Where are we not allowed?
Arizona allows for rainwater collection from your own property. A 1,000 sqft roof with 10” of annual rain can collect 6,000 gallons according to U of A. I wonder how many in Arizona have rain collection systems.
Where are we not allowed?
Most household water usage doesn’t require potable.
ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:53 am My friend and wife retired in Tucson 2 years ago after living in LA since the 70’s. While their home has appreciated in that time he is absolutely miserable as he has asthma and sinus issues. Besides the heat, it’s now very difficult to spend any time outdoors.
The desert used to be the place to go for such ailments, but now it’s misery because over time people installed plants that weren’t native and flooded them with water. Toss in the venomous snakes, lizards and toads with scorpions, tarantulas, coyotes and squadrons of javelinas and it sounds like paradise.
On the positive side, the facility is now located near Clean Coal Creek Canyon Rd.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:47 pm These fnckers are the reason for government.
“Inspectors also told the mining board that they had tried to visit the property earlier in the year after a citizen complaint, but were turned away by the owners. They got an administrative search warrant from a Jefferson County judge to return to the property in July, with the sheriff’s department. ”
“In a 22-page report from a July visit noting multiple alleged violations, state inspectors listed tanks with thousands of gallons of cyanide solution sitting above a concrete berm that could not enclose potential spills. Inspectors said the uncontained chemicals are a hazard to spill or leak into nearby watersheds and threaten the public and environment.
Regulators blasted the facility for a lack of emergency plans to prevent or halt a leak of dangerous chemicals. The facility is near homes and businesses off Coal Creek Canyon Road.
“The Division did not observe spill containment equipment or products, ventilation hoods, first-aid stations, eye-wash stations, or emergency showers at the Hwy 72 Mill site which would be standard safety measures in a permitted and regulated mill facility of this sort,” according to the inspection report. “Additionally, there was no secondary containment for any of the equipment or chemicals stored within the main building. A loss of process solution within the main building had the potential to flow out of the building and/or possibly into existing floor drains.”
https://coloradosun.com/2022/08/18/colo ... n=SUNRISER
What's the big deal? If you simply slash the budget of the regulatory agency, they will find fewer companies violating safety regs. It's a win-win.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:47 pm These fnckers are the reason for government.
“Inspectors also told the mining board that they had tried to visit the property earlier in the year after a citizen complaint, but were turned away by the owners. They got an administrative search warrant from a Jefferson County judge to return to the property in July, with the sheriff’s department. ”
“In a 22-page report from a July visit noting multiple alleged violations, state inspectors listed tanks with thousands of gallons of cyanide solution sitting above a concrete berm that could not enclose potential spills. Inspectors said the uncontained chemicals are a hazard to spill or leak into nearby watersheds and threaten the public and environment.
Regulators blasted the facility for a lack of emergency plans to prevent or halt a leak of dangerous chemicals. The facility is near homes and businesses off Coal Creek Canyon Road.
“The Division did not observe spill containment equipment or products, ventilation hoods, first-aid stations, eye-wash stations, or emergency showers at the Hwy 72 Mill site which would be standard safety measures in a permitted and regulated mill facility of this sort,” according to the inspection report. “Additionally, there was no secondary containment for any of the equipment or chemicals stored within the main building. A loss of process solution within the main building had the potential to flow out of the building and/or possibly into existing floor drains.”
https://coloradosun.com/2022/08/18/colo ... n=SUNRISER
This is absolutely correct.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:27 pmWhat's the big deal? If you simply slash the budget of the regulatory agency, they will find fewer companies violating safety regs. It's a win-win.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:47 pm These fnckers are the reason for government.
“Inspectors also told the mining board that they had tried to visit the property earlier in the year after a citizen complaint, but were turned away by the owners. They got an administrative search warrant from a Jefferson County judge to return to the property in July, with the sheriff’s department. ”
“In a 22-page report from a July visit noting multiple alleged violations, state inspectors listed tanks with thousands of gallons of cyanide solution sitting above a concrete berm that could not enclose potential spills. Inspectors said the uncontained chemicals are a hazard to spill or leak into nearby watersheds and threaten the public and environment.
Regulators blasted the facility for a lack of emergency plans to prevent or halt a leak of dangerous chemicals. The facility is near homes and businesses off Coal Creek Canyon Road.
“The Division did not observe spill containment equipment or products, ventilation hoods, first-aid stations, eye-wash stations, or emergency showers at the Hwy 72 Mill site which would be standard safety measures in a permitted and regulated mill facility of this sort,” according to the inspection report. “Additionally, there was no secondary containment for any of the equipment or chemicals stored within the main building. A loss of process solution within the main building had the potential to flow out of the building and/or possibly into existing floor drains.”
https://coloradosun.com/2022/08/18/colo ... n=SUNRISER
Not to put too fine a point on it, humans are fncked. But good.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:08 pm Water is going to be a problem for a while. Rivers are down, glaciers disappearing. The infrastructure that carries water to homes is old and decaying causing problems of its own. Ask the residents of any older big city.
The good news is, rainfall is increasing, but not necessarily where we need it. The bad news is, rainfall and ground water is more contaminated then ever. There are over 10,000 varieties of PFAS compounds loose in the environment, captured and falling in the rain and not filtered out of drinking water. PFAS compounds and as a result rainwater and groundwater are now poisonous to the fauna of the planet (that includes us). PFAS compounds are also known as "forever chemicals" given the strength of their chemical bonds. Once created they are not naturally broken down and generally require the supply of significant chemical energy to decompose them into something harmless. PFAS compounds cause problems for all the organ systems in the body, research has found. We got to this point because PFAS compounds have been very under-regulated. Their harmful properties were initially unrecognized. Experience has shown them to be far more dangerous than originally thought.
Many industries make use of these chemicals, no stick cookware, food packaging, thin lite weight water bottles that won't decompose when holding water, industrial protective coatings, water resistant clothing / fabrics, cosmetics, etc.
The good news is compounds that are safer than PFASes have been found that can replace the PFASes and are cheap. So a lot of the PFAS usage has already vanished or will shortly. We are however left with a legacy problem in the atmosphere and environment, that until recent months looked an impossible problem. Scientists have identified a low cost chemical reaction / chemical treatment using sodium hydroxide that will cause the decomposition of about 4900 of these chemicals which contain Florine as a major component. Unfortunately no industrial level decontamination process has been demonstrated as yet. The work on finding a mechanism to render the other 5000 + compounds harmless goes on.
Don't worry, this is just another democrat hoax.
As Hoodat commented, we have not been a very good steward of the planet.
In case you didn't realize your "children of oil" bullchit made possible for you to post on this forum. Where do you think the computer your clickety clacking on came from??? DUMBASS!!!!! Unless your computer is 100% vegan and plant based. Honestly sometimes the debate with you people is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponents....PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:49 pmNot to put too fine a point on it, humans are fncked. But good.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:08 pm Water is going to be a problem for a while. Rivers are down, glaciers disappearing. The infrastructure that carries water to homes is old and decaying causing problems of its own. Ask the residents of any older big city.
The good news is, rainfall is increasing, but not necessarily where we need it. The bad news is, rainfall and ground water is more contaminated then ever. There are over 10,000 varieties of PFAS compounds loose in the environment, captured and falling in the rain and not filtered out of drinking water. PFAS compounds and as a result rainwater and groundwater are now poisonous to the fauna of the planet (that includes us). PFAS compounds are also known as "forever chemicals" given the strength of their chemical bonds. Once created they are not naturally broken down and generally require the supply of significant chemical energy to decompose them into something harmless. PFAS compounds cause problems for all the organ systems in the body, research has found. We got to this point because PFAS compounds have been very under-regulated. Their harmful properties were initially unrecognized. Experience has shown them to be far more dangerous than originally thought.
Many industries make use of these chemicals, no stick cookware, food packaging, thin lite weight water bottles that won't decompose when holding water, industrial protective coatings, water resistant clothing / fabrics, cosmetics, etc.
The good news is compounds that are safer than PFASes have been found that can replace the PFASes and are cheap. So a lot of the PFAS usage has already vanished or will shortly. We are however left with a legacy problem in the atmosphere and environment, that until recent months looked an impossible problem. Scientists have identified a low cost chemical reaction / chemical treatment using sodium hydroxide that will cause the decomposition of about 4900 of these chemicals which contain Florine as a major component. Unfortunately no industrial level decontamination process has been demonstrated as yet. The work on finding a mechanism to render the other 5000 + compounds harmless goes on.
Don't worry, this is just another democrat hoax.
As Hoodat commented, we have not been a very good steward of the planet.
The Children of Oil will succumb to its tender ministrations.
Strike a nerve, did I?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:37 amIn case you didn't realize your "children of oil" bullchit made possible for you to post on this forum. Where do you think the computer your clickety clacking on came from??? DUMBASS!!!!! Unless your computer is 100% vegan and plant based. Honestly sometimes the debate with you people is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponents....PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:49 pmNot to put too fine a point on it, humans are fncked. But good.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:08 pm Water is going to be a problem for a while. Rivers are down, glaciers disappearing. The infrastructure that carries water to homes is old and decaying causing problems of its own. Ask the residents of any older big city.
The good news is, rainfall is increasing, but not necessarily where we need it. The bad news is, rainfall and ground water is more contaminated then ever. There are over 10,000 varieties of PFAS compounds loose in the environment, captured and falling in the rain and not filtered out of drinking water. PFAS compounds and as a result rainwater and groundwater are now poisonous to the fauna of the planet (that includes us). PFAS compounds are also known as "forever chemicals" given the strength of their chemical bonds. Once created they are not naturally broken down and generally require the supply of significant chemical energy to decompose them into something harmless. PFAS compounds cause problems for all the organ systems in the body, research has found. We got to this point because PFAS compounds have been very under-regulated. Their harmful properties were initially unrecognized. Experience has shown them to be far more dangerous than originally thought.
Many industries make use of these chemicals, no stick cookware, food packaging, thin lite weight water bottles that won't decompose when holding water, industrial protective coatings, water resistant clothing / fabrics, cosmetics, etc.
The good news is compounds that are safer than PFASes have been found that can replace the PFASes and are cheap. So a lot of the PFAS usage has already vanished or will shortly. We are however left with a legacy problem in the atmosphere and environment, that until recent months looked an impossible problem. Scientists have identified a low cost chemical reaction / chemical treatment using sodium hydroxide that will cause the decomposition of about 4900 of these chemicals which contain Florine as a major component. Unfortunately no industrial level decontamination process has been demonstrated as yet. The work on finding a mechanism to render the other 5000 + compounds harmless goes on.
Don't worry, this is just another democrat hoax.
As Hoodat commented, we have not been a very good steward of the planet.
The Children of Oil will succumb to its tender ministrations.
https://www.plasticsusa.com/what-is-pla ... come-from/
" In most cases, plastics are derived from by-products of natural gas or crude oil"
keep clickety clacking you fellow "child of oil"
There is a Twitter thread of UPS drivers showing the temp inside their trucks. Many are upwards of 107+PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:37 pm A twofer. Notice the ethnicity of the deceased? And if they don’t die, CKD isn’t far away.
“Mr. Bell, 45, was hospitalized for heat exposure and renal failure after working his route on a 103-degree day in July.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/20/busi ... eaths.html
Just the facts. If your going to stand up on your ivory tower and make blustering statements someone should point out to you that your also a "child of oil" matter of fact we all are.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:36 amStrike a nerve, did I?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:37 amIn case you didn't realize your "children of oil" bullchit made possible for you to post on this forum. Where do you think the computer your clickety clacking on came from??? DUMBASS!!!!! Unless your computer is 100% vegan and plant based. Honestly sometimes the debate with you people is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponents....PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:49 pmNot to put too fine a point on it, humans are fncked. But good.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:08 pm Water is going to be a problem for a while. Rivers are down, glaciers disappearing. The infrastructure that carries water to homes is old and decaying causing problems of its own. Ask the residents of any older big city.
The good news is, rainfall is increasing, but not necessarily where we need it. The bad news is, rainfall and ground water is more contaminated then ever. There are over 10,000 varieties of PFAS compounds loose in the environment, captured and falling in the rain and not filtered out of drinking water. PFAS compounds and as a result rainwater and groundwater are now poisonous to the fauna of the planet (that includes us). PFAS compounds are also known as "forever chemicals" given the strength of their chemical bonds. Once created they are not naturally broken down and generally require the supply of significant chemical energy to decompose them into something harmless. PFAS compounds cause problems for all the organ systems in the body, research has found. We got to this point because PFAS compounds have been very under-regulated. Their harmful properties were initially unrecognized. Experience has shown them to be far more dangerous than originally thought.
Many industries make use of these chemicals, no stick cookware, food packaging, thin lite weight water bottles that won't decompose when holding water, industrial protective coatings, water resistant clothing / fabrics, cosmetics, etc.
The good news is compounds that are safer than PFASes have been found that can replace the PFASes and are cheap. So a lot of the PFAS usage has already vanished or will shortly. We are however left with a legacy problem in the atmosphere and environment, that until recent months looked an impossible problem. Scientists have identified a low cost chemical reaction / chemical treatment using sodium hydroxide that will cause the decomposition of about 4900 of these chemicals which contain Florine as a major component. Unfortunately no industrial level decontamination process has been demonstrated as yet. The work on finding a mechanism to render the other 5000 + compounds harmless goes on.
Don't worry, this is just another democrat hoax.
As Hoodat commented, we have not been a very good steward of the planet.
The Children of Oil will succumb to its tender ministrations.
https://www.plasticsusa.com/what-is-pla ... come-from/
" In most cases, plastics are derived from by-products of natural gas or crude oil"
keep clickety clacking you fellow "child of oil"
Didn’t say I wasn’t. It is my, uh, birthright.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:48 amJust the facts. If your going to stand up on your ivory tower and make blustering statements someone should point out to you that your also a "child of oil" matter of fact we all are.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:36 amStrike a nerve, did I?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:37 amIn case you didn't realize your "children of oil" bullchit made possible for you to post on this forum. Where do you think the computer your clickety clacking on came from??? DUMBASS!!!!! Unless your computer is 100% vegan and plant based. Honestly sometimes the debate with you people is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponents....PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:49 pmNot to put too fine a point on it, humans are fncked. But good.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:08 pm Water is going to be a problem for a while. Rivers are down, glaciers disappearing. The infrastructure that carries water to homes is old and decaying causing problems of its own. Ask the residents of any older big city.
The good news is, rainfall is increasing, but not necessarily where we need it. The bad news is, rainfall and ground water is more contaminated then ever. There are over 10,000 varieties of PFAS compounds loose in the environment, captured and falling in the rain and not filtered out of drinking water. PFAS compounds and as a result rainwater and groundwater are now poisonous to the fauna of the planet (that includes us). PFAS compounds are also known as "forever chemicals" given the strength of their chemical bonds. Once created they are not naturally broken down and generally require the supply of significant chemical energy to decompose them into something harmless. PFAS compounds cause problems for all the organ systems in the body, research has found. We got to this point because PFAS compounds have been very under-regulated. Their harmful properties were initially unrecognized. Experience has shown them to be far more dangerous than originally thought.
Many industries make use of these chemicals, no stick cookware, food packaging, thin lite weight water bottles that won't decompose when holding water, industrial protective coatings, water resistant clothing / fabrics, cosmetics, etc.
The good news is compounds that are safer than PFASes have been found that can replace the PFASes and are cheap. So a lot of the PFAS usage has already vanished or will shortly. We are however left with a legacy problem in the atmosphere and environment, that until recent months looked an impossible problem. Scientists have identified a low cost chemical reaction / chemical treatment using sodium hydroxide that will cause the decomposition of about 4900 of these chemicals which contain Florine as a major component. Unfortunately no industrial level decontamination process has been demonstrated as yet. The work on finding a mechanism to render the other 5000 + compounds harmless goes on.
Don't worry, this is just another democrat hoax.
As Hoodat commented, we have not been a very good steward of the planet.
The Children of Oil will succumb to its tender ministrations.
https://www.plasticsusa.com/what-is-pla ... come-from/
" In most cases, plastics are derived from by-products of natural gas or crude oil"
keep clickety clacking you fellow "child of oil"