InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pm
Compare the accomplishments of RIT PRE-Coon to the accomplishments of Tufts PRE-D’Annolfo. Compare their resumes prior to getting those jobs as well. Anyways.
In case it's unclear...the point has never been to compare D'Annolfo and Coon against each other or to say that D'Annolfo is a better coach. The point is that burying a coach whose teams win 18+ games and are a threat to win a title every year doesn't make sense. I brought up Coon at RIT to point out how similar his start was to D'Annolfo's at Tufts - but with even worse playoff flameouts than Tufts has had - and, again, to point out how silly I think it is to criticize guys whose teams win at this level but don't finish their season holding the trophy. What RIT looked like before Coon took over isn't really relevant (though FWIW RIT was a very good program). There's always a bit of a grace period, but after that point his - and every coach's - teams should be measured against their own expectations.
As a sidebar: what Daly did at Tufts is something that literally only a handful of people have ever accomplished at the D-III level. I don't think that's a reasonable standard at all. Middlebury won three titles (six CGs) but has been a middle of the pack NESCAC team for years. Nazareth won three titles (six CGs) and is completely irrelevant now. Cortland won two titles (seven CGs) and is now a fringe top 25 team. Sustaining success at the level we're talking about is really,
really hard. It's even harder when your team plays in the toughest conference in the country. It just doesn't check out to say that what Tufts has done since Daly left is some massive failure.
DeepPocket wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 pm
At minimum, the two people arguing which coach’s success has been
more a direct result of their own abilities.
Just to clarify, that's never been my argument. My argument is just with the idea that D'Annolfo is "the most overrated coach in America" or "a horrible coach". You can't win at the level Tufts does - especially given the conference they play in - without being a very good coach. That's all. I also think this stuff seems more about personal dislike than anything on the field, but that's a separate conversation.