WLAX Bracketology

[flushlax77]

The Niagara talk is crazy.

Niagara has lost to:

Arizona State by 7
Siena by 1
Fairfield by 7

Best win is Marquette by 2

Duke/NAVY/USC/Clemson/Harvard/Brown would beat them by a touchdown at least.

I lean towards Navy in this whole selection process. They beat Duke. Games should mean something.

[MolonLaxe]

Does Navy taking Loyola to OT yesterday push them over the edge??

*Edited to add I didn't realize their best win was against #30... hmmm

If it came down to navy versus duke, for a spot in the dance, I’d rather see navy.

The amount of Duke hate on this board is pretty hilarious.

None of these teams has a great claim to be included. Have no clue what the committee will value. “Inclusion” however, isn’t listed as a criteria! So no to Niagara. No to usc. The AQs already provide enough opportunities to “fill out” the tournament with non traditional representation.

The reason I personally would select Duke over brown or Harvard or navy or usc or Clemson or Colorado or any of the other bubble teams is the same reason the committee chose Penn state a few years ago: They are the ONLY team in that group that has shown an ability to actually beat a top team. Not almost beat, not “be competitive”, not “they never got beat badly”.
I’d want to favor in the last in bubble a team that might make noise and has demonstrated an ability to do so. This year, only Duke fits that bill.

If usc had beaten, say, Hopkins, I’d be advocating for them. But they didn’t.

My guess is they don’t make it. But I’m hoping they get the “Penn state treatment”.

Are you the Coach Kimmel Stan?

[Womenslaxxfan]

Does Navy taking Loyola to OT yesterday push them over the edge??

*Edited to add I didn't realize their best win was against #30... hmmm

If it came down to navy versus duke, for a spot in the dance, I’d rather see navy.

The amount of Duke hate on this board is pretty hilarious.

None of these teams has a great claim to be included. Have no clue what the committee will value. “Inclusion” however, isn’t listed as a criteria! So no to Niagara. No to usc. The AQs already provide enough opportunities to “fill out” the tournament with non traditional representation.

The reason I personally would select Duke over brown or Harvard or navy or usc or Clemson or Colorado or any of the other bubble teams is the same reason the committee chose Penn state a few years ago: They are the ONLY team in that group that has shown an ability to actually beat a top team. Not almost beat, not “be competitive”, not “they never got beat badly”.
I’d want to favor in the last in bubble a team that might make noise and has demonstrated an ability to do so. This year, only Duke fits that bill.

If usc had beaten, say, Hopkins, I’d be advocating for them. But they didn’t.

My guess is they don’t make it. But I’m hoping they get the “Penn state treatment”.

Are you the Coach Kimmel Stan?

Nope. No dog at all in the hunt!

[laxlaxlax]

Fairfield just lost to Niagara in the MAAC championship game. Wonder how that impacts Fairfield’s RPI (since their Strength of schedule isn’t great) and if they would still get an at large?

[laxlaxlax]

AQ tickets punched:

Florida
Richmond
Mercer
Binghamton
Coastal Carolina
RMU
LIU
Boston College
Denver
Northwestern
Stony Brook
Yale
Niagara
Loyola
Stanford

[Madlax59]

AQ tickets punched:

Florida
Richmond
Mercer
Binghamton
Coastal Carolina
RMU
LIU
Boston College
Denver
Northwestern
Stony Brook
Yale
Niagara
Loyola
Stanford

Ok who do we think top 8 are ?

[610Lax]

The Niagara talk is crazy.

Niagara has lost to:

Arizona State by 7
Siena by 1
Fairfield by 7

Best win is Marquette by 2

Duke/NAVY/USC/Clemson/Harvard/Brown would beat them by a touchdown at least.

I lean towards Navy in this whole selection process. They beat Duke. Games should mean something.

"They beat Duke", LOL. Everybody but Virginia beat Duke. The delusiion that Duke is a good win is funny, they're 31st in RPI. And Niagara will be in the tournament so we'll get to see how they'll do.

[610Lax]

Does Navy taking Loyola to OT yesterday push them over the edge??

*Edited to add I didn't realize their best win was against #30... hmmm

If it came down to navy versus duke, for a spot in the dance, I’d rather see navy.

The amount of Duke hate on this board is pretty hilarious.

None of these teams has a great claim to be included. Have no clue what the committee will value. “Inclusion” however, isn’t listed as a criteria! So no to Niagara. No to usc. The AQs already provide enough opportunities to “fill out” the tournament with non traditional representation.

The reason I personally would select Duke over brown or Harvard or navy or usc or Clemson or Colorado or any of the other bubble teams is the same reason the committee chose Penn state a few years ago: They are the ONLY team in that group that has shown an ability to actually beat a top team. Not almost beat, not “be competitive”, not “they never got beat badly”.
I’d want to favor in the last in bubble a team that might make noise and has demonstrated an ability to do so. This year, only Duke fits that bill.

If usc had beaten, say, Hopkins, I’d be advocating for them. But they didn’t.

My guess is they don’t make it. But I’m hoping they get the “Penn state treatment”.

It's not Duke hate, it's lacrosse knowledge. They're just not very good this year. And Niagara didn't need "Inclusion" to get into to the tournament, they earned their way in. Something Duke had plenty of opportunities to do and couldn't. 1 win vs the number 10 RPI team doesn't earn you a spot, especially when you almost lost to the number 75 and 82 RPI teams.

[NULax2]

Final projection

https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... projection

[Madlax59]

Final projection

https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... projection

Two weeks in a row they have stated UNC will travel to Northwestern. I just dont see that happening?

[flushlax77]

The Niagara talk is crazy.

Niagara has lost to:

Arizona State by 7
Siena by 1
Fairfield by 7

Best win is Marquette by 2

Duke/NAVY/USC/Clemson/Harvard/Brown would beat them by a touchdown at least.

I lean towards Navy in this whole selection process. They beat Duke. Games should mean something.

This aged well…. I can not believe that two teams from the MAAC are about to make this thing!

[hmmm]

Final projection

https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... projection

Two weeks in a row they have stated UNC will travel to Northwestern. I just dont see that happening?

Can’t see Yale seeded ahead of Syracuse. Their resumes aren’t even close. SOS is 1 vs 16.

[laxlaxlax]

Final projection

https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... projection

Two weeks in a row they have stated UNC will travel to Northwestern. I just dont see that happening?

Can’t see Yale seeded ahead of Syracuse. Their resumes aren’t even close. SOS is 1 vs 16.

Agreed. If I were Cuse and that happened after playing the toughest strength of schedule in the country, I’d be unhappy.

[LaxUpstate]

Final projection

https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... projection

Two weeks in a row they have stated UNC will travel to Northwestern. I just dont see that happening?

Can’t see Yale seeded ahead of Syracuse. Their resumes aren’t even close. SOS is 1 vs 16.

Agreed. If I were Cuse and that happened after playing the toughest strength of schedule in the country, I’d be unhappy.

Hope it does to motivate Cuse. They need a spark

[Madlax59]

Final projection

https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... projection

Two weeks in a row they have stated UNC will travel to Northwestern. I just dont see that happening?

Told you…having unc there was stupid and not happening

Wow and duke ?!

[rc13]

Navy (#22 RPI) 8-1; 15-4, lost in overtime in PL final
Duke (#31 RPI) 4-5; 10-8; blown out in 1st round of ACC tournament

And Navy has the head-to-head.

Brutal selection, just shows how much the criteria are stacked toward the power conferences.

[laxlaxlax]

Navy (#22 RPI) 8-1; 15-4, lost in overtime in PL final
Duke (#31 RPI) 4-5; 10-8; blown out in 1st round of ACC tournament

And Navy has the head-to-head.

Brutal selection, just shows how much the criteria are stacked toward the power conferences.

Navy had strength of schedule at 45 compared to Duke at 12 though plus the win over UVA which I think tipped it.

[Justalaxdad]

Navy (#22 RPI) 8-1; 15-4, lost in overtime in PL final
Duke (#31 RPI) 4-5; 10-8; blown out in 1st round of ACC tournament

And Navy has the head-to-head.

Brutal selection, just shows how much the criteria are stacked toward the power conferences.

Navy had strength of schedule at 45 compared to Duke at 12 though plus the win over UVA which I think tipped it.

Navy BEAT Duke, better record, better RPI. SOS trumps all of that?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot…they BEAT Duke!

[LaxDadMax]

Navy (#22 RPI) 8-1; 15-4, lost in overtime in PL final
Duke (#31 RPI) 4-5; 10-8; blown out in 1st round of ACC tournament

And Navy has the head-to-head.

Brutal selection, just shows how much the criteria are stacked toward the power conferences.

Pretty much shows that SOS matters. Hopefully the pat league schools all look to improve here next year

[laxfan22]

I mean look at dukes OOC SOS. It’s a frikkin joke.