Who pays for the academic advisors? do they get separate housing from the rest of campus as is commonplace now? Is their split admissions to allow these folks as students since they don’t mostly qualify under typical admissions? What about board which is often unique and separate?HooDat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:33 amEXACTLY my point! They pay cash tuition and room and board. They stop playing for the "team" and they can figure out another way to pay.... Not saying its something I think is "right" - just saying it is the logical conclusion of the path we are on.44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:42 pmBut under the assumption that the FBall and BBall players are well paid (as in have a job, not work-study), they do not need to complete a FAFSA, because they do not require Financial Aid.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:39 pmIf I see a pool of football dudes making $xxx,xxx in their fafsa and related aid docs and then see the entire pool of students which is easy to stratify then as a civil rights investigator I’m going to dig for more info. Ties back to proportionality. That’s where it gets complicated. There’s a lot of record kept that seem superfluous until that one time it’s needed or it costs tens of millions of dollars.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:31 pmColleges have complete records of, for example, summer jobs that students held?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:58 pm I think the DOJ or feds can come in and demand any records they want if they want as it pertains to civil rights. A college caught not having it will have problems I can guarantee.
Right....things that apply to ALL students will work. Good point here. They'll have that....assuming kids get aid, and report their jobs while attending school. I don't remember doing that, and I worked all during college....but that was a loooooong time ago.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:58 pm And of course for calculating financial aid they’ll have record of student income.
But those are just numbers...nothing saying where that income came from, correct?
This makes some sense as separation but I think executing a formal split that’s truly clean and leaves no fingerprints on the institution is far more difficult in execution and I would expect a college administration cohort to execute it well in general which would leave chasms for potential narrowly observed conflicts or overlaps.
Who determines fair market value of stadium and facility leases? That would be open to challenges. The transfer pricing and college accounting is such a joke that I don’t think folks appreciate the difficulty in unwinding it would be. You’ve got municipal finance, SEC and MSRB looking at it potentially.
What about tax breaks to non profit higher Ed institutions? Any event edit that flows through ties then back to the institution including the tax exemption in the bond funding.
I don’t know but the idea that colleges can hive it off clean and still have the economic incentive to support these monstrosities without any oversight, control or accountability seems specious. The answer I see that it’ll be easy or whatever sound like my banker colleagues (I’m out now myself from that racket) who model and pitch M&A deals on excel and ppt but the outcomes never seem to look anything like the model. It’s lacking any respect for operations and execution which we know in general these institutions are often not very good at.