OCanada wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:37 am
a fan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:18 pm
Brooklyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:13 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 pm
Brooklyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:04 pm
No Israel? I have REPEATEDLY stated that I want a
one state solution.
Please read my posts again.
Oh, I read them. What happened 60 years ago-----your words, not mine? 'member the war?
Or more to the point: how many jewish people live in your "0ne State Solutions" in neighboring Egypt or Syria?
Can't answer for either one. Do they claim to be democratic or are they self proclaimed Islamic states?
Next to zero for both.
As for claims of "Democracy.....etc." Irrelevant. The point is, the Jewish people are not welcome in those countries. You are pretending like the Muslims would play nicey-nice if the were allowed power in Israel.
I'm not any happier about this mess than you are. But if the Jewish people in the region laid down their arms? You are hopefully not so far gone to understand that it would take maybe a week or two before they'd be wiped out.
The Iranians, Syrians, and Egyptians have no such worries.
Your "one State solution" would wipe out the last remaining Jewish people in the region, Brooks. You're not being realistic, and you know it.
Israel has always wanted a one state solution. In the last decade or so they have been trying normalizing w several middle eastern states. That is one reason for the attack. They were alerted by Egypt. If they believe it can be done as it appears it can w Egypt and Jordan and developing w the Saudis then i think we can.
Israel has been a nuclear power since at least the 50. Militarily it is difficult to see how they could lose. Asymetric warfare produces strange outputs sometimes. Vietnam comes to mind. We lost
Apartheid produces civilian unrest. So does great disparities in wealth. Both are present there.
Well, clearly Apartheid does not always produce civilian unrest. If it did, Egypt would be in flames, as there are zero Jewish people there.
Same for Syria and Lebanon. They are not welcome in those countries, and do not have equal rights. No one talks about this simply because it's so obvious that it's never brought up.
Point is, if the folks in the surrounding countries want the Israelis to treat the non-jewish population as equals: you go first.
This is complicated. Israeli leaders could have spent the last 20 years building Gaza into a modern city with gleaming infrastructure, to show good faith. Sadly, they did the opposite. It's a mess everywhere you look, with a small percentage of people on both sides ruining everything for the vast majority who just want to live simple, peaceful lives.