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Warrior62
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With Queens location facilities and academics no reason to not be competing for SAC title every year. In 16 they played mostly freshmen and lost by a goal late to LR. Coaching changes in 17 made at Queens and Wingate made the difference. Queens also brought in a strong class in 17 to add to freshman class . Wingate and LR have pulled away , Queens has stayed the same and as those young guys have graduated they have not brought in players to really replace. Time for a change?
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Warrior62 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:59 am With Queens location facilities and academics no reason to not be competing for SAC title every year. In 16 they played mostly freshmen and lost by a goal late to LR. Coaching changes in 17 made at Queens and Wingate made the difference. Queens also brought in a strong class in 17 to add to freshman class . Wingate and LR have pulled away , Queens has stayed the same and as those young guys have graduated they have not brought in players to really replace. Time for a change?
I do agree that Queens has the location and academics that make it a desirable choice. Facilities is iffy in my mind. They play/practice in a stadium that is a 10 minute drive from campus. They also don't have as large of a strength&conditioning facility due to the lack of football.

Also in 2017 they upset an LR team in the SAC tournament semis in overtime 10-9 after losing to big in 17-8 in the regular season with a team of a lot of freshmen during Coach Kivlen's 1st year (Coach Panos was the top assistant there in 2017 and 2018 before taking over as the head coach in the summer of 2018). Queens lost to LR in 12-11 in double OT in the regular season and 10-9 in the SAC championship game in 2016 with a very veteran team in Coach Fritz final year at Queens.
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The Queens facility is at the edge of a county/city park and was located there due to lack of on-campus space. A pretty decent facility even if a bit of a drive (the time to get there reflects local Charlotte traffic, not a long distance). The field/stadium is shared with soccer, and field hockey has its own special turf field at the same location.

Given the well known desire of Queens to transition to DI (as is the intent of Lincoln Memorial) they need to up their game to avoid being mired in the bottom of DI should that transition occur.
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RedFromMI wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:35 pm The Queens facility is at the edge of a county/city park and was located there due to lack of on-campus space. A pretty decent facility even if a bit of a drive (the time to get there reflects local Charlotte traffic, not a long distance). The field/stadium is shared with soccer, and field hockey has its own special turf field at the same location.

Given the well known desire of Queens to transition to DI (as is the intent of Lincoln Memorial) they need to up their game to avoid being mired in the bottom of DI should that transition occur.
I've absolutely heard the rumor that Queens and LMU want to transition to D1. Have also heard rumblings that Wingate is exploring its options as well-the school has grown considerably in the last 15 years...
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Conference preseason team poll is out along with preseason all conference players.

https://thesac.com/sports/mlax/2021-22/ ... 0127dtmbz7
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How did Queens do against Mercer this past weekend?
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Final Mercer 12-10. Queens looked good, however hard to tell by the score. Queens was the second game of the day for Mercer. Starting goalie and some other starters did not play. By 2nd half 2nd string was in. Score was 7-2 at half. 3rd and 4th Qtrs saw lower class-men play. Queens began to climb back in it, but Mercer held on. Mercer did not have any fall scrimmages so this was the first real game experience for their 2nd/3rd string.
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Queens losing to LR w a veteran team in 16 is not accurate. A few key seniors and upperclassmen but majority of starters were freshman. Injuries also played a part but still finished w double digit wins. 17 team had a bunch if freshman plus all this now sophomores who played in 16 and some key seniors. Losing to Mercer backups not looking good if your move is to D 1 .
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Lees McRae beat Catawba 12-11 in a scrimmage last night
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Lees McRae over Catawba is interesting even if it is a scrimmage.
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Queens announces its offially looking at move to D 1. This will be bad for lacrosse. Program doesn't get support it needs now and it shows last few years they have not been as good. I wouldn't be surprised if lacrosse gets dropped in future if school goes D 1
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Warrior62 wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:06 am Queens announces its offially looking at move to D 1. This will be bad for lacrosse. Program doesn't get support it needs now and it shows last few years they have not been as good. I wouldn't be surprised if lacrosse gets dropped in future if school goes D 1
It might get interesting, especially since the women's program is top five for some time now. And without football, there is no need to cut men's sports due to Title IX.
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They are talking about adding football something they looked at before a d may need to add to be in a conference
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Warrior62 wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:20 am They are talking about adding football something they looked at before a d may need to add to be in a conference
Certainly having football adds attractiveness if you can fund to 65 scholarships, lease a field (don't think in Charlotte you would have to build to start) and buy equipment and hire coaches.

But at about $53K for COA, you are looking at a budget of about 3.5 million just for the scholarships. There may be some deep pockets in the area who would be willing to come up with that sum or more for a move to D1.
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Five SAC teams in this weeks USALaxMagazine.com Top 20 - Congrats to Newberry for jumping in this week - well deserved after your win over Mount Olive and close games with Queens and UIndy
Wingate (4), Limestone (9), Queens (13), Lenoir Rhyne (14), Newberry (15)
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After loss Queens will drop. What is going on at Catawba used to be in the mix now they are a bottom dweller?
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greatwhitenorth wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:30 pm Five SAC teams in this weeks USALaxMagazine.com Top 20 - Congrats to Newberry for jumping in this week - well deserved after your win over Mount Olive and close games with Queens and UIndy
Wingate (4), Limestone (9), Queens (13), Lenoir Rhyne (14), Newberry (15)
USILA (all rankings current ones as of today):

4. Wingate 5-1, loss to #1 Le Moyne 15-11. Wins over #8 Mercyhurst 16-12, #20T Mount Olive 15-8, #7 Limestone 11-10 OT.
7. Limestone 5-1, loss to #3 Wingate 11-10 OT. Wins over RV Belmont Abbey 20-9, #16 Florida Southern 12-11, #12 Lindenwood 13-8, #14 Lenoir-Rhyne 13-3.
14. Lenoir-Rhyne 4-3, losses to #4 Indy 12-11, #2 Tampa 13-8, #7 Limestone 13-3. Wins over #13 Florida Tech 13-8, RV Belmont Abbey 10-6.
15. Queens 4-1, loss to RV Belmont Abbey 10-6. Wins over #20T Mount Olive 16-6, #18 Newberry 16-12.
18. Newberry 4-2, losses to #4 Indy 15-8, #15 Queens 16-12. Wins over #20T Mount Olive 13-12, RV Tusculum 23-17.
Anderson (3) and Tusculum (1) receiving votes.
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what is going on with Lenoir Rhyne - big loss to Limestone
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greatwhitenorth wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:07 pm what is going on with Lenoir Rhyne - big loss to Limestone
They graduated their best player in program history, it's going to take some time to work out the kinks of losing him.

Le Moyne had them figured out in the national championship, and from what I have watched, Limestone and Tampa look to have followed the same game plan.
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By kinks, you mean recruiting? They had 4 years to figure out that he was going to graduate and have to replace him. Sounds like an excuse to me!
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