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Kismet wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:21 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:12 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:02 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:58 pm Openly admit I have not watched a minute of hearing, seems some have called into question rulings on child porn. Some have requested docs on her rulings WRT child porn & Durbin claims this can out in jeopardy those In these cases.

Seems like a fair bone to pick, no?
Are you going to pretend you don't know why.....of all issues...they chose this one, YA?
No pretending going on. Seems this is a legal merit based question, not a hypothetical that requires if she drank beers or went to a party. It’s why I asked. If it’s a stupid point they are bringing up....then aoo ok be it, again, why I asked.
She was before the same panel about a year ago and was easily confirmed with Republican support. None of them brought up all this garbage then....ever wonder why that is? Three guesses and the first two don't count. ;)

Ironically she gave the Pizzagate child porn QAnon guy four years in a Federal lockup for shooting up the place. :oops:



The question of ‘what is a woman’ wasn’t raised a year ago because Democrats hadn’t quite swallowed their Marxist looney pills regarding trans folks competing in girls sports. Now that they have, it’s time to ask every leftist lunatic judge if they can answer a very simple question: what is a woman?

They won’t answer of course, because the end game is to upend the natural order of things, biological sexes included, and judges are the tip of the spear to deny nature and normalcy.

It’s really something watching Democrats torpedo their voter popularity with this maniacal quest to subvert normalcy and upend society. Keep it up though! All the way through November 8!

More leftist lunacy yesterday, with NYC’s Health Commissioner refusing to call women ‘women’, just “birthing people”. These bozos are going or get their arses handed to them so hard this fall. Total clowns, unfit for leadership.


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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:33 am
Kismet wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:21 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:12 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:02 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:58 pm Openly admit I have not watched a minute of hearing, seems some have called into question rulings on child porn. Some have requested docs on her rulings WRT child porn & Durbin claims this can out in jeopardy those In these cases.

Seems like a fair bone to pick, no?
Are you going to pretend you don't know why.....of all issues...they chose this one, YA?
No pretending going on. Seems this is a legal merit based question, not a hypothetical that requires if she drank beers or went to a party. It’s why I asked. If it’s a stupid point they are bringing up....then aoo ok be it, again, why I asked.
She was before the same panel about a year ago and was easily confirmed with Republican support. None of them brought up all this garbage then....ever wonder why that is? Three guesses and the first two don't count. ;)

Ironically she gave the Pizzagate child porn QAnon guy four years in a Federal lockup for shooting up the place. :oops:



The question of ‘what is a woman’ wasn’t raised a year ago because Democrats hadn’t quite swallowed their Marxist looney pills regarding trans folks competing in girls sports. Now that they have, it’s time to ask every leftist lunatic judge if they can answer a very simple question: what is a woman?

They won’t answer of course, because the end game is to upend the natural order of things, biological sexes included, and judges are the tip of the spear to deny nature and normalcy.

It’s really something watching Democrats torpedo their voter popularity with this maniacal quest to subvert normalcy and upend society. Keep it up though! All the way through November 8!

More leftist lunacy yesterday, with NYC’s Health Commissioner refusing to call women ‘women’, just “birthing people”. These bozos are going or get their arses handed to them so hard this fall. Total clowns, unfit for leadership.



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Great...........the party of sameness and TAATS......get's to choose the "speaker".

Now what?

you gonna complain that the GOP "majority" can't pass any "bills" b/c they afraid Biden will "veto" them ? :lol:
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runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:00 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:33 am
Kismet wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:21 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:12 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:02 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:58 pm Openly admit I have not watched a minute of hearing, seems some have called into question rulings on child porn. Some have requested docs on her rulings WRT child porn & Durbin claims this can out in jeopardy those In these cases.

Seems like a fair bone to pick, no?
Are you going to pretend you don't know why.....of all issues...they chose this one, YA?
No pretending going on. Seems this is a legal merit based question, not a hypothetical that requires if she drank beers or went to a party. It’s why I asked. If it’s a stupid point they are bringing up....then aoo ok be it, again, why I asked.
She was before the same panel about a year ago and was easily confirmed with Republican support. None of them brought up all this garbage then....ever wonder why that is? Three guesses and the first two don't count. ;)

Ironically she gave the Pizzagate child porn QAnon guy four years in a Federal lockup for shooting up the place. :oops:



The question of ‘what is a woman’ wasn’t raised a year ago because Democrats hadn’t quite swallowed their Marxist looney pills regarding trans folks competing in girls sports. Now that they have, it’s time to ask every leftist lunatic judge if they can answer a very simple question: what is a woman?

They won’t answer of course, because the end game is to upend the natural order of things, biological sexes included, and judges are the tip of the spear to deny nature and normalcy.

It’s really something watching Democrats torpedo their voter popularity with this maniacal quest to subvert normalcy and upend society. Keep it up though! All the way through November 8!

More leftist lunacy yesterday, with NYC’s Health Commissioner refusing to call women ‘women’, just “birthing people”. These bozos are going or get their arses handed to them so hard this fall. Total clowns, unfit for leadership.



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Great...........the party of sameness and TAATS......get's to choose the "speaker".

Now what?

you gonna complain that the GOP "majority" can't pass any "bills" b/c they afraid Biden will "veto" them ? :lol:



Divided government actually tends to work best in America.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:22 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:36 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:58 pm
jhu72 wrote:
dislaxxic wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:30 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:24 amFunny how Dr Ben Carson was a gifted neonatal pediatric surgeon also married to the same woman for many years. I wonder why the pasty faced, mean spirited angry white old liberals on this forum eviscerated him every day. FTR, Ben Carson is also a black man. His downfall was he is the wrong shade of black for the angry, hate filled very old and decrepit white liberal men on this forum. You can't be black and conservative, not in the eyes of you angry old white liberals. Black Americans are suppose to look forward to all the crumbs you hand them in the form of entitlements and say thanka masta while they lick your boot.
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See, there's who you THINK some people are, then there's who they might REALLY be...

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... Ben Carson is a nutter. It doesn't matter what color you are, a nutter is a nutter, when making statements like Carson did; "My mother raised me with no help from the government. We had food stamps and welfare and Section 8 housing, but we made it on our own" :lol: :lol:
And your an angry, disgruntled FLP racist. You know exactly what Dr Carson was say. In your eyes a black conservative. The person your ilk fears the most a black man that can think and provide for himself and succeed on the highest levels of his profession. In simple terms... Dr Carson is the wrong shade of black..he does not need FLP folks like yourself. Good for him. Bad for you... His family accepted help from the government and the taxpayers when they were struggling and the assistance. They didn't become DEPENDENT on the government which is the point of every entitlement program. When you instill the perceived reality into peoples heads that they can't survive without help from the government... Every FLP type smiles just a little brighter. You NEED us and you know it...
... and as usual, you are full of sh*t. His summary statement was untrue and certainly inarticulate for someone as supposedly bright as he. :roll:
As usual you have proven yourself to be an angry, hate filled PhD level racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. Dr Carson saved the lives of countless newborn infants. You mock and ridicule a talented black surgeon. So what have YOU done in your lifes work??? How many lives have you saved? The stage is all yours Doc. This is the perfect opportunity to enlighten every poster here where you have made a difference via your lifetime body of work. Compare your accomplishments to Dr Carsons. How many lives have you saved?? So tell us where you have made a difference??? Your arrogant enough Doc, tooting your own horn should come very naturally to you.

If you want to see a man who is full of chit...look in the mirror.
... I am not going to play your stupid little game. I feel quite comfortable in the life I have lived, the lives I have impacted and the good I have done. I am a happy contented man as I approach the end of my career and ultimately days. I suggest you look in the mirror, because if anyone on this forum is an angry, hate filled individual, it would be you. It is obvious in your writing, you are a jealous individual who spends much of his time feeling inferior, not having a college education clearly bothers the sh*t out of you. You obviously feel that fact has held you back, that others you feel less worthy have passed you by in their success.
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From today's NYT morning breifing:
Distorted Reality

Senate Republicans are painting a false portrait of Ketanji Brown Jackson.

By David Leonhardt
March 24, 2022
Updated 8:21 a.m. ET

Here are a few facts about Ketanji Brown Jackson:
  • She frequently associates herself with a patriotic narrative of American history. “The first of my many blessings,” she told the Senate this week, “is the fact that I was born in this great nation.”
  • She is not an advocate of critical race theory or other progressive ideas about education. She has never taken a public position on hot-button school issues like whether young children should be taught about gender identity.
  • As a federal judge, she has a mainstream record, broadly typical of a Democratic nominee. She has often praised law enforcement, including her proud mention this week that her brother and two of her uncles worked as police officers.
You might not know any of this — you might well believe the opposite — if you spent the past few days listening to Republican senators or consuming many conservative media sources.

Jackson’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing has turned into a case study of how disconnected from reality large parts of the Republican ecosystem have become. I know that description sounds harsh and will bother some conservative readers. But I think the facts warrant it.
Birtherism to pornography

The debate over Jackson’s nomination has often had little to do with her. It has become an argument over a nominee who does not exist — one who does not respect America, is not truly religious, coddles child abusers and terrorists and has highly developed views about the importance of “woke” education. Yesterday, conservative activists used this portrayal to pressure moderate Democratic senators to vote against Jackson.

Conspiracy theories and unfair accusations have a long history in American politics, of course. But they have often remained on the margins. Today, distortions and falsehoods have moved to the center of politics.

While neither party is entirely innocent, there is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats. False claims regularly flow from the leaders of the Republican Party — including its most recent president, several of its likely future presidential candidates and the most influential media figures aligned with the party.

Donald Trump began his political career by claiming that Barack Obama was born in Africa and ended his presidency with false accusations of voter fraud. Prominent Republicans regularly cast doubt on the fact that greenhouse gases are warming the planet and contributing to extreme weather. Disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines has been so widespread that almost 40 percent of Republican adults have not received a shot, sometimes with fatal consequences.

There is no comparable list of false information coming from senior members of the Democratic Party.

The Jackson hearings have become the latest example. Several Republican senators — including Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz yesterday — have tried to portray her as soft on child pornographers. Their argument depends on a misleading cherry-picking of facts from cases she has heard.

A useful debunking appeared this week in National Review, the conservative magazine, written by Andrew McCarthy, a former prosecutor who noted that he disagreed with Jackson on many legal matters. McCarthy also wrote that Hawley’s accusations were “meritless to the point of demagoguery” and “a smear.” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has pointed out that some Trump nominees had a similar record as Jackson in child-pornography cases, and that Hawley voted to confirm them.

Woke education has become another focus of the hearings, with Republicans like Cruz and Marsha Blackburn trying to portray Jackson as an advocate for it. In truth, she has not taken a position on the issues that fall under that category. Her sole — tenuous — connection to them is serving on the board of Georgetown Day School, an elite private school in Washington.

That was apparently enough for the Republican National Committee to tweet an image of her this week, with her initials — KBJ — crossed out and replaced with CRT, an abbreviation for critical race theory. (Much of the Republican criticism of Jackson probably would have applied to any nominee, regardless of race, but it is hard to imagine the same tweet about a white judge.)

The only time Jackson appears to have mentioned critical race theory publicly was in a 2015 speech. It was part of a list of disciplines that she said had an intellectual connection to criminal sentencing, including administrative law, philosophy, psychology and statistics.
A fairer critique

To be fair, Republicans are correct that many of the broader issues are legitimate matters of public debate. And on some of them, Republicans can make a credible case that progressive Democrats are to the left of public opinion (as Thomas Edsall, a Times Opinion columnist, explains).

Most Americans oppose cutting police budgets, for instance. Many believe that allowing all transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports can be unfair to other girls. Many voters — and not just white voters — think that liberals focus too much on racial identity. Most Americans feel proud of the country and its symbols, including those that some progressives consider racist, like Thanksgiving, the Constitution, the flag and George Washington.

But in trying to make Jackson a stand-in for these views, Republican senators are distorting reality. They are creating a caricature of a liberal Democrat that bears little resemblance to Jackson herself.

“One thing that is striking about this hearing,” Lori Ringhand, a legal scholar, told The Times, “is how little effort we are seeing to engage the nominee on her views about actual legal issues.”
More on the hearings

After hours of patiently responding to accusations, Jackson displayed some pique at Hawley’s focus on pornography and later dabbed her eyes as Senator Cory Booker praised her life story.

A few Republican senators, including John Cornyn and Mike Lee, took a different approach, turning down the temperature to ask substantive questions.
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Had a very interesting discussion last night with my son, wife and mother on the topic of "what is a woman".

Putting aside that Blackburn's posturing, indeed all the culture war posturing, should have absolutely nothing to do with assessing the qualification, temperament etc of a SCOTUS nominee, the question itself is far more complicated than the simple-minded, culture warriors want people to believe.

Mini-lecture from my son, who has indeed studied genetics and biology, including it's implications in these areas, and it's clearly not a simple answer.

My wife recalled one of our good friends who had graduated #1 in her class at Tufts medical school yet decided to go into pediatrics, particularly emergency pediatrics. Huge volume of experience. She had recounted to us that easily 1.5-2% of the babies born in her experience, 1 or 2 out of 100, were totally ambiguous at birth as to "sex", often including partial expression of both male and female organs and that doctors had for many decades simply chosen, including often without the parents' knowledge, the "sex" of the baby, operating to 'make it so'.

This is but one form of how it definitely occurs that the genetic expression results in an unclear answer, but as my son explained, there are all sorts of small variations in the genes and their expression that result in a whole variety of differences, both directly observable, but also in the ways testosterone and other hormones is produced, the receptors receive those hormones, how the mind develops, what one is attracted to, how one feels within the identity that otherwise might seem obvious. Indeed, as he further explained, the 'error' rate of gene combinations, so useful to evolution, also explains how these small differences in gene expression happen outside what might otherwise be described as "normal"...the point is that these are very real differences, far from the simplistic man/woman binary paradigm.

However, he said that if one actually understands how genetics work, this is rather easy to explain.

So, when Jackson answers that she isn't a biologist or a geneticist, and then gets cut off by a posturing culture warrior, that culture warrior reaction grossly misses the complexity of an accurate answer. Of course, Blackburn didn't want an actual answer, she just wanted to mug for the cameras.

The child pornography/pedophile/QAnon stuff was even worse. Just incredibly gross.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:01 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:54 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:46 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:11 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:24 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:21 pm What's your answer? :roll:



Biologically, since Judge Jackson stated she’d need to consult one, an individual of the sex that is typically capable of bearing young or producing eggs.
When the first male to female gender reassignment has a vagina complete with all the female plumbing and can get knocked up... probably by a sperm donor in this forum, and can carry the baby for nine months, give traditional birth, find you have lactose in your breasts and can nurse your baby then I will believe a man can become a woman. This brilliant observation was made by my wife... Wouldn't a blow up doll be easier and less expensive? I guess this is where I have finally drawn a line in the sand. I understand why men love men and women love women. I have no issue with gay and nor should I. My good friend in HS was gay and in the mid 70s that was not acceptable especially in a Catholic HS. He was a guy living in the wrong era. He was a huge fan of silent movies and the big bands of the 30s and 40s. While most of us were listening to Aerosmith he was jamming to Paul Whiteman and his orchestra. Your born who god made you to be. I understand how that can be confusing for a lot of people. There is no surgery that can in reality change you from a man to a woman. You can do so cosmetically at great expense. If doing so makes you happy it is not my job to judge you.



Your wife seemingly has 100x the collective common sense of the entirety of Fanlax’ FLP.

:lol: :lol:
My wife also has first hand experience having been a RN who spent 6 months working for the anal dysplasia unit at Strong Memorial hospital. She worked every day with the gay and LBGTQ community. I was there on all those days she came home crying to me because she thought she was a failure as a nurse. None of the arrogant condescending FLP assholes on this forum never did a god damn thing to actually help anyone who struggled with the psych issues these people struggle with. I'm guessing NONE of them ever had their spouse come home and cry on their shoulder how angry and frustrated they were. The instincts of any nurse is to save lives. When doing your job becomes impossible, when one of the patients you spent hours on the phone with commits suicide.. it becomes personal and it takes a huge toll.
Over here dude….

So the peanut gallery posts stupid U tube videos to deflect from reality..... :lol: Why don't you express your opinion in your own words. That too hard for you to do?
You said “the instincts of any nurse is to save lives”….you really shouldn’t make absolute statements if you don’t have your fact sets straight. I have found that people that habitually do that are poorly educated. Ben Carson WAS a great surgeon. Rudy WAS a great prosecutor. Somewhere along the way, something happened. Maybe they got old and have become the person in your tag line.
Yup, was. He had great hand-eye coordination and motor control skills. He was not a great student nor the smartest in his profession, he was good enough to make use of his real physical talent, his gift, which is all that is required. He had an number of embarrassing moments during his 2016 run for the Presidency. He was caught in at least two cases of resume embellishment (lying), and a third suspected where it was impossible to know the truth but the resume item seemed apocryphal. His performance while at HUD was a further embarrassment.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:01 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:54 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:46 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:11 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:24 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:21 pm What's your answer? :roll:



Biologically, since Judge Jackson stated she’d need to consult one, an individual of the sex that is typically capable of bearing young or producing eggs.
When the first male to female gender reassignment has a vagina complete with all the female plumbing and can get knocked up... probably by a sperm donor in this forum, and can carry the baby for nine months, give traditional birth, find you have lactose in your breasts and can nurse your baby then I will believe a man can become a woman. This brilliant observation was made by my wife... Wouldn't a blow up doll be easier and less expensive? I guess this is where I have finally drawn a line in the sand. I understand why men love men and women love women. I have no issue with gay and nor should I. My good friend in HS was gay and in the mid 70s that was not acceptable especially in a Catholic HS. He was a guy living in the wrong era. He was a huge fan of silent movies and the big bands of the 30s and 40s. While most of us were listening to Aerosmith he was jamming to Paul Whiteman and his orchestra. Your born who god made you to be. I understand how that can be confusing for a lot of people. There is no surgery that can in reality change you from a man to a woman. You can do so cosmetically at great expense. If doing so makes you happy it is not my job to judge you.



Your wife seemingly has 100x the collective common sense of the entirety of Fanlax’ FLP.

:lol: :lol:
My wife also has first hand experience having been a RN who spent 6 months working for the anal dysplasia unit at Strong Memorial hospital. She worked every day with the gay and LBGTQ community. I was there on all those days she came home crying to me because she thought she was a failure as a nurse. None of the arrogant condescending FLP assholes on this forum never did a god damn thing to actually help anyone who struggled with the psych issues these people struggle with. I'm guessing NONE of them ever had their spouse come home and cry on their shoulder how angry and frustrated they were. The instincts of any nurse is to save lives. When doing your job becomes impossible, when one of the patients you spent hours on the phone with commits suicide.. it becomes personal and it takes a huge toll.
Over here dude….

So the peanut gallery posts stupid U tube videos to deflect from reality..... :lol: Why don't you express your opinion in your own words. That too hard for you to do?
You said “the instincts of any nurse is to save lives”….you really shouldn’t make absolute statements if you don’t have your fact sets straight. I have found that people that habitually do that are poorly educated. Ben Carson WAS a great surgeon. Rudy WAS a great prosecutor. Somewhere along the way, something happened. Maybe they got old and have become the person in your tag line.
Yup, was. He had great hand-eye coordination and motor control skills. He was not a great student nor the smartest in his profession, he was good enough to make use of his real physical talent, his gift, which is all that is required. He had an number of embarrassing moments during his 2016 run for the Presidency. He was caught in at least two cases of resume embellishment (lying), and a third suspected where it was impossible to know the truth but the resume item seemed apocryphal. His performance while at HUD was a further embarrassment.
Some rather ridiculous theories on Egyptian pyramids too...
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RedFromMI wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:09 am From today's NYT morning breifing:
Distorted Reality

Senate Republicans are painting a false portrait of Ketanji Brown Jackson.

By David Leonhardt
March 24, 2022
Updated 8:21 a.m. ET

Here are a few facts about Ketanji Brown Jackson:
  • She frequently associates herself with a patriotic narrative of American history. “The first of my many blessings,” she told the Senate this week, “is the fact that I was born in this great nation.”
  • She is not an advocate of critical race theory or other progressive ideas about education. She has never taken a public position on hot-button school issues like whether young children should be taught about gender identity.
  • As a federal judge, she has a mainstream record, broadly typical of a Democratic nominee. She has often praised law enforcement, including her proud mention this week that her brother and two of her uncles worked as police officers.
You might not know any of this — you might well believe the opposite — if you spent the past few days listening to Republican senators or consuming many conservative media sources.

Jackson’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing has turned into a case study of how disconnected from reality large parts of the Republican ecosystem have become. I know that description sounds harsh and will bother some conservative readers. But I think the facts warrant it.
Birtherism to pornography

The debate over Jackson’s nomination has often had little to do with her. It has become an argument over a nominee who does not exist — one who does not respect America, is not truly religious, coddles child abusers and terrorists and has highly developed views about the importance of “woke” education. Yesterday, conservative activists used this portrayal to pressure moderate Democratic senators to vote against Jackson.

Conspiracy theories and unfair accusations have a long history in American politics, of course. But they have often remained on the margins. Today, distortions and falsehoods have moved to the center of politics.

While neither party is entirely innocent, there is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats. False claims regularly flow from the leaders of the Republican Party — including its most recent president, several of its likely future presidential candidates and the most influential media figures aligned with the party.

Donald Trump began his political career by claiming that Barack Obama was born in Africa and ended his presidency with false accusations of voter fraud. Prominent Republicans regularly cast doubt on the fact that greenhouse gases are warming the planet and contributing to extreme weather. Disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines has been so widespread that almost 40 percent of Republican adults have not received a shot, sometimes with fatal consequences.

There is no comparable list of false information coming from senior members of the Democratic Party.

The Jackson hearings have become the latest example. Several Republican senators — including Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz yesterday — have tried to portray her as soft on child pornographers. Their argument depends on a misleading cherry-picking of facts from cases she has heard.

A useful debunking appeared this week in National Review, the conservative magazine, written by Andrew McCarthy, a former prosecutor who noted that he disagreed with Jackson on many legal matters. McCarthy also wrote that Hawley’s accusations were “meritless to the point of demagoguery” and “a smear.” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has pointed out that some Trump nominees had a similar record as Jackson in child-pornography cases, and that Hawley voted to confirm them.

Woke education has become another focus of the hearings, with Republicans like Cruz and Marsha Blackburn trying to portray Jackson as an advocate for it. In truth, she has not taken a position on the issues that fall under that category. Her sole — tenuous — connection to them is serving on the board of Georgetown Day School, an elite private school in Washington.

That was apparently enough for the Republican National Committee to tweet an image of her this week, with her initials — KBJ — crossed out and replaced with CRT, an abbreviation for critical race theory. (Much of the Republican criticism of Jackson probably would have applied to any nominee, regardless of race, but it is hard to imagine the same tweet about a white judge.)

The only time Jackson appears to have mentioned critical race theory publicly was in a 2015 speech. It was part of a list of disciplines that she said had an intellectual connection to criminal sentencing, including administrative law, philosophy, psychology and statistics.
A fairer critique

To be fair, Republicans are correct that many of the broader issues are legitimate matters of public debate. And on some of them, Republicans can make a credible case that progressive Democrats are to the left of public opinion (as Thomas Edsall, a Times Opinion columnist, explains).

Most Americans oppose cutting police budgets, for instance. Many believe that allowing all transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports can be unfair to other girls. Many voters — and not just white voters — think that liberals focus too much on racial identity. Most Americans feel proud of the country and its symbols, including those that some progressives consider racist, like Thanksgiving, the Constitution, the flag and George Washington.

But in trying to make Jackson a stand-in for these views, Republican senators are distorting reality. They are creating a caricature of a liberal Democrat that bears little resemblance to Jackson herself.

“One thing that is striking about this hearing,” Lori Ringhand, a legal scholar, told The Times, “is how little effort we are seeing to engage the nominee on her views about actual legal issues.”
More on the hearings

After hours of patiently responding to accusations, Jackson displayed some pique at Hawley’s focus on pornography and later dabbed her eyes as Senator Cory Booker praised her life story.

A few Republican senators, including John Cornyn and Mike Lee, took a different approach, turning down the temperature to ask substantive questions.
... I did not watch yesterday, but for a few minutes. But I saw enough on Tuesday to know the republicans lost. No one not a partisans partisan is going to buy the performance delivered by the republicans or the charges levied against the soon to be Justice. It was not well played by the republicans. Strategically it was dumb. There was nothing that hung in the balance, the court will be centered at pretty much the same place before and after her seating. There were lots of racist dog whistles that were caught by African Americans who watched the republican performance. This did not help the republicans in their efforts to woo these voters.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:01 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:54 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:46 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:11 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:24 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:21 pm What's your answer? :roll:



Biologically, since Judge Jackson stated she’d need to consult one, an individual of the sex that is typically capable of bearing young or producing eggs.
When the first male to female gender reassignment has a vagina complete with all the female plumbing and can get knocked up... probably by a sperm donor in this forum, and can carry the baby for nine months, give traditional birth, find you have lactose in your breasts and can nurse your baby then I will believe a man can become a woman. This brilliant observation was made by my wife... Wouldn't a blow up doll be easier and less expensive? I guess this is where I have finally drawn a line in the sand. I understand why men love men and women love women. I have no issue with gay and nor should I. My good friend in HS was gay and in the mid 70s that was not acceptable especially in a Catholic HS. He was a guy living in the wrong era. He was a huge fan of silent movies and the big bands of the 30s and 40s. While most of us were listening to Aerosmith he was jamming to Paul Whiteman and his orchestra. Your born who god made you to be. I understand how that can be confusing for a lot of people. There is no surgery that can in reality change you from a man to a woman. You can do so cosmetically at great expense. If doing so makes you happy it is not my job to judge you.



Your wife seemingly has 100x the collective common sense of the entirety of Fanlax’ FLP.

:lol: :lol:
My wife also has first hand experience having been a RN who spent 6 months working for the anal dysplasia unit at Strong Memorial hospital. She worked every day with the gay and LBGTQ community. I was there on all those days she came home crying to me because she thought she was a failure as a nurse. None of the arrogant condescending FLP assholes on this forum never did a god damn thing to actually help anyone who struggled with the psych issues these people struggle with. I'm guessing NONE of them ever had their spouse come home and cry on their shoulder how angry and frustrated they were. The instincts of any nurse is to save lives. When doing your job becomes impossible, when one of the patients you spent hours on the phone with commits suicide.. it becomes personal and it takes a huge toll.
Over here dude….

So the peanut gallery posts stupid U tube videos to deflect from reality..... :lol: Why don't you express your opinion in your own words. That too hard for you to do?
You said “the instincts of any nurse is to save lives”….you really shouldn’t make absolute statements if you don’t have your fact sets straight. I have found that people that habitually do that are poorly educated. Ben Carson WAS a great surgeon. Rudy WAS a great prosecutor. Somewhere along the way, something happened. Maybe they got old and have become the person in your tag line.
Yup, was. He had great hand-eye coordination and motor control skills. He was not a great student nor the smartest in his profession, he was good enough to make use of his real physical talent, his gift, which is all that is required. He had an number of embarrassing moments during his 2016 run for the Presidency. He was caught in at least two cases of resume embellishment (lying), and a third suspected where it was impossible to know the truth but the resume item seemed apocryphal. His performance while at HUD was a further embarrassment.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:09 am From today's NYT morning breifing:
Distorted Reality

Senate Republicans are painting a false portrait of Ketanji Brown Jackson.

By David Leonhardt
March 24, 2022
Updated 8:21 a.m. ET

Here are a few facts about Ketanji Brown Jackson:
  • She frequently associates herself with a patriotic narrative of American history. “The first of my many blessings,” she told the Senate this week, “is the fact that I was born in this great nation.”
  • She is not an advocate of critical race theory or other progressive ideas about education. She has never taken a public position on hot-button school issues like whether young children should be taught about gender identity.
  • As a federal judge, she has a mainstream record, broadly typical of a Democratic nominee. She has often praised law enforcement, including her proud mention this week that her brother and two of her uncles worked as police officers.
You might not know any of this — you might well believe the opposite — if you spent the past few days listening to Republican senators or consuming many conservative media sources.

Jackson’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing has turned into a case study of how disconnected from reality large parts of the Republican ecosystem have become. I know that description sounds harsh and will bother some conservative readers. But I think the facts warrant it.
Birtherism to pornography

The debate over Jackson’s nomination has often had little to do with her. It has become an argument over a nominee who does not exist — one who does not respect America, is not truly religious, coddles child abusers and terrorists and has highly developed views about the importance of “woke” education. Yesterday, conservative activists used this portrayal to pressure moderate Democratic senators to vote against Jackson.

Conspiracy theories and unfair accusations have a long history in American politics, of course. But they have often remained on the margins. Today, distortions and falsehoods have moved to the center of politics.

While neither party is entirely innocent, there is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats. False claims regularly flow from the leaders of the Republican Party — including its most recent president, several of its likely future presidential candidates and the most influential media figures aligned with the party.

Donald Trump began his political career by claiming that Barack Obama was born in Africa and ended his presidency with false accusations of voter fraud. Prominent Republicans regularly cast doubt on the fact that greenhouse gases are warming the planet and contributing to extreme weather. Disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines has been so widespread that almost 40 percent of Republican adults have not received a shot, sometimes with fatal consequences.

There is no comparable list of false information coming from senior members of the Democratic Party.

The Jackson hearings have become the latest example. Several Republican senators — including Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz yesterday — have tried to portray her as soft on child pornographers. Their argument depends on a misleading cherry-picking of facts from cases she has heard.

A useful debunking appeared this week in National Review, the conservative magazine, written by Andrew McCarthy, a former prosecutor who noted that he disagreed with Jackson on many legal matters. McCarthy also wrote that Hawley’s accusations were “meritless to the point of demagoguery” and “a smear.” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has pointed out that some Trump nominees had a similar record as Jackson in child-pornography cases, and that Hawley voted to confirm them.

Woke education has become another focus of the hearings, with Republicans like Cruz and Marsha Blackburn trying to portray Jackson as an advocate for it. In truth, she has not taken a position on the issues that fall under that category. Her sole — tenuous — connection to them is serving on the board of Georgetown Day School, an elite private school in Washington.

That was apparently enough for the Republican National Committee to tweet an image of her this week, with her initials — KBJ — crossed out and replaced with CRT, an abbreviation for critical race theory. (Much of the Republican criticism of Jackson probably would have applied to any nominee, regardless of race, but it is hard to imagine the same tweet about a white judge.)

The only time Jackson appears to have mentioned critical race theory publicly was in a 2015 speech. It was part of a list of disciplines that she said had an intellectual connection to criminal sentencing, including administrative law, philosophy, psychology and statistics.
A fairer critique

To be fair, Republicans are correct that many of the broader issues are legitimate matters of public debate. And on some of them, Republicans can make a credible case that progressive Democrats are to the left of public opinion (as Thomas Edsall, a Times Opinion columnist, explains).

Most Americans oppose cutting police budgets, for instance. Many believe that allowing all transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports can be unfair to other girls. Many voters — and not just white voters — think that liberals focus too much on racial identity. Most Americans feel proud of the country and its symbols, including those that some progressives consider racist, like Thanksgiving, the Constitution, the flag and George Washington.

But in trying to make Jackson a stand-in for these views, Republican senators are distorting reality. They are creating a caricature of a liberal Democrat that bears little resemblance to Jackson herself.

“One thing that is striking about this hearing,” Lori Ringhand, a legal scholar, told The Times, “is how little effort we are seeing to engage the nominee on her views about actual legal issues.”
More on the hearings

After hours of patiently responding to accusations, Jackson displayed some pique at Hawley’s focus on pornography and later dabbed her eyes as Senator Cory Booker praised her life story.

A few Republican senators, including John Cornyn and Mike Lee, took a different approach, turning down the temperature to ask substantive questions.
... I did not watch yesterday, but for a few minutes. But I saw enough on Tuesday to know the republicans lost. No one not a partisans partisan is going to buy the performance delivered by the republicans or the charges levied against the soon to be Justice. It was not well played by the republicans. Strategically it was dumb. There was nothing that hung in the balance, the court will be centered at pretty much the same place before and after her seating. There were lots of racist dog whistles that were caught by African Americans who watched the republican performance. This did not help the republicans in their efforts to woo these voters.
These people can’t help themselves. It’s actually sad.
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It is a shame the damage Carson has done to himself since 2015.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:14 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:09 am From today's NYT morning breifing:
Distorted Reality

Senate Republicans are painting a false portrait of Ketanji Brown Jackson.

By David Leonhardt
March 24, 2022
Updated 8:21 a.m. ET

Here are a few facts about Ketanji Brown Jackson:
  • She frequently associates herself with a patriotic narrative of American history. “The first of my many blessings,” she told the Senate this week, “is the fact that I was born in this great nation.”
  • She is not an advocate of critical race theory or other progressive ideas about education. She has never taken a public position on hot-button school issues like whether young children should be taught about gender identity.
  • As a federal judge, she has a mainstream record, broadly typical of a Democratic nominee. She has often praised law enforcement, including her proud mention this week that her brother and two of her uncles worked as police officers.
You might not know any of this — you might well believe the opposite — if you spent the past few days listening to Republican senators or consuming many conservative media sources.

Jackson’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing has turned into a case study of how disconnected from reality large parts of the Republican ecosystem have become. I know that description sounds harsh and will bother some conservative readers. But I think the facts warrant it.
Birtherism to pornography

The debate over Jackson’s nomination has often had little to do with her. It has become an argument over a nominee who does not exist — one who does not respect America, is not truly religious, coddles child abusers and terrorists and has highly developed views about the importance of “woke” education. Yesterday, conservative activists used this portrayal to pressure moderate Democratic senators to vote against Jackson.

Conspiracy theories and unfair accusations have a long history in American politics, of course. But they have often remained on the margins. Today, distortions and falsehoods have moved to the center of politics.

While neither party is entirely innocent, there is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats. False claims regularly flow from the leaders of the Republican Party — including its most recent president, several of its likely future presidential candidates and the most influential media figures aligned with the party.

Donald Trump began his political career by claiming that Barack Obama was born in Africa and ended his presidency with false accusations of voter fraud. Prominent Republicans regularly cast doubt on the fact that greenhouse gases are warming the planet and contributing to extreme weather. Disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines has been so widespread that almost 40 percent of Republican adults have not received a shot, sometimes with fatal consequences.

There is no comparable list of false information coming from senior members of the Democratic Party.

The Jackson hearings have become the latest example. Several Republican senators — including Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz yesterday — have tried to portray her as soft on child pornographers. Their argument depends on a misleading cherry-picking of facts from cases she has heard.

A useful debunking appeared this week in National Review, the conservative magazine, written by Andrew McCarthy, a former prosecutor who noted that he disagreed with Jackson on many legal matters. McCarthy also wrote that Hawley’s accusations were “meritless to the point of demagoguery” and “a smear.” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has pointed out that some Trump nominees had a similar record as Jackson in child-pornography cases, and that Hawley voted to confirm them.

Woke education has become another focus of the hearings, with Republicans like Cruz and Marsha Blackburn trying to portray Jackson as an advocate for it. In truth, she has not taken a position on the issues that fall under that category. Her sole — tenuous — connection to them is serving on the board of Georgetown Day School, an elite private school in Washington.

That was apparently enough for the Republican National Committee to tweet an image of her this week, with her initials — KBJ — crossed out and replaced with CRT, an abbreviation for critical race theory. (Much of the Republican criticism of Jackson probably would have applied to any nominee, regardless of race, but it is hard to imagine the same tweet about a white judge.)

The only time Jackson appears to have mentioned critical race theory publicly was in a 2015 speech. It was part of a list of disciplines that she said had an intellectual connection to criminal sentencing, including administrative law, philosophy, psychology and statistics.
A fairer critique

To be fair, Republicans are correct that many of the broader issues are legitimate matters of public debate. And on some of them, Republicans can make a credible case that progressive Democrats are to the left of public opinion (as Thomas Edsall, a Times Opinion columnist, explains).

Most Americans oppose cutting police budgets, for instance. Many believe that allowing all transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports can be unfair to other girls. Many voters — and not just white voters — think that liberals focus too much on racial identity. Most Americans feel proud of the country and its symbols, including those that some progressives consider racist, like Thanksgiving, the Constitution, the flag and George Washington.

But in trying to make Jackson a stand-in for these views, Republican senators are distorting reality. They are creating a caricature of a liberal Democrat that bears little resemblance to Jackson herself.

“One thing that is striking about this hearing,” Lori Ringhand, a legal scholar, told The Times, “is how little effort we are seeing to engage the nominee on her views about actual legal issues.”
More on the hearings

After hours of patiently responding to accusations, Jackson displayed some pique at Hawley’s focus on pornography and later dabbed her eyes as Senator Cory Booker praised her life story.

A few Republican senators, including John Cornyn and Mike Lee, took a different approach, turning down the temperature to ask substantive questions.
... I did not watch yesterday, but for a few minutes. But I saw enough on Tuesday to know the republicans lost. No one not a partisans partisan is going to buy the performance delivered by the republicans or the charges levied against the soon to be Justice. It was not well played by the republicans. Strategically it was dumb. There was nothing that hung in the balance, the court will be centered at pretty much the same place before and after her seating. There were lots of racist dog whistles that were caught by African Americans who watched the republican performance. This did not help the republicans in their efforts to woo these voters.
These people can’t help themselves. It’s actually sad.



How come white Democrats aren’t racist when questioning the intelligence of Ben Carson, Herschel Walker, etc, but white Republicans are racist when questioning the judicial record of Judge Jackson?
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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:22 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:14 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:09 am From today's NYT morning breifing:
Distorted Reality

Senate Republicans are painting a false portrait of Ketanji Brown Jackson.

By David Leonhardt
March 24, 2022
Updated 8:21 a.m. ET

Here are a few facts about Ketanji Brown Jackson:
  • She frequently associates herself with a patriotic narrative of American history. “The first of my many blessings,” she told the Senate this week, “is the fact that I was born in this great nation.”
  • She is not an advocate of critical race theory or other progressive ideas about education. She has never taken a public position on hot-button school issues like whether young children should be taught about gender identity.
  • As a federal judge, she has a mainstream record, broadly typical of a Democratic nominee. She has often praised law enforcement, including her proud mention this week that her brother and two of her uncles worked as police officers.
You might not know any of this — you might well believe the opposite — if you spent the past few days listening to Republican senators or consuming many conservative media sources.

Jackson’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing has turned into a case study of how disconnected from reality large parts of the Republican ecosystem have become. I know that description sounds harsh and will bother some conservative readers. But I think the facts warrant it.
Birtherism to pornography

The debate over Jackson’s nomination has often had little to do with her. It has become an argument over a nominee who does not exist — one who does not respect America, is not truly religious, coddles child abusers and terrorists and has highly developed views about the importance of “woke” education. Yesterday, conservative activists used this portrayal to pressure moderate Democratic senators to vote against Jackson.

Conspiracy theories and unfair accusations have a long history in American politics, of course. But they have often remained on the margins. Today, distortions and falsehoods have moved to the center of politics.

While neither party is entirely innocent, there is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats. False claims regularly flow from the leaders of the Republican Party — including its most recent president, several of its likely future presidential candidates and the most influential media figures aligned with the party.

Donald Trump began his political career by claiming that Barack Obama was born in Africa and ended his presidency with false accusations of voter fraud. Prominent Republicans regularly cast doubt on the fact that greenhouse gases are warming the planet and contributing to extreme weather. Disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines has been so widespread that almost 40 percent of Republican adults have not received a shot, sometimes with fatal consequences.

There is no comparable list of false information coming from senior members of the Democratic Party.

The Jackson hearings have become the latest example. Several Republican senators — including Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz yesterday — have tried to portray her as soft on child pornographers. Their argument depends on a misleading cherry-picking of facts from cases she has heard.

A useful debunking appeared this week in National Review, the conservative magazine, written by Andrew McCarthy, a former prosecutor who noted that he disagreed with Jackson on many legal matters. McCarthy also wrote that Hawley’s accusations were “meritless to the point of demagoguery” and “a smear.” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has pointed out that some Trump nominees had a similar record as Jackson in child-pornography cases, and that Hawley voted to confirm them.

Woke education has become another focus of the hearings, with Republicans like Cruz and Marsha Blackburn trying to portray Jackson as an advocate for it. In truth, she has not taken a position on the issues that fall under that category. Her sole — tenuous — connection to them is serving on the board of Georgetown Day School, an elite private school in Washington.

That was apparently enough for the Republican National Committee to tweet an image of her this week, with her initials — KBJ — crossed out and replaced with CRT, an abbreviation for critical race theory. (Much of the Republican criticism of Jackson probably would have applied to any nominee, regardless of race, but it is hard to imagine the same tweet about a white judge.)

The only time Jackson appears to have mentioned critical race theory publicly was in a 2015 speech. It was part of a list of disciplines that she said had an intellectual connection to criminal sentencing, including administrative law, philosophy, psychology and statistics.
A fairer critique

To be fair, Republicans are correct that many of the broader issues are legitimate matters of public debate. And on some of them, Republicans can make a credible case that progressive Democrats are to the left of public opinion (as Thomas Edsall, a Times Opinion columnist, explains).

Most Americans oppose cutting police budgets, for instance. Many believe that allowing all transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports can be unfair to other girls. Many voters — and not just white voters — think that liberals focus too much on racial identity. Most Americans feel proud of the country and its symbols, including those that some progressives consider racist, like Thanksgiving, the Constitution, the flag and George Washington.

But in trying to make Jackson a stand-in for these views, Republican senators are distorting reality. They are creating a caricature of a liberal Democrat that bears little resemblance to Jackson herself.

“One thing that is striking about this hearing,” Lori Ringhand, a legal scholar, told The Times, “is how little effort we are seeing to engage the nominee on her views about actual legal issues.”
More on the hearings

After hours of patiently responding to accusations, Jackson displayed some pique at Hawley’s focus on pornography and later dabbed her eyes as Senator Cory Booker praised her life story.

A few Republican senators, including John Cornyn and Mike Lee, took a different approach, turning down the temperature to ask substantive questions.
... I did not watch yesterday, but for a few minutes. But I saw enough on Tuesday to know the republicans lost. No one not a partisans partisan is going to buy the performance delivered by the republicans or the charges levied against the soon to be Justice. It was not well played by the republicans. Strategically it was dumb. There was nothing that hung in the balance, the court will be centered at pretty much the same place before and after her seating. There were lots of racist dog whistles that were caught by African Americans who watched the republican performance. This did not help the republicans in their efforts to woo these voters.
These people can’t help themselves. It’s actually sad.



How come white Democrats aren’t racist when questioning the intelligence of Ben Carson, Herschel Walker, etc, but white Republicans are racist when questioning the judicial record of Judge Jackson?
... in the words of Abraham Lincoln speaking to Mary Todd: "you know the words, but you can't carry a tune".
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:25 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:22 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:14 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:09 am From today's NYT morning breifing:
Distorted Reality

Senate Republicans are painting a false portrait of Ketanji Brown Jackson.

By David Leonhardt
March 24, 2022
Updated 8:21 a.m. ET

Here are a few facts about Ketanji Brown Jackson:
  • She frequently associates herself with a patriotic narrative of American history. “The first of my many blessings,” she told the Senate this week, “is the fact that I was born in this great nation.”
  • She is not an advocate of critical race theory or other progressive ideas about education. She has never taken a public position on hot-button school issues like whether young children should be taught about gender identity.
  • As a federal judge, she has a mainstream record, broadly typical of a Democratic nominee. She has often praised law enforcement, including her proud mention this week that her brother and two of her uncles worked as police officers.
You might not know any of this — you might well believe the opposite — if you spent the past few days listening to Republican senators or consuming many conservative media sources.

Jackson’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing has turned into a case study of how disconnected from reality large parts of the Republican ecosystem have become. I know that description sounds harsh and will bother some conservative readers. But I think the facts warrant it.
Birtherism to pornography

The debate over Jackson’s nomination has often had little to do with her. It has become an argument over a nominee who does not exist — one who does not respect America, is not truly religious, coddles child abusers and terrorists and has highly developed views about the importance of “woke” education. Yesterday, conservative activists used this portrayal to pressure moderate Democratic senators to vote against Jackson.

Conspiracy theories and unfair accusations have a long history in American politics, of course. But they have often remained on the margins. Today, distortions and falsehoods have moved to the center of politics.

While neither party is entirely innocent, there is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats. False claims regularly flow from the leaders of the Republican Party — including its most recent president, several of its likely future presidential candidates and the most influential media figures aligned with the party.

Donald Trump began his political career by claiming that Barack Obama was born in Africa and ended his presidency with false accusations of voter fraud. Prominent Republicans regularly cast doubt on the fact that greenhouse gases are warming the planet and contributing to extreme weather. Disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines has been so widespread that almost 40 percent of Republican adults have not received a shot, sometimes with fatal consequences.

There is no comparable list of false information coming from senior members of the Democratic Party.

The Jackson hearings have become the latest example. Several Republican senators — including Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz yesterday — have tried to portray her as soft on child pornographers. Their argument depends on a misleading cherry-picking of facts from cases she has heard.

A useful debunking appeared this week in National Review, the conservative magazine, written by Andrew McCarthy, a former prosecutor who noted that he disagreed with Jackson on many legal matters. McCarthy also wrote that Hawley’s accusations were “meritless to the point of demagoguery” and “a smear.” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has pointed out that some Trump nominees had a similar record as Jackson in child-pornography cases, and that Hawley voted to confirm them.

Woke education has become another focus of the hearings, with Republicans like Cruz and Marsha Blackburn trying to portray Jackson as an advocate for it. In truth, she has not taken a position on the issues that fall under that category. Her sole — tenuous — connection to them is serving on the board of Georgetown Day School, an elite private school in Washington.

That was apparently enough for the Republican National Committee to tweet an image of her this week, with her initials — KBJ — crossed out and replaced with CRT, an abbreviation for critical race theory. (Much of the Republican criticism of Jackson probably would have applied to any nominee, regardless of race, but it is hard to imagine the same tweet about a white judge.)

The only time Jackson appears to have mentioned critical race theory publicly was in a 2015 speech. It was part of a list of disciplines that she said had an intellectual connection to criminal sentencing, including administrative law, philosophy, psychology and statistics.
A fairer critique

To be fair, Republicans are correct that many of the broader issues are legitimate matters of public debate. And on some of them, Republicans can make a credible case that progressive Democrats are to the left of public opinion (as Thomas Edsall, a Times Opinion columnist, explains).

Most Americans oppose cutting police budgets, for instance. Many believe that allowing all transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports can be unfair to other girls. Many voters — and not just white voters — think that liberals focus too much on racial identity. Most Americans feel proud of the country and its symbols, including those that some progressives consider racist, like Thanksgiving, the Constitution, the flag and George Washington.

But in trying to make Jackson a stand-in for these views, Republican senators are distorting reality. They are creating a caricature of a liberal Democrat that bears little resemblance to Jackson herself.

“One thing that is striking about this hearing,” Lori Ringhand, a legal scholar, told The Times, “is how little effort we are seeing to engage the nominee on her views about actual legal issues.”
More on the hearings

After hours of patiently responding to accusations, Jackson displayed some pique at Hawley’s focus on pornography and later dabbed her eyes as Senator Cory Booker praised her life story.

A few Republican senators, including John Cornyn and Mike Lee, took a different approach, turning down the temperature to ask substantive questions.
... I did not watch yesterday, but for a few minutes. But I saw enough on Tuesday to know the republicans lost. No one not a partisans partisan is going to buy the performance delivered by the republicans or the charges levied against the soon to be Justice. It was not well played by the republicans. Strategically it was dumb. There was nothing that hung in the balance, the court will be centered at pretty much the same place before and after her seating. There were lots of racist dog whistles that were caught by African Americans who watched the republican performance. This did not help the republicans in their efforts to woo these voters.
These people can’t help themselves. It’s actually sad.
How come white Democrats aren’t racist when questioning the intelligence of Ben Carson, Herschel Walker, etc, but white Republicans are racist when questioning the judicial record of Judge Jackson?
... in the words of Abraham Lincoln speaking to Mary Todd: "you know the words, but you can't carry a tune".



Speak to me as if I’m as dumb as you say Ben Carson and Herschel Walker (and thousands of other black Republicans) are…I don’t understand the quote.
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Hardly what the religious right had in mind. Gotta love unintended consequences. :lol: :lol:
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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:38 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:00 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:33 am
Kismet wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:21 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:12 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:02 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:58 pm Openly admit I have not watched a minute of hearing, seems some have called into question rulings on child porn. Some have requested docs on her rulings WRT child porn & Durbin claims this can out in jeopardy those In these cases.

Seems like a fair bone to pick, no?
Are you going to pretend you don't know why.....of all issues...they chose this one, YA?
No pretending going on. Seems this is a legal merit based question, not a hypothetical that requires if she drank beers or went to a party. It’s why I asked. If it’s a stupid point they are bringing up....then aoo ok be it, again, why I asked.
She was before the same panel about a year ago and was easily confirmed with Republican support. None of them brought up all this garbage then....ever wonder why that is? Three guesses and the first two don't count. ;)

Ironically she gave the Pizzagate child porn QAnon guy four years in a Federal lockup for shooting up the place. :oops:



The question of ‘what is a woman’ wasn’t raised a year ago because Democrats hadn’t quite swallowed their Marxist looney pills regarding trans folks competing in girls sports. Now that they have, it’s time to ask every leftist lunatic judge if they can answer a very simple question: what is a woman?

They won’t answer of course, because the end game is to upend the natural order of things, biological sexes included, and judges are the tip of the spear to deny nature and normalcy.

It’s really something watching Democrats torpedo their voter popularity with this maniacal quest to subvert normalcy and upend society. Keep it up though! All the way through November 8!

More leftist lunacy yesterday, with NYC’s Health Commissioner refusing to call women ‘women’, just “birthing people”. These bozos are going or get their arses handed to them so hard this fall. Total clowns, unfit for leadership.



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Great...........the party of sameness and TAATS......get's to choose the "speaker".

Now what?

you gonna complain that the GOP "majority" can't pass any "bills" b/c they afraid Biden will "veto" them ? :lol:



Divided government actually tends to work best in America.
yeah, LOVE reading that part about "divided" and ONLY a two party system....in the US Constitution.

Only, we can never get past Article 1......and the purpose of having a decadal US census.....to figure out how many MORE members of Congress are needed to REPRESENT the Citizens.........it's ALL write there to read.......

what IS that ? just like the pathetic idea of "god", the US Constitution doesn't mention anything political parties, either.

carry one.........
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:01 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:22 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:36 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:58 pm
jhu72 wrote:
dislaxxic wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:30 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:24 amFunny how Dr Ben Carson was a gifted neonatal pediatric surgeon also married to the same woman for many years. I wonder why the pasty faced, mean spirited angry white old liberals on this forum eviscerated him every day. FTR, Ben Carson is also a black man. His downfall was he is the wrong shade of black for the angry, hate filled very old and decrepit white liberal men on this forum. You can't be black and conservative, not in the eyes of you angry old white liberals. Black Americans are suppose to look forward to all the crumbs you hand them in the form of entitlements and say thanka masta while they lick your boot.
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See, there's who you THINK some people are, then there's who they might REALLY be...

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... Ben Carson is a nutter. It doesn't matter what color you are, a nutter is a nutter, when making statements like Carson did; "My mother raised me with no help from the government. We had food stamps and welfare and Section 8 housing, but we made it on our own" :lol: :lol:
And your an angry, disgruntled FLP racist. You know exactly what Dr Carson was say. In your eyes a black conservative. The person your ilk fears the most a black man that can think and provide for himself and succeed on the highest levels of his profession. In simple terms... Dr Carson is the wrong shade of black..he does not need FLP folks like yourself. Good for him. Bad for you... His family accepted help from the government and the taxpayers when they were struggling and the assistance. They didn't become DEPENDENT on the government which is the point of every entitlement program. When you instill the perceived reality into peoples heads that they can't survive without help from the government... Every FLP type smiles just a little brighter. You NEED us and you know it...
... and as usual, you are full of sh*t. His summary statement was untrue and certainly inarticulate for someone as supposedly bright as he. :roll:
As usual you have proven yourself to be an angry, hate filled PhD level racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. Dr Carson saved the lives of countless newborn infants. You mock and ridicule a talented black surgeon. So what have YOU done in your lifes work??? How many lives have you saved? The stage is all yours Doc. This is the perfect opportunity to enlighten every poster here where you have made a difference via your lifetime body of work. Compare your accomplishments to Dr Carsons. How many lives have you saved?? So tell us where you have made a difference??? Your arrogant enough Doc, tooting your own horn should come very naturally to you.

If you want to see a man who is full of chit...look in the mirror.
... I am not going to play your stupid little game. I feel quite comfortable in the life I have lived, the lives I have impacted and the good I have done. I am a happy contented man as I approach the end of my career and ultimately days. I suggest you look in the mirror, because if anyone on this forum is an angry, hate filled individual, it would be you. It is obvious in your writing, you are a jealous individual who spends much of his time feeling inferior, not having a college education clearly bothers the sh*t out of you. You obviously feel that fact has held you back, that others you feel less worthy have passed you by in their success.
You still can't explain why you hate black men like Ben Carson?? what did he ever do to you?? FTR your PhD has not given you much insight into human nature. If you were staring at your ass and a hole in the ground you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. :D We do have one thing in common, we are both very comfortable with the lives we made for ourselves. My little 20' x 60' foot vegetable garden gives me all the satisfaction I need in life. Why would I be jealous for not going to college? That was my decision. For all i know a college education would have transformed me into something resembling YOU. :lol: :lol: :lol: That is a risk i am very happy I did not take.
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“I wish you would!”
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:31 pm https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/virgin ... -election/

Clarence’s Wifey……. :lol: :lol:
Wait. The spouse of a sitting Supreme Court Justice was working and advocating for an extralegal overthrow of the elected President of the United States? Man, “Conservatives” must be enraged.
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