
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a fan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:00 pm It's not even close to an Iron Cross, you're blind. It's a *hitty photo of a picture that could be a bunch of dump.


No, of course not. You know, for a guy who's ripping on us for hysteria over stupid stuff, you sure do bring up a lot of stupid stuff.

Below is the Iron Cross. Notice the pattern is a black cross, outlined by a black cross, that it outlined again by a black cross?

What they are showing is a crappy, blurry photo of "something". Sorry mate, not the same thing.

Now if you ask Hill and she says "yep, that's an Iron Cross".....now that's serious.


Anyone bother asking her? Or is it your idea is that we're supposed to treat a blurry tabloid photo as the gospel truth?
Oh it sure looks like an Iron Cross, just reversed, white on black. (a pretty lousy looking tat actually). Without a Swastika, it means nothing Nazi IMO.

Also, if someone hasn't mentioned, the Iron Cross predates anything Nazi.
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a fan wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:21 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:02 pm Because Biden is not that. Warren is.
So you give the left grief for hysteria and hyperbole over Trump....

....and you decide the answer to that is hysteria and hyperbole of your own?

"Hold my beer", is your answer to the left?


Those facts that Kira lays out are 'hysteria and hyperbole'? hmmmmmm.....
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:16 pm
a fan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:00 pm It's not even close to an Iron Cross, you're blind. It's a *hitty photo of a picture that could be a bunch of dump.


No, of course not. You know, for a guy who's ripping on us for hysteria over stupid stuff, you sure do bring up a lot of stupid stuff.

Below is the Iron Cross. Notice the pattern is a black cross, outlined by a black cross, that it outlined again by a black cross?

What they are showing is a crappy, blurry photo of "something". Sorry mate, not the same thing.

Now if you ask Hill and she says "yep, that's an Iron Cross".....now that's serious.


Anyone bother asking her? Or is it your idea is that we're supposed to treat a blurry tabloid photo as the gospel truth?


1200px-German_Cross.svg.png
If her tattoo is actually supposed to an Iron Cross (which is possible for a wild child, rebellious type), she overpaid.
It's a really poor rendering of an Iron Cross, if that's what it's actually supposed to be.

It almost looks as much like a 4-leaf clover.
I actually had the same thought.


Of course you do.

If Trump has done nothing else for this country, his very presence (the thought of a guy this uncouth as POTUS!!) has exposed many people for who they truly are. Or at least who they temporarily are...which I hope is the case.

Would MDLax, Tech37, and TLD take the most generous (and flatly absurd) analysis of an Iron Cross tattoo on, say, Nikki Haley, and claim it actually is a 4-leaf clover"? We know the answer; of course not!

Partisan blinders are an incredibly fascinating study. Democrats are ironically the most guilty of partisan blinders and most prone to excessive emotion, and yet, they are the first and always the loudest to claim otherwise! That raises the study of projectionism, which is an entirely different topic so I won't go there.

I will leave you with another anecdote for those interested, and those not interested. I once attended a very fancy and intimate fundraiser for a man whom I think the world of, Evan Bayh; this event was held in a rather palatial apartment in NYC. Evan was a Senator from Indiana testing the presidential waters. Just a superb human, too good for politics Imo. Evan is a Democrat but of the Joe Biden ilk: centrist, calm, measured, thoughtful.

At this fundraiser where I was the lowest form of wealth by factors of 100, Evan was verbally accosted by 3 very well-known (you would know all three by name if you have any business dealings in life) businesspersons from the world of media and finance. These 3 'gentlemen' were unhinged in their vitriol at Evan, crazily yelling at him (a Senator!) in front of 30 other Democratic donors, that he wasn't 'aggressive enough', that he wasn't 'man enough' to be a leader of the Democrats. He didn't have the 'stones to go after Republicans' the way these three demanded. Foaming at the mouth does not do this justice.

They wanted to embarrass a sitting US Senator to his face. That was the whole purpose of their act. It was the strangest performance art I have ever been privy to. Thankfully, my good friend who had taken me told them to all shut the eff up....then all heck broke loose. Much longer story there. I have never been so embarrassed for a group of supposedly accomplished human beings in my life.

That was the beginning of my slow departure from the Democratic Party. I saw a weirdness to the supposedly vaunted upper class of the Party (I checked out totally with Hillary Clinton); who would yell at a sitting US Senator?!?! In front of others?!?!?

And so, when Kira writes about how Democrats are now in the crazy-bird seat, I nod my head. When you can't serve a meal to Sarah Sanders, regardless whether you hate her or not, you've lost all control. In essence, you equate Sarah Sanders, a Presidential Press Secretary, with a murderer. Think on how crazy that is. Think then how crazy you sound when you lie about Katie's iron cross as a 4-leaf clover. And yet I'm the one who could not care less if it is! (and of course it is; and of course we have zero idea what she was thinking; she could be a raging anti-semite, or a drunk girl killing time at 3 am in West Hollywood). But, your instinct here is to go stupid and claim 'everyone's eyes are lying, folks...nothing to see'. You are now the crazy ones. I doubt seriously you can see that. :roll:
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"Ban certain words".

Oh yeah. That's a total fact right there. What part of Warren's platform will you find that?

Warren assault someone with a red hat?

Erase womanhood?

Oh yeah, no hyperbole about who's running for POTUS and what they are running on. Funny part is, you can trot right over to Warren's page and find a ton of stuff that's easy to make fun of. Instead? You cite some website breathlessly telling you that the Dems drown puppies in their spare time.

You're part of FoxNation, and bleat out their propaganda like fact...and, of course, that comes with the hypocrisy. If you complain about socialism, it's right before you take my money for socialism that benefits you. If you complain about hysteria over what Trump says, five minutes later, you'll post some cr*p that has nothing to do with Warren (?), and tell me that it's a fact that she wants to (snicker) "ban words".

How many more years do we have to put up with this silliness? Or is this a permanent thing with millions of Americans now?
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:06 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:16 pm
a fan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:00 pm It's not even close to an Iron Cross, you're blind. It's a *hitty photo of a picture that could be a bunch of dump.


No, of course not. You know, for a guy who's ripping on us for hysteria over stupid stuff, you sure do bring up a lot of stupid stuff.

Below is the Iron Cross. Notice the pattern is a black cross, outlined by a black cross, that it outlined again by a black cross?

What they are showing is a crappy, blurry photo of "something". Sorry mate, not the same thing.

Now if you ask Hill and she says "yep, that's an Iron Cross".....now that's serious.


Anyone bother asking her? Or is it your idea is that we're supposed to treat a blurry tabloid photo as the gospel truth?


1200px-German_Cross.svg.png
If her tattoo is actually supposed to an Iron Cross (which is possible for a wild child, rebellious type), she overpaid.
It's a really poor rendering of an Iron Cross, if that's what it's actually supposed to be.

It almost looks as much like a 4-leaf clover.
I actually had the same thought.


Of course you do.

If Trump has done nothing else for this country, his very presence (the thought of a guy this uncouth as POTUS!!) has exposed many people for who they truly are. Or at least who they temporarily are...which I hope is the case.

Would MDLax, Tech37, and TLD take the most generous (and flatly absurd) analysis of an Iron Cross tattoo on, say, Nikki Haley, and claim it actually is a 4-leaf clover"? We know the answer; of course not! It's interesting to dwell on the why rather than the if they would.

Partisan blinders are an incredibly fascinating study. Democrats are ironically the most guilty of partisan blinders and most prone to excessive emotion, and yet, they are the first and always the loudest to claim otherwise! That raises the study of projectionism, which is an entirely different topic so I won't go there.

I will leave you with another anecdote for those interested, and those not interested. I once attended a very fancy and intimate fundraiser for a man whom I think the world of, Evan Bayh; this event was held in a rather palatial apartment in NYC. Evan was a Senator from Indiana testing the presidential waters. Just a superb human, too good for politics Imo. Evan is a Democrat but of the Joe Biden ilk: centrist, calm, measured, thoughtful.

At this fundraiser where I was the lowest form of wealth by factors of 100, Evan was verbally accosted by 3 very well-known (you would know all three by name if you have any business dealings in life) businesspersons from the world of media and finance. These 3 'gentlemen' were unhinged in their vitriol at Evan, crazily yelling at him (a Senator!) in front of 30 other Democratic donors, that he wasn't 'aggressive enough', that he wasn't 'man enough' to be a leader of the Democrats. He didn't have the 'stones to go after Republicans' the way these three demanded. Foaming at the mouth does not do this justice.

They wanted to embarrass a sitting US Senator to his face. That was the whole purpose of their act. It was the strangest performance art I have ever been privy to. Thankfully, my good friend who had taken me told them to all shut the eff up....then all heck broke loose. Much longer story there. I have never been so embarrassed for a group of supposedly accomplished human beings in my life.

That was the beginning of my slow departure from the Democratic Party. I saw a weirdness to the supposedly vaunted upper class of the Party (I checked out totally with Hillary Clinton); who would yell at a sitting US Senator?!?! In front of others?!?!?

And so, when Kira writes about how Democrats are now in the crazy-bird seat, I nod my head. When you can't serve a meal to Sarah Sanders, regardless whether you hate her or not, you've lost all control. In essence, you equate Sarah Sanders, a Presidential Press Secretary, with a murderer. Think on how crazy that is. Think then how crazy you sound when you lie about Katie's iron cross as a 4-leaf clover. And yet I'm the one who could not care less if it is! (and of course it is; and of course we have zero idea what she was thinking; she could be a raging anti-semite, or a drunk girl killing time at 3 am in West Hollywood). But, your instinct here is to go stupid and claim 'everyone's eyes are lying, folks...nothing to see'. You are now the crazy ones. I doubt seriously you can see that. :roll:
I said I had the same thought. I concluded it was probably a biker’s Cross....bye Felicia
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a fan wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:07 pm "Ban certain words".

Oh yeah. That's a total fact right there. What part of Warren's platform will you find that?

Warren assault someone with a red hat?

Erase womanhood?

Oh yeah, no hyperbole about who's running for POTUS and what they are running on. Funny part is, you can trot right over to Warren's page and find a ton of stuff that's easy to make fun of. Instead? You cite some website breathlessly telling you that the Dems drown puppies in their spare time.

You're part of FoxNation, and bleat out their propaganda like fact...and, of course, that comes with the hypocrisy. If you complain about socialism, it's right before you take my money for socialism that benefits you. If you complain about hysteria over what Trump says, five minutes later, you'll post some cr*p that has nothing to do with Warren (?), and tell me that it's a fact that she wants to (snicker) "ban words".

How many more years do we have to put up with this silliness? Or is this a permanent thing with millions of Americans now?


I bet of everyone on this board I have seen Fox less than any. I watch CNN if I watch news...mostly I watch ESPN. For sure I have never seen one episode of Sean Hannity.

I do watch debates. Did you know that Elizabeth Warren applauded a nine-year-old child who claims to be transgender during last week's CNN Equality Town Hall and suggested that the child assist her with choosing her education secretary, should she be elected?
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:06 pm Think then how crazy you sound when you lie about Katie's iron cross as a 4-leaf clover.
Oh totally. We should totally think that a *hitty photo of a *hitty tattoo printed in a British tabloid is an Iron Cross.

And if we don't agree with you, we're nuts.

Sell it somewhere else.
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