Way too early Final Four

[10stone5]

I had Army on this list,

unfortunately, no longer.

[youthathletics]

I had Army on this list,

unfortunately, no longer.

They are going to rally.

[joewillie78]

Speaking from the view of a Cornell fan. We have not won a NC since 1977, but are we/ I frustrated? NOT in the least. We expect a competitive team, and we seem to get more than that easily, as we were in the NC game just 2 years ago, and seem to be in or near the top 10 every year.

Winning a NC would be great but for me, just watching my team play at such a high level every year is incredibly satisfying to me.

Maybe the Duke fans expect more than our fans or possibly Ivy league fans, but what Duke has done recently seems pretty darn impressive without winning a NC.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

Is it true you watch the end of the 09 championship every Sunday to pregame watching the jets during football season?

No, I watch the Mud Bowl, and Richard Todd's 3 picks by Aj Duhe, followed by the Marino fake Spike, and then the Butt Fumble to get me ready for watching the replay of the 09 championship game. Please get your facts straight.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

[nyjay]

Where do you stand on ILs predictive ability for recruits?

I think that they’re not much better or worse than anyone else who engages in a similar exercise.

[10stone5]

Speaking from the view of a Cornell fan. We have not won a NC since 1977, but are we/ I frustrated? NOT in the least. We expect a competitive team, and we seem to get more than that easily, as we were in the NC game just 2 years ago, and seem to be in or near the top 10 every year.

Winning a NC would be great but for me, just watching my team play at such a high level every year is incredibly satisfying to me.

Maybe the Duke fans expect more than our fans or possibly Ivy league fans, but what Duke has done recently seems pretty darn impressive without winning a NC.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

Is it true you watch the end of the 09 championship every Sunday to pregame watching the jets during football season?

No, I watch the Mud Bowl, and Richard Todd's 3 picks by Aj Duhe ...

Gobigred
Joewillie78

Oh noes !

Just when I thought I had forgotten that game and Todd.

[nyjay]

Yikes - you really seem like you have an axe to grind. Did your kid not get recruited by Duke?

I expressed an opinion (that Duke had underperformed), which was challenged (not unreasonably). So I went and did some research to see if my initial opinion was justified. It kinda was. So if anyone is grinding axes, it isn’t me. LOL.

[Finster]

Army, Cuse, UVA, ND.

UVA, ND, Duke, Cuse (........................Penn State/Maryland really close to this last slot for Cuse...I'm choosing Cuse not because of any favoritism, rather their last two games...if Penn State or Maryland get in, zero surprise)

I'm conspicuously leaving out Army even from the potential 4th pick; though the story is great and I personally would love to see them win the entire thing, I just don't feel will be in the last 4 standing. Beating both UMASS by 1 and Cuse by 1, plus some other scores season to date...I don't know, just doesn't feel like an automatic Final Four team.

Same...call it wishful thinking and brilliant, on my part, if they do get in.

Obviously Army can still get there, but last night's game shows that it will be a stretch for Army. Great team, but no lock for the Final Four.

[coda]

Army, Cuse, UVA, ND.

UVA, ND, Duke, Cuse (........................Penn State/Maryland really close to this last slot for Cuse...I'm choosing Cuse not because of any favoritism, rather their last two games...if Penn State or Maryland get in, zero surprise)

I'm conspicuously leaving out Army even from the potential 4th pick; though the story is great and I personally would love to see them win the entire thing, I just don't feel will be in the last 4 standing. Beating both UMASS by 1 and Cuse by 1, plus some other scores season to date...I don't know, just doesn't feel like an automatic Final Four team.

Same...call it wishful thinking and brilliant, on my part, if they do get in.

Obviously Army can still get there, but last night's game shows that it will be a stretch for Army. Great team, but no lock for the Final Four.

Given their schedule, Army can not afford a couple more L’s.

[youthathletics]

Army, Cuse, UVA, ND.

UVA, ND, Duke, Cuse (........................Penn State/Maryland really close to this last slot for Cuse...I'm choosing Cuse not because of any favoritism, rather their last two games...if Penn State or Maryland get in, zero surprise)

I'm conspicuously leaving out Army even from the potential 4th pick; though the story is great and I personally would love to see them win the entire thing, I just don't feel will be in the last 4 standing. Beating both UMASS by 1 and Cuse by 1, plus some other scores season to date...I don't know, just doesn't feel like an automatic Final Four team.

Same...call it wishful thinking and brilliant, on my part, if they do get in.

Obviously Army can still get there, but last night's game shows that it will be a stretch for Army. Great team, but no lock for the Final Four.

Given their schedule, Army can not afford a couple more L’s.

How so? the PL takes the top 6, with an AQ for the champ. OOC games are of no value unless they are trying to back in as a result of not earning the AQ. They already have wins of Lehigh, and HC. If I read it correctly, if the beat Loyola, they could lose the remainder of their games, still be in the PL tournament.

https://patriotleague.org/sports/mlax

[coda]

Army, Cuse, UVA, ND.

They finish with 3 losses and they may not make the tournament.


UVA, ND, Duke, Cuse (........................Penn State/Maryland really close to this last slot for Cuse...I'm choosing Cuse not because of any favoritism, rather their last two games...if Penn State or Maryland get in, zero surprise)

I'm conspicuously leaving out Army even from the potential 4th pick; though the story is great and I personally would love to see them win the entire thing, I just don't feel will be in the last 4 standing. Beating both UMASS by 1 and Cuse by 1, plus some other scores season to date...I don't know, just doesn't feel like an automatic Final Four team.

Same...call it wishful thinking and brilliant, on my part, if they do get in.

Obviously Army can still get there, but last night's game shows that it will be a stretch for Army. Great team, but no lock for the Final Four.

Given their schedule, Army can not afford a couple more L’s.

How so? the PL takes the top 6, with an AQ for the champ. OOC games are of no value unless they are trying to back in as a result of not earning the AQ. They already have wins of Lehigh, and HC. If I read it correctly, if the beat Loyola, they could lose the remainder of their games, still be in the PL tournament.

https://patriotleague.org/sports/mlax

I am talking about the NCAA tournament. I think 3 losses would put them on the bubble as an at-large team

[youthathletics]

Army, Cuse, UVA, ND.

They finish with 3 losses and they may not make the tournament.


UVA, ND, Duke, Cuse (........................Penn State/Maryland really close to this last slot for Cuse...I'm choosing Cuse not because of any favoritism, rather their last two games...if Penn State or Maryland get in, zero surprise)

I'm conspicuously leaving out Army even from the potential 4th pick; though the story is great and I personally would love to see them win the entire thing, I just don't feel will be in the last 4 standing. Beating both UMASS by 1 and Cuse by 1, plus some other scores season to date...I don't know, just doesn't feel like an automatic Final Four team.

Same...call it wishful thinking and brilliant, on my part, if they do get in.

Obviously Army can still get there, but last night's game shows that it will be a stretch for Army. Great team, but no lock for the Final Four.

Given their schedule, Army can not afford a couple more L’s.

How so? the PL takes the top 6, with an AQ for the champ. OOC games are of no value unless they are trying to back in as a result of not earning the AQ. They already have wins of Lehigh, and HC. If I read it correctly, if the beat Loyola, they could lose the remainder of their games, still be in the PL tournament.

https://patriotleague.org/sports/mlax

I am talking about the NCAA tournament. I think 3 losses would put them on the bubble as an at-large team

Gotcha...as a 2nd PL team, for sure. Especially, if they do not finish strong and lose the PL AQ. Have not seen two PL teams since 2016, when Navy received AL Bid, and went down to the wire vs Brown.

[runrussellrun]

Speaking from the view of a Cornell fan. We have not won a NC since 1977, but are we/ I frustrated? NOT in the least. We expect a competitive team, and we seem to get more than that easily, as we were in the NC game just 2 years ago, and seem to be in or near the top 10 every year.

Winning a NC would be great but for me, just watching my team play at such a high level every year is incredibly satisfying to me.

Maybe the Duke fans expect more than our fans or possibly Ivy league fans, but what Duke has done recently seems pretty darn impressive without winning a NC.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

Is it true you watch the end of the 09 championship every Sunday to pregame watching the jets during football season?

No, I watch the Mud Bowl, and Richard Todd's 3 picks by Aj Duhe, followed by the Marino fake Spike, and then the Butt Fumble to get me ready for watching the replay of the 09 championship game. Please get your facts straight.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

The goals score landed in the crease, which under the rules at the time was totally illegal to do


Refs didn't have the balls to make the right call

[DMac]

The goals score landed in the crease, which under the rules at the time was totally illegal to do


Refs didn't have the balls to make the right call

You're saying in '09 you couldn't land in the crease after the ball passes the plane of the goal?
Aint buyin' it, brother.

[mdk01]

Army, Cuse, UVA, ND.

UVA, ND, Duke, Cuse (........................Penn State/Maryland really close to this last slot for Cuse...I'm choosing Cuse not because of any favoritism, rather their last two games...if Penn State or Maryland get in, zero surprise)

I'm conspicuously leaving out Army even from the potential 4th pick; though the story is great and I personally would love to see them win the entire thing, I just don't feel will be in the last 4 standing. Beating both UMASS by 1 and Cuse by 1, plus some other scores season to date...I don't know, just doesn't feel like an automatic Final Four team.

Same...call it wishful thinking and brilliant, on my part, if they do get in.

Obviously Army can still get there, but last night's game shows that it will be a stretch for Army. Great team, but no lock for the Final Four.

This year I don't think there any locks.

[runrussellrun]

The goals score landed in the crease, which under the rules at the time was totally illegal to do


Refs didn't have the balls to make the right call

You're saying in '09 you couldn't land in the crease after the ball passes the plane of the goal?
Aint buyin' it, brother.

yup.

RULE 4, section 9: m. If an attacking player deliberately leaves his feet by jumping or diving and
his momentum carries him into the crease area, regardless of whether he
lands in the crease before or after the ball enters the goal.

http://files.leagueathletics.com/Images ... lebook.pdf

[DMac]

Yup, that's sure what it says. Must've smartened up and changed that rule, was a pretty idiotic rule.
Sounds like wlax. Ball can be in the cage for two seconds, if the girl's momentum brings her in the crease the goal aint no good. Really stupid rule, makes no sense.
Thanks.

[joewillie78]

Yup, that's sure what it says. Must've smartened up and changed that rule, was a pretty idiotic rule.
Sounds like wlax. Ball can be in the cage for two seconds, if the girl's momentum brings her in the crease the goal aint no good. Really stupid rule, makes no sense.
Thanks.

Doesn't matter now. We all know this was all on Tambroni. As soon as they started the clock, just chuck that thing as high and as far as you can. By the time it comes down, bounces around and recovered, those 9 seconds are gone, and Tambroni did THAT EXACT thing in a 1 goal PSU win here at the Kopf. Had his player chuck it as high and as far into the Cornell zone, and lo and behold, the clock ran out and PSU won. Too bad he had to learn his lesson at the expense of a Cornell NC.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

[runrussellrun]

Yup, that's sure what it says. Must've smartened up and changed that rule, was a pretty idiotic rule.
Sounds like wlax. Ball can be in the cage for two seconds, if the girl's momentum brings her in the crease the goal aint no good. Really stupid rule, makes no sense.
Thanks.

Yup......that was the rule. And yup. stupid.

Just like todays rule, with stupid extra "mini-me" crescent moon crease.

Leaving the diving to the Pros'....oh, and stop changing the fricken rules every gosh dang year........it IS stupid as well.

[Finster]

Army, Cuse, UVA, ND.

UVA, ND, Duke, Cuse (........................Penn State/Maryland really close to this last slot for Cuse...I'm choosing Cuse not because of any favoritism, rather their last two games...if Penn State or Maryland get in, zero surprise)

I'm conspicuously leaving out Army even from the potential 4th pick; though the story is great and I personally would love to see them win the entire thing, I just don't feel will be in the last 4 standing. Beating both UMASS by 1 and Cuse by 1, plus some other scores season to date...I don't know, just doesn't feel like an automatic Final Four team.

Same...call it wishful thinking and brilliant, on my part, if they do get in.

Obviously Army can still get there, but last night's game shows that it will be a stretch for Army. Great team, but no lock for the Final Four.

This year I don't think there any locks.

I think you might be right.

[Farfromgeneva]

Speaking from the view of a Cornell fan. We have not won a NC since 1977, but are we/ I frustrated? NOT in the least. We expect a competitive team, and we seem to get more than that easily, as we were in the NC game just 2 years ago, and seem to be in or near the top 10 every year.

Winning a NC would be great but for me, just watching my team play at such a high level every year is incredibly satisfying to me.

Maybe the Duke fans expect more than our fans or possibly Ivy league fans, but what Duke has done recently seems pretty darn impressive without winning a NC.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

Is it true you watch the end of the 09 championship every Sunday to pregame watching the jets during football season?

No, I watch the Mud Bowl, and Richard Todd's 3 picks by Aj Duhe, followed by the Marino fake Spike, and then the Butt Fumble to get me ready for watching the replay of the 09 championship game. Please get your facts straight.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

I loved AJ Duhe