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jerseyjames wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:56 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:47 pm
wgdsr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:55 pm
1766 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:15 pm Couple of things:
2) Kirst is still in play for another year. Unless you've been living under a rock, the new, softer NCAA is almost a rubber stamp to allow these late date redshirts. It's certainly not a done deal yet, but if it happens, don't be at all surprised.

If he comes back, with all that is coming back on defense, including new additions, throwing Kirst back in goal will have that side of the ball as one of the best in the country.
under what rule or exception would connor kirst be coming back to play? if you know.
This guy HATES the idea of *Colin Kirst coming back for another year, idk who peed in your cherrios. Kid finally found a home and got in opportunity in the same crease his dad used to play in but wgdsr won't stand for it unless he gets 6 points of ID on why this kid should get an extra year in a time where it has never been easier to get an extra year in the history of the NCAA...
no idea why you think i have any problem with him or anyone else getting a year that's within the rules (which will be the only way he gets one).
the subject has been brought up. repeatedly and vaguely. should we not ask what the angle is?
The NCAA made modifications to rules on what constitutes a season and made it easier for the athlete to play more, ie the transfer portal as well (probably a ploy to distract from the pay the player discussion, I digress) Art Sitkowski the RU starting QB a few years ago STARTED the first 4 or 5 games of the season before Ash was fired, withdrew from the team midseason to preserve a year of eligibility so if were talking about 19 min in Feb yea I think the kid isn't gonna have a problem getting that year back... So I can't give you the exact bylaw or the section and sub section of the rule but things like this happen often in recent years
Football changed the rules though to allow players to play in 4 games and still redshirt. To my knowledge lacrosse did not have such a similar rule change.
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jrn19 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:20 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:56 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:47 pm
wgdsr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:55 pm
1766 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:15 pm Couple of things:
2) Kirst is still in play for another year. Unless you've been living under a rock, the new, softer NCAA is almost a rubber stamp to allow these late date redshirts. It's certainly not a done deal yet, but if it happens, don't be at all surprised.

If he comes back, with all that is coming back on defense, including new additions, throwing Kirst back in goal will have that side of the ball as one of the best in the country.
under what rule or exception would connor kirst be coming back to play? if you know.
This guy HATES the idea of *Colin Kirst coming back for another year, idk who peed in your cherrios. Kid finally found a home and got in opportunity in the same crease his dad used to play in but wgdsr won't stand for it unless he gets 6 points of ID on why this kid should get an extra year in a time where it has never been easier to get an extra year in the history of the NCAA...
no idea why you think i have any problem with him or anyone else getting a year that's within the rules (which will be the only way he gets one).
the subject has been brought up. repeatedly and vaguely. should we not ask what the angle is?
The NCAA made modifications to rules on what constitutes a season and made it easier for the athlete to play more, ie the transfer portal as well (probably a ploy to distract from the pay the player discussion, I digress) Art Sitkowski the RU starting QB a few years ago STARTED the first 4 or 5 games of the season before Ash was fired, withdrew from the team midseason to preserve a year of eligibility so if were talking about 19 min in Feb yea I think the kid isn't gonna have a problem getting that year back... So I can't give you the exact bylaw or the section and sub section of the rule but things like this happen often in recent years
Football changed the rules though to allow players to play in 4 games and still redshirt. To my knowledge lacrosse did not have such a similar rule change.
don't pee in his cheerios.
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HopFan16 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:14 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:08 pm
InsiderRoll wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm Hearing about a big lefty attackman
Speaking of the Kirsts, could it be :shock:
Probably Notre Dame’s Connor Morin, who is also originally from NJ
Very good call, was thinking he would be a good fit when his name was announced to be looking
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As always, we will see.
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As always wd, we will see.
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InsiderRoll wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm Hearing about a big lefty attackman
And you heard about the stadium. Again.
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Houndfan73 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:21 am
InsiderRoll wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm Hearing about a big lefty attackman
And you heard about the stadium. Again.
Don't sleep on Ronan Jacoby coming in and filling that spot.
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InsiderRoll wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm Hearing about a big lefty attackman
Announcement forthcoming.
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1766 wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:10 pm
InsiderRoll wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm Hearing about a big lefty attackman
Announcement forthcoming.
Nanticoke?
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You don’t want to go there!
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So this would be the 6th transfer?
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Here is the announcement: It's Morin.

And yes, that makes 6.

So far.
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1766 wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:10 pm
InsiderRoll wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm Hearing about a big lefty attackman
Announcement forthcoming.
Brian Cameron?
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pcowlax wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:50 pm You don’t want to go there!
Rutgers is desperate to be legit, but haven’t been yet…….Nanticoke is an obvious pick for them if they have any room at all & can swing it.
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Sounds like Brecht is doing very well in portal. On paper, it is far better than last year's haul. Remember, Colin kirst was the BACKUP goalie at lehigh. The 6 players we have gotten from this year's portal are proven at this level. The difference is we need to replace Mullins and charalambides this time around. I have been against the portal in the past as the blue bloods have been cherry picking the best players. Brecht's use of the portal this and last year, however, has saved his job.
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blue angels wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:15 pm
pcowlax wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:50 pm You don’t want to go there!
Rutgers is desperate to be legit, but haven’t been yet…….Nanticoke is an obvious pick for them if they have any room at all & can swing it.
Rutgers was legit this year...really good team, top 5-7, right in the mix...there were only a small handful of teams better, but they were legit...

Now, I'll agree that Rutgers is desperate to gain staying power...as a program. I'll assume they liked how it felt to be in the top 6-10 all year, make the tourney, compete with the best falling just short of championship weekend...all that is fun...so I will agree they're desperate to build on it and try to create some staying power...

Problem is that's very difficult to do over time...only a handful of historical power programs are built to do it year over year...a handful...

I give Brecht and RU credit for trying to build...but it's a tough mountain to climb

It will be interesting to see where Nanticoke ends up...
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Laxfan#1969 wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:54 am
blue angels wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:15 pm
pcowlax wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:50 pm You don’t want to go there!
Rutgers is desperate to be legit, but haven’t been yet…….Nanticoke is an obvious pick for them if they have any room at all & can swing it.
Rutgers was legit this year...really good team, top 5-7, right in the mix...there were only a small handful of teams better, but they were legit...

Now, I'll agree that Rutgers is desperate to gain staying power...as a program. I'll assume they liked how it felt to be in the top 6-10 all year, make the tourney, compete with the best falling just short of championship weekend...all that is fun...so I will agree they're desperate to build on it and try to create some staying power...

Problem is that's very difficult to do over time...only a handful of historical power programs are built to do it year over year...a handful...

I give Brecht and RU credit for trying to build...but it's a tough mountain to climb

It will be interesting to see where Nanticoke ends up...
They did a fantastic job with this team. Now they are going all in on the transfer strategy. It’s a gamble that will either give them a similar year, or rip the locker room in half and have them at the bottom of the league. They’ve effectively tripled the number of grad transfers this year, problem is they haven’t added anyone “elite”. Connor Kirst was elite coming in, he was 2020 IL 1st Team All-American. Colin Kirst thrived and was one of the biggest surprises in country. They’ve added some good players so far this summer, but college athletics isn’t like a game of Madden. There are complex relationships and people involved. The current players may not actually be thrilled about an influx of grad transfers. Time will tell but Rutgers will likely be one end of the spectrum or the other. I’ve heard Dukes Locker Room was completely divided, they just had elite talent to push through it. But they clearly never hit their full potential.

In regards to Nanticoke, I can’t imagine a Big Ten team adding a player that was kicked off the team at Albany, hated by his teammates, and described as a cancer to the program. Add in that as flashy and talented as he was, he hasn’t even been all that good of a college player. Big gamble.
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I’m guessing Tehoka’s teammates liked Tehoka just
fine in 2018, when Albany reached the Final Four.
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10stone5 wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:19 am I’m guessing Tehoka’s teammates liked Tehoka just
fine in 2018, when Albany reached the Final Four.
I think that had a lot more to do with TD Ierlan and Connor Fields.

Brecht is just thirsty enough for transfers to kick the tires on Nanticoke, but ultimately I agree with InsiderRoll—I doubt he joins a Big Ten team or any major D1 team for that matter.
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HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:22 am
10stone5 wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:19 am I’m guessing Tehoka’s teammates liked Tehoka just
fine in 2018, when Albany reached the Final Four.
I think that had a lot more to do with TD Ierlan and Connor Fields.

Brecht is just thirsty enough for transfers to kick the tires on Nanticoke, but ultimately I agree with InsiderRoll—I doubt he joins a Big Ten team or any major D1 team for that matter.
Hmmm...... Have you seen some of the sketchy players in the Big 10 football factory programs? It might not work at HOP, but wouldn't think the barriers to entry would be very high for what is perceived as a difference maker.
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