Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

[MDlaxfan76]

Rahm agrees..... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0eDwFfnT_C ... _copy_link

At $750 per night to a private contractor per child, you'd think they could cover hot meals, showers, toothbrushes etc
Or let them go to families happy to care for them...

[RedFromMI]

Rahm agrees..... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0eDwFfnT_C ... _copy_link

At $750 per night to a private contractor per child, you'd think they could cover hot meals, showers, toothbrushes etc
Or let them go to families happy to care for them...

What - and lose their giant profit from running this?

[MDlaxfan76]

Rahm agrees..... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0eDwFfnT_C ... _copy_link

At $750 per night to a private contractor per child, you'd think they could cover hot meals, showers, toothbrushes etc
Or let them go to families happy to care for them...

What - and lose their giant profit from running this?

Exactly...and their lobbyists get fat encouraging the Trumpists to jail more kids and families...

[youthathletics]

Rahm agrees..... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0eDwFfnT_C ... _copy_link

At $750 per night to a private contractor per child, you'd think they could cover hot meals, showers, toothbrushes etc
Or let them go to families happy to care for them...

What - and lose their giant profit from running this?

Exactly...and their lobbyists get fat encouraging the Trumpists to jail more kids and families...

Because under Obama that never happened.

Under Obama, children were separated from parents only when authorities had concerns for their well-being or could not confirm that the adult was in fact their legal guardian,.....

[MDlaxfan76]

Rahm agrees..... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0eDwFfnT_C ... _copy_link

At $750 per night to a private contractor per child, you'd think they could cover hot meals, showers, toothbrushes etc
Or let them go to families happy to care for them...

What - and lose their giant profit from running this?

Exactly...and their lobbyists get fat encouraging the Trumpists to jail more kids and families...

Because under Obama that never happened.

Under Obama, children were separated from parents only when authorities had concerns for their well-being or could not confirm that the adult was in fact their legal guardian,.....

Fair point, though certainly the policy was dramatically changed under Trump so as to purposely separate all the kids from their parents, and more to the point of the costs of holding them, the policy is now to hold onto migrants as long as possible rather than to release those who file for asylum.

There's no question that this has been purposeful, ostensibly to 'discourage' migrants from making the trip.

But it's also quite to the benefit of the various contractors, their lobbyists, and their politician beneficiaries...

[Typical Lax Dad]

Rahm agrees..... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0eDwFfnT_C ... _copy_link

At $750 per night to a private contractor per child, you'd think they could cover hot meals, showers, toothbrushes etc
Or let them go to families happy to care for them...

What - and lose their giant profit from running this?

Exactly...and their lobbyists get fat encouraging the Trumpists to jail more kids and families...

Because under Obama that never happened.

Under Obama, children were separated from parents only when authorities had concerns for their well-being or could not confirm that the adult was in fact their legal guardian,.....

https://www.guestreservations.com/trump ... rrency=USD

[youthathletics]

Spent plenty of time in there over the past few years. Even took my wife for drinks one afternoon. Friggen $30 for a vodka Tonic and 36 for a Manhattan with a middle of the road rye.

Danged overpriced bastige he is.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Spent plenty of time in there over the past few years. Even took my wife for drinks one afternoon. Friggen $30 for a vodka Tonic and 36 for a Manhattan with a middle of the road rye.

Danged overpriced bastige he is.

Cheaper than the $750 rate for the migrants.

[youthathletics]

No cap

[old salt]

Salty, the only reason it would need 60 votes was Trump's opposition.
McConnell would not have been able to block it.

I'm not surprised that folks would be enthusiastic about the Mexicans fighting the cartels. Major parts of Mexico are dominated by the cartels, through a combination of incredible violence and intimidation and corruption of the police and gov't officials. Incredibly dangerous for regular folks.

Same for Guatemala, and the rest of the Triangle.

The "Safe Third Party" is a complete joke, window dressing for posturing only. The notion that Guatemala is 'safe' for anyone other than those pledging fealty to the criminals is flat ridiculous.

The Senate filibuster rules have nothing to do with Trump or any other President.
40 Senators can block anything not exempted by the nuclear option.

The Safe Third Country rule is no more of a joke than the asylum scam being perpetrated by economic migrants.
There are safe areas in Mexico open to migrants, as are Costa Rica & Panama.
Less than 10% of asylum seekers from the Northern Triangle see the adjudication process through to completion & gain asylum.
It's a massive con job & diversion of resources.

I was surprised at the reaction to the news by the folks I was watching it with,
They see the asylum abuse for the scam that it is & view it as something making life harder for them here.

True, but what 40 Senators would have blocked a bi-partisan bill passed by the House and supported by Trump and McConnell???

You deflect as usual...Guatemala can't possibly be considered a 'safe' harbor for asylum seekers...why the heck to do you think they're fleeing?

What makes you think that bill would have passed the House ?

[MDlaxfan76]

Salty, the only reason it would need 60 votes was Trump's opposition.
McConnell would not have been able to block it.

I'm not surprised that folks would be enthusiastic about the Mexicans fighting the cartels. Major parts of Mexico are dominated by the cartels, through a combination of incredible violence and intimidation and corruption of the police and gov't officials. Incredibly dangerous for regular folks.

Same for Guatemala, and the rest of the Triangle.

The "Safe Third Party" is a complete joke, window dressing for posturing only. The notion that Guatemala is 'safe' for anyone other than those pledging fealty to the criminals is flat ridiculous.

The Senate filibuster rules have nothing to do with Trump or any other President.
40 Senators can block anything not exempted by the nuclear option.

The Safe Third Country rule is no more of a joke than the asylum scam being perpetrated by economic migrants.
There are safe areas in Mexico open to migrants, as are Costa Rica & Panama.
Less than 10% of asylum seekers from the Northern Triangle see the adjudication process through to completion & gain asylum.
It's a massive con job & diversion of resources.

I was surprised at the reaction to the news by the folks I was watching it with,
They see the asylum abuse for the scam that it is & view it as something making life harder for them here.

True, but what 40 Senators would have blocked a bi-partisan bill passed by the House and supported by Trump and McConnell???

You deflect as usual...Guatemala can't possibly be considered a 'safe' harbor for asylum seekers...why the heck to do you think they're fleeing?

What makes you think that bill would have passed the House ?

Because Pelosi and the rest of the leadership supported the 'deal' made. After agreeing, Trump balked, not them.

[Cooter]

I still think that

In North Carolina, during the past 18 months, more than 331 illegal aliens have been charged with 1,172 child rapes and child sexual assaults, according to data collected by an independent researcher.

as reported in this article:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/illegal-i ... 06558.html

seems like quite a lot of sex crimes against children.
As they say, "Where there is smoke, there is often fire."

One could sort of see, that a pedophile or person with pedophillic tendencies might find things getting "to hot" in his home country and might find moving across the U.S.'s easily jump able borders and starting with a clean slate a good move.

Then there is this guy, who gets caught in Louisiana, but had been deported from CA back in 2005:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immi ... es-reports

[RedFromMI]

I still think that

In North Carolina, during the past 18 months, more than 331 illegal aliens have been charged with 1,172 child rapes and child sexual assaults, according to data collected by an independent researcher.

as reported in this article:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/illegal-i ... 06558.html

seems like quite a lot of sex crimes against children.
As they say, "Where there is smoke, there is often fire."

One could sort of see, that a pedophile or person with pedophillic tendencies might find things getting "to hot" in his home country and might find moving across the U.S.'s easily jump able borders and starting with a clean slate a good move.

Then there is this guy, who gets caught in Louisiana, but had been deported from CA back in 2005:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immi ... es-reports

Took a look at the Epoch Times article. All based on a retired electrician who has put together reports - sees a news report of someone arrested for a sex crime with (generally) as Hispanic surname, and calls the arresting department to "confirm" immigration status. Not exactly an unbiased search, and there is no comparison with the actual rate of sex crimes for everyone else for comparison.

The guy who collects this information has tried (and failed) to get MSM to pay attention - and for good reason: it does not pass the kinds of tests legitimate news organizations use to determine whether the information is reliable and truthful.

North Carolina has in the tens of thousands of people required to register as sex offenders (see http://sexoffender.ncsbi.gov/stats.aspx) so it is hard to understand the actual level of sex crimes to compare to...

Combine that with the well-known bias of the Epoch Times and their playing loose and fast with the facts (see https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/) makes me take this with more than a few grains of salt...

[a fan]

I still think that

In North Carolina, during the past 18 months, more than 331 illegal aliens have been charged with 1,172 child rapes and child sexual assaults, according to data collected by an independent researcher.

as reported in this article:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/illegal-i ... 06558.html

seems like quite a lot of sex crimes against children.
As they say, "Where there is smoke, there is often fire."

One could sort of see, that a pedophile or person with pedophillic tendencies might find things getting "to hot" in his home country and might find moving across the U.S.'s easily jump able borders and starting with a clean slate a good move.

Then there is this guy, who gets caught in Louisiana, but had been deported from CA back in 2005:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immi ... es-reports

If only Republicans could do something about this, right?

How's "blame the Dems" working out for you as a legislative strategy?

You're "blame the Dems" game tells your rep: "do nothing, and I'll still vote for you, because I don't want to hold you accountable for doing your job."

[MDlaxfan76]

I still think that

In North Carolina, during the past 18 months, more than 331 illegal aliens have been charged with 1,172 child rapes and child sexual assaults, according to data collected by an independent researcher.

as reported in this article:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/illegal-i ... 06558.html

seems like quite a lot of sex crimes against children.
As they say, "Where there is smoke, there is often fire."

One could sort of see, that a pedophile or person with pedophillic tendencies might find things getting "to hot" in his home country and might find moving across the U.S.'s easily jump able borders and starting with a clean slate a good move.

Then there is this guy, who gets caught in Louisiana, but had been deported from CA back in 2005:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immi ... es-reports

Took a look at the Epoch Times article. All based on a retired electrician who has put together reports - sees a news report of someone arrested for a sex crime with (generally) as Hispanic surname, and calls the arresting department to "confirm" immigration status. Not exactly an unbiased search, and there is no comparison with the actual rate of sex crimes for everyone else for comparison.

The guy who collects this information has tried (and failed) to get MSM to pay attention - and for good reason: it does not pass the kinds of tests legitimate news organizations use to determine whether the information is reliable and truthful.

North Carolina has in the tens of thousands of people required to register as sex offenders (see http://sexoffender.ncsbi.gov/stats.aspx) so it is hard to understand the actual level of sex crimes to compare to...

Combine that with the well-known bias of the Epoch Times and their playing loose and fast with the facts (see https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/) makes me take this with more than a few grains of salt...

Exactly.
Cooter why do you persist?
This has all been pointed out repeatedly.

Bad source = ignore. Or at least it should!

[old salt]

Salty, the only reason it would need 60 votes was Trump's opposition.
McConnell would not have been able to block it.

I'm not surprised that folks would be enthusiastic about the Mexicans fighting the cartels. Major parts of Mexico are dominated by the cartels, through a combination of incredible violence and intimidation and corruption of the police and gov't officials. Incredibly dangerous for regular folks.

Same for Guatemala, and the rest of the Triangle.

The "Safe Third Party" is a complete joke, window dressing for posturing only. The notion that Guatemala is 'safe' for anyone other than those pledging fealty to the criminals is flat ridiculous.

The Senate filibuster rules have nothing to do with Trump or any other President.
40 Senators can block anything not exempted by the nuclear option.

The Safe Third Country rule is no more of a joke than the asylum scam being perpetrated by economic migrants.
There are safe areas in Mexico open to migrants, as are Costa Rica & Panama.
Less than 10% of asylum seekers from the Northern Triangle see the adjudication process through to completion & gain asylum.
It's a massive con job & diversion of resources.

I was surprised at the reaction to the news by the folks I was watching it with,
They see the asylum abuse for the scam that it is & view it as something making life harder for them here.

True, but what 40 Senators would have blocked a bi-partisan bill passed by the House and supported by Trump and McConnell???

You deflect as usual...Guatemala can't possibly be considered a 'safe' harbor for asylum seekers...why the heck to do you think they're fleeing?

What makes you think that bill would have passed the House ?

Because Pelosi and the rest of the leadership supported the 'deal' made. After agreeing, Trump balked, not them.

Pelosi wasn't in the majority back then. There had to be a majority of House (R)'s for the bill, before Ryan could bring it to a vote.

Congress was, & remains, too divided on immigration to pass any comp reform to send to Trump.

That's why it has to be addressed in small, crisis management bites. Like the asylum laws & DACA.

[a fan]

Congress was, & remains, too divided on immigration to pass any comp reform to send to Trump.

Same song for 50 years. At what point do you realize it's a show, and the 1%....including Trump himself as well as prominent Dems....are too busy making money to bother so much as lifting a finger to work on a bill?

[old salt]

Congress was, & remains, too divided on immigration to pass any comp reform to send to Trump.

Same song for 50 years. At what point do you realize it's a show, and the 1%....including Trump himself as well as prominent Dems....are too busy making money to bother so much as lifting a finger to work on a bill?

I acknowledged that all along. After Durbin stormed out of the meeting 'cause Trump cussed -- I gave up on comp reform under Trump.

I now hope for incremental, crisis driven changes, as the only way to immigration reform.
Your retroactive hindsight is an old, boring diversion that brings no info or new ideas to the issue.

[a fan]

I gave you the path, and it ain't retroactive. My path is for RIGHT NOW. To quote you: you just don't LIKE my answer.

Until Republican voters hold their Republican President and Republican Representatives accountable...and either vote them out, or Primary them....nothing will change.

That's now how your team works. You're more than happy to "blame the Dems", give your reps something to run on next election, and be satisfied with the status quo. So that's what they do.

You're LITERALLY telling your reps to do nothing about the problem. So that's what they do.


Same goes for the Dems, obviously. Until THE VOTERS change their behavior, we'll continue to get passed up by other 1st world nations that have functional governments.

Immigration and VISA reform has been untouched for 50 years. At what point do partisans wake up and petition their own leaders?

[Cooter]

We have an article on 'Wall bonds' in this week's Epoch Times:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-borde ... 18726.html