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OS - How about Crozier go to NAS Fallon in beautiful Fallon, NV. Top Gun is there. The town has great people, small and quaint. 60 miles to Reno. The ranchers love when the jets go screaming by just make sure the cows are not buzzed as they do not like that. Plenty of dirt and sagebrush to fire at w...

Far/MD - last post here, Far if you think your relative is blowing smoke up skirts, ask him a few questions, you will find out pretty quickly if he claims he did or is what he claims. Second it is not uncommon for the lower pay-grade enlisted folks to have 2nd jobs. The reality is they do not get pa...

Bart, If you are reading this thread and not the other thread. There are two good examples of people I would not want to be stuck in bad situations with. BTW CU, the military has operated this was for a very long time. You get no brownie points for coming home dead and you nor MD have any clue where...

Far, Any good officer is relying on his senior NCO's - they know the heartbeat; As stated if you think you are being given an illegal order - you have every right to jump as high as you want. The SS is NOT the US Military. The US Military does not operate that way nor at least in my lifetime it ever...

MD, Quote away still leaves you where you were. You can bit$h, moan, scream and call your teammates a d-bag, but you are still in the same situation. Work the problem, do NOT make the problem worse. The Captain made the problem worse, the SecofNavy made it more worse and the news media and you piled...

Far, Modley did himself and the Navy a disservice with his commentary. I thought I was clear about that BUT they BOTH got emotional and that cannot happen. Two USNA grads that your tax dollars paid for relieved and rightly so. Modley's speech was unwarranted and I am assuming it was pure emotions. S...

MD, The IG which TLD was speaking was the IG who started the whole Ukraine mess - did I get that to your satisfaction? Funny on you. You over analyze too much. You are trying to justify what a Captain did by revealing confidential information, battle information and compromising the ship, his crew, ...

TLD,
What is a good laugh is you and MD in circular thinking DT as pinned as the guy who fired the Captain and is creating havoc on the Navy. So what an IG gets canned, has it ever happened before?

MD, BTW, you are a ground commander. Your best asset is flying over your head. Now an asset is off the table with a CAG group because a Beavis decides he is NOT liking the answers even though he has the personal cell of the SECofNavy, he is the back-up to the back-up. You go into a bad situation - b...

MD, Go to Syria how about Iraq then journey over to Afghanistan stop by Iran and say hi and hit Libya along the way. The Captain compromised his ship, his crew and the USN. Along the way to going nuclear, he compromised the flipping whole military, You and others think this is pity potty - you will ...

Far, IMHO you have two issues. 1. A Captain who leaked probably classified information as he thought he was not getting the answers he liked......but I have no idea nor does anyone else out here. You can and it is proper that if an order is given to you, you deem it illegal, jump the Chain, no one w...

Far, Your relatives live about 90 minutes away. I think we are all pretty humble but this hit a cord. DMac was on a boat that frankly I puked on more then once, OS, I do not understand the left hand and the right hand. Others no idea, I do know you keep your trap shut and do the job. Google General ...

MD, 28 years and still a Captain - yep his career was over. Who cares where the carrier was - do you know where it was headed? BTW, when you take an asset like that off-line, someone needs to step up.....what are you going to do with those assets, Army, Marines, Navy and AF on the ground????????? Un...

MD, I obviously did a fly-over. NO ONE is criticizing the Captain for taking care of his crew. Please stop thinking that is the issue. You are trained to do what you have to do to bring everyone home. The criticism is you do not telegraph to the world what the issue is and what the plan is especiall...

MD, You have people in bad situations ALL over the ME and I suspect Iran......we are playing in there. You now take a HUGE asset off the map. You disclosed a problem, you disclosed I need to get to a port, you took firepower off the map for what reason? Neither town I call home has as many people on...

MD, Roll your eyes all you want. You might get vertigo :D. Spinning/tumbling is not a good thing at 30,000 feet. A simple message. Here is what a bad situation looks like - 95% of the time, you scratch your nads, find a nice comfy spot on the ground, and ask the dude with the scope if he has anythin...

MD, You nor I have nor anyone else has a clue to what happened. The only thing I know is that it was leaked and frankly it was leaked intentionally. Full Stop. That is a HUGE NO, NO as you compromise those under your command. A former Marine, who now services as a Congressman, how about gaining some...

MD, Get over yourself. It is NOT a popularity contest. He comprised his ship, his crew, and he IMHO did it intentionally because a bunch of his sailors started chatting or their spouses did on social media. Get over yourself. My last 3.5 years I worked as a team. On a good day, 5, mostly 4. I was th...

CU 88, With all due respect, you and many others have no flip about how the military works, no flip about security clearances yet try and tell folks who actually have been there, done that, and seen it what it is like. Nope, go do it man......anyone go do it, they are looking for a few good people. ...

Crozier's career was "essentially" over a few years ago. Assuming upon graduation from the Naval Academy (no offense as I still have a pair of Navy football shorts compliments of kicking the cra$ out of them) he should at least be an Admiral (lower half I think) by now, assuming he was on ...