...yeah, beer drinkers are the problem. None of the other examples you cited were as over the top as Dylan.
Keep blaming the consumer & calling them stupid. You're as savvy as the former InBev ad exec who hired Dylan.
How are we defining "stupid?"
I was being polite => a bunch of insecure white men with little weeners?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:10 pmHow are we defining "stupid?"
Right. The commercials and sponsored LGBTQ events from before....that you have hilariously never seen.....weren't as "over the top".
Don't want to be called stupid? Don't do stupid things. Things like getting grown men with families worked up about the sexual orientation of someone in a freaking commercial. This is the very definition of stupid.
Right.
Well, by all means, explain to the class why adults in 2024 would POSSIBLY care about who someone sleeps with?old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:12 pmI was being polite => a bunch of insecure white men with little weeners?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:10 pmHow are we defining "stupid?"
I don't recall any of the earlier commercials you reference but then I rarely see commercials in real time. Almost all my viewing is dvr recorded w/ >>> through the commercials. I noticed the Dylan commercials only after they became controversial. The first I learned of it was on my E-trade portfolio page in news items explaining the decline in value of my BUD stock. ...& I took advantage of the buy opportunity.
Neither do I. I STILL haven't seen Dylan's commericial. Vaguely remember the gay marriage campaign Bud ran, thought nothing of it, and neither did Conservative America when it ran.
Glad you made money on it, and have no issue with you doing so. In fact, you're earning money off the stupidity of this whole thing. Who the F cares who sleeps with whom, and why would you spend even a millisecond on this made up issue?old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:35 pm Almost all my viewing is dvr recorded w/ >>> through the commercials. I noticed the Dylan commercials only after they became controversial. The first I learned of it was on my E-trade portfolio page in news items explaining the decline in value of my BUD stock. ...& I took advantage of the buy opportunity.
I did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Biden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
So now you're lying with statistics? Fun stuff man. Keep it up.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
Each year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
Yeah, he needs him a good dose of Lester Holt to square his ass away. Americans should be more particular about what news network is brainwashing them. I choose Lester because he looks like a stud wearing his ballistic helmet with the chin strap tightly cinched up. I bet if Chris Matthews was watching he had the tingle down his pant leg again. NBC is portraying Jester as the heir apparent to Walter Cronkite. The Jester is the network anointed" anchor for America" His tag line will be and that's the way we think it should be...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 pmEach year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
What does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 pmEach year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
Ask Nigel Farage who tanked the UK economy over Brexit - they still haven't recovered.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 am What does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?
That it's good for our economy. How do they do it back home in the UK ?
https://www.economist.com/united-states ... e-election
https://www.unhcr.org/us/news/press-rel ... ffice-warn
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-govern ... eport-says
The US economy should aspire to be the UK.Kismet wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:54 amAsk Nigel Farage who tanked the UK economy over Brexit - they still haven't recovered.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 am What does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?
That it's good for our economy. How do they do it back home in the UK ?
https://www.economist.com/united-states ... e-election
https://www.unhcr.org/us/news/press-rel ... ffice-warn
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-govern ... eport-says
Yep. The border’s a big problem. Senate and Prez work to get a reasonable start at a bi-partisan solution and have the Senate R votes to get it through. The House, only needing a simple majority to pass, start getting whispers it could happen.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 amWhat does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 pmEach year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
That it's good for our economy. How do they do it back home in the UK ?
https://www.economist.com/united-states ... e-election
https://www.unhcr.org/us/news/press-rel ... ffice-warn
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-govern ... eport-says
Anyone ask Trump why we he didn’t reform immigration during the first two years of his term?SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:48 amYep. The border’s a big problem. Senate and Prez work to get a reasonable start at a bi-partisan solution and have the Senate R votes to get it through. The House, only needing a simple majority to pass, start getting whispers it could happen.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 amWhat does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 pmEach year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
That it's good for our economy. How do they do it back home in the UK ?
https://www.economist.com/united-states ... e-election
https://www.unhcr.org/us/news/press-rel ... ffice-warn
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-govern ... eport-says
But then something happened that I can’t recall. Can anyone help me?
'Cause Putin likes it the way it is?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:38 amAnyone ask Trump why we he didn’t reform immigration during the first two years of his term?SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:48 amYep. The border’s a big problem. Senate and Prez work to get a reasonable start at a bi-partisan solution and have the Senate R votes to get it through. The House, only needing a simple majority to pass, start getting whispers it could happen.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 amWhat does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 pmEach year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
That it's good for our economy. How do they do it back home in the UK ?
https://www.economist.com/united-states ... e-election
https://www.unhcr.org/us/news/press-rel ... ffice-warn
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-govern ... eport-says
But then something happened that I can’t recall. Can anyone help me?
Cause nobody liked the idea of a border wall. It wasn't like the other party was going to give trump the opportunity to take a victory lap. This chit has dragged on for more than 40 years. BOTH sides didn't give a chit about fixing it. So why didn't Biden fix it on day one of his presidency ?What he did was make the problem a 1000 times worse. Now that it has become a hot button issue of Bidens incompetence in an election year suddenly Joe decides to address a thorny problem he ignored and made worse. Funny how you folks are cheering Biden on for a half ass attempt at a border solution. Election year desperation makes for policy born out of desperation.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:38 amAnyone ask Trump why we he didn’t reform immigration during the first two years of his term?SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:48 amYep. The border’s a big problem. Senate and Prez work to get a reasonable start at a bi-partisan solution and have the Senate R votes to get it through. The House, only needing a simple majority to pass, start getting whispers it could happen.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 amWhat does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 pmEach year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
That it's good for our economy. How do they do it back home in the UK ?
https://www.economist.com/united-states ... e-election
https://www.unhcr.org/us/news/press-rel ... ffice-warn
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-govern ... eport-says
But then something happened that I can’t recall. Can anyone help me?
In January 2017, President Trump signed Executive Order 13767, which formally directed the U.S. government to begin wall construction along the U.S.–Mexico border using existing federal funding.[5] After a political struggle for funding, including an appropriations lapse resulting in a government shutdown for 35 days, and the declaration of a national emergency, construction started in 2018.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:15 pmCause nobody liked the idea of a border wall. It wasn't like the other party was going to give trump the opportunity to take a victory lap. This chit has dragged on for more than 40 years. BOTH sides didn't give a chit about fixing it. So why didn't Biden fix it on day one of his presidency ?What he did was make the problem a 1000 times worse. Now that it has become a hot button issue of Bidens incompetence in an election year suddenly Joe decides to address a thorny problem he ignored and made worse. Funny how you folks are cheering Biden on for a half ass attempt at a border solution. Election year desperation makes for policy born out of desperation.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:38 amAnyone ask Trump why we he didn’t reform immigration during the first two years of his term?SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:48 amYep. The border’s a big problem. Senate and Prez work to get a reasonable start at a bi-partisan solution and have the Senate R votes to get it through. The House, only needing a simple majority to pass, start getting whispers it could happen.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 amWhat does Zanny at the Economist tell you about our open borders "immigration" system ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 pmEach year you sound more and more like and old ass consumer of right wing media.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:21 pmBiden was about attracting more due to his open border policies, then releasing 3 times more to roam freely within the US.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pmI did, and Cato did. Lots of total numbers in Biden's favor. Looks like Biden (& Obama) were more about actions and solutions than Trump, who was all about image and posturing. And so many people conveniently ignore the pandemic.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:52 amThat changes nothing. Look at the total numbers, all categories, Biden vs Trump.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 pmReport is from a right wing group founded by one of the Kochs... so they're lying? That's the second link - Cato's own article. There are tons of actual numbers in the report where he's doing better if you actually look. % in addition to actual numbers too.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:28 pmHow to lie with statistics. Use %'s rather than actual numbers. The gross numbers were higher under Biden. That's what matters.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:44 pm Biden is trying to fix Trump’s broken immigration system
New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
Funny, when you actually dig deeper into the issue and what's driving things? It's not so black and white as OS and Fox and others try to make it. BDS.
Look at the results.President Trump President Biden
Time Period of Arrests FY 2019–2020 (24 months) 1/20/21–3/31/2023 (26.3 Months)
Outcomes as of: December 31, 2021 March 31, 2023
Total encounters 1,365,529 5,022,027
Expulsions/repatriations 647,437 2,557,603
No confirmed departure 718,092 2,464,424
•Still detained •5,162 (as of Jan-2021) •24,279
•Released •712,930 (by Jan-2021) 2,440,145
More total encounters under Biden due to his change in policies, increasing the pull factors. That's a negative result.
More expulsions/repatriations under Biden to be expected due to three fold increase in total encounters (another negative result).
Look at the numbers roaming free & unmonitored :
No confirmed departures = 2.46 million under Biden/ 0.72 million under Trump
Released = 2.44 million under Biden / 0.71 million under Trump
Biden was about attracting more migrants & releasing more into the US.
That's what his actions & solutions accomplished.
That it's good for our economy. How do they do it back home in the UK ?
https://www.economist.com/united-states ... e-election
https://www.unhcr.org/us/news/press-rel ... ffice-warn
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-govern ... eport-says
But then something happened that I can’t recall. Can anyone help me?