Way too early Final Four

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joewillie78
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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joewillie78 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:21 pm Cornell
Syracuse
Virginia
Duke

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Let's revisit our predictions now:

I'm sticking with 3 but removing my beloved Big Red and replacing them with Yale.

Syracuse
Virginia
Duke
Yale

Gobigred
Joewillie78
coda
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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joewillie78 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:59 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:21 pm Cornell
Syracuse
Virginia
Duke

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Let's revisit our predictions now:

I'm sticking with 3 but removing my beloved Big Red and replacing them with Yale.

Syracuse
Virginia
Duke
Yale

Gobigred
Joewillie78
I think NC contenders are starting to emerge. I got UVa, Duke, ND, PSU, and Hopkins.
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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coda wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:29 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:59 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:21 pm Cornell
Syracuse
Virginia
Duke

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Let's revisit our predictions now:

I'm sticking with 3 but removing my beloved Big Red and replacing them with Yale.

Syracuse
Virginia
Duke
Yale

Gobigred
Joewillie78
I think NC contenders are starting to emerge. I got UVa, Duke, ND, PSU, and Hopkins.
What was your early prediction when we first started this?

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Essexfenwick
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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ND and Uva are the only teams I’m feeling. The rest is a tossup. I can imagine those two getting figured out as well.
The Orfling
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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coda wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:29 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:59 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:21 pm Cornell
Syracuse
Virginia
Duke

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Let's revisit our predictions now:

I'm sticking with 3 but removing my beloved Big Red and replacing them with Yale.

Syracuse
Virginia
Duke
Yale

Gobigred
Joewillie78
I think NC contenders are starting to emerge. I got UVa, Duke, ND, PSU, and Hopkins.
All of those are legit -- I'd add Army and Maryland. Army with a very good goalie and a great FOGO, along with at least one elite pole and maybe the country's best midfielder -- they could make a tournament run (aided by a high seed/friendly bracket both of which they'll likely get). And Tillman teams always get better down the stretch -- they too have a great goalie/FOGO/elite pole combo that is interesting.
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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The Orfling wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:36 pm
coda wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:29 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:59 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:21 pm Cornell
Syracuse
Virginia
Duke

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Let's revisit our predictions now:

I'm sticking with 3 but removing my beloved Big Red and replacing them with Yale.

Syracuse
Virginia
Duke
Yale

Gobigred
Joewillie78
I think NC contenders are starting to emerge. I got UVa, Duke, ND, PSU, and Hopkins.
All of those are legit -- I'd add Army and Maryland. Army with a very good goalie and a great FOGO, along with at least one elite pole and maybe the country's best midfielder -- they could make a tournament run (aided by a high seed/friendly bracket both of which they'll likely get). And Tillman teams always get better down the stretch -- they too have a great goalie/FOGO/elite pole combo that is interesting.
Army
Notre Dame
Duke
Maryland

Dark horse: Yale
coda
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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The Orfling wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:36 pm
coda wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:29 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:59 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:21 pm Cornell
Syracuse
Virginia
Duke

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Let's revisit our predictions now:

I'm sticking with 3 but removing my beloved Big Red and replacing them with Yale.

Syracuse
Virginia
Duke
Yale

Gobigred
Joewillie78
I think NC contenders are starting to emerge. I got UVa, Duke, ND, PSU, and Hopkins.
All of those are legit -- I'd add Army and Maryland. Army with a very good goalie and a great FOGO, along with at least one elite pole and maybe the country's best midfielder -- they could make a tournament run (aided by a high seed/friendly bracket both of which they'll likely get). And Tillman teams always get better down the stretch -- they too have a great goalie/FOGO/elite pole combo that is interesting.
I could be convinced to add Army. I am out on Maryland. I think they have final 4 caliber defense and specialists, but I am not buying that offense. That needs to improve for me to move them up
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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joewillie78 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:34 pm
coda wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:29 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:59 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:21 pm Cornell
Syracuse
Virginia
Duke

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Let's revisit our predictions now:

I'm sticking with 3 but removing my beloved Big Red and replacing them with Yale.

Syracuse
Virginia
Duke
Yale

Gobigred
Joewillie78
I think NC contenders are starting to emerge. I got UVa, Duke, ND, PSU, and Hopkins.
What was your early prediction when we first started this?

Gobigred
Joewillie78
Duke, PSU, Uva, Army

Not looking to bad right now
viho
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Duke
UVA
ND
HOP
HGK
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Feels like we are trending back to Duke, UVA, ND and the field…
coda
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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HGK wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:59 pm Feels like we are trending back to Duke, UVA, ND and the field…
I am not sure we ever really veered from that. ACC is clearly above everyone else this year. Doesn’t mean a team can’t get hot and win it all, but it seems 2 ACC teams in the final 4 is very likely
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Duke
Cornell
Maryland
Uva
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Army
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Maryland IMO doesn’t have the offense to hang w ND, VA. Who they get matched up with in the tournament will decide how far they go. If they get Army in the quarters. Possible.
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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Any updated final 4's after last night's game.

I've had Cuse and Duke all season with Yale/Cornell , and UVA.

After that game, may have to rethink Duke, but with the way this season has gone, who knows?

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History says to just write this game off. Duke always struggles with Cuse no matter what -- last year was their only win ever in the dome, and even then it took OT from a stacked Duke team against a very down version of the Orange.

A golden rule that holds true 90% of the time in the regular season is that Cuse will beat Duke, Duke will beat UVA, UVA will beat ND, and ND will beat Duke. Weirdly enough, once the NCAA tournament hits, all of these matchups flip the other way (save for last year's final between Duke and ND).
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random observer wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:01 am History says to just write this game off. Duke always struggles with Cuse no matter what -- last year was their only win ever in the dome, and even then it took OT from a stacked Duke team against a very down version of the Orange.

A golden rule that holds true 90% of the time in the regular season is that Cuse will beat Duke, Duke will beat UVA, UVA will beat ND, and ND will beat Duke. Weirdly enough, once the NCAA tournament hits, all of these matchups flip the other way (save for last year's final between Duke and ND).
I don’t know. While they came to life late in the game against Richmond, that’s two games in a row that Dukes offense has been stifled.
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rolldodge wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:46 am
random observer wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:01 am History says to just write this game off. Duke always struggles with Cuse no matter what -- last year was their only win ever in the dome, and even then it took OT from a stacked Duke team against a very down version of the Orange.

A golden rule that holds true 90% of the time in the regular season is that Cuse will beat Duke, Duke will beat UVA, UVA will beat ND, and ND will beat Duke. Weirdly enough, once the NCAA tournament hits, all of these matchups flip the other way (save for last year's final between Duke and ND).
I don’t know. While they came to life late in the game against Richmond, that’s two games in a row that Dukes offense has been stifled.
On the flip side, they gave up 13 goals over 120 minutes against Cuse and Richmond. The defense is still rock solid (including the SSDMs), they have an elite FOGO, and they have great play in goal which has not been a given typically. When your biggest concern is a unit featuring O'Neill, Zwada, and Williams, you're in good shape.

Also the 2021 Blue Devils had similar offensive sputters, and though their season ended with a thud they still made it to the Final Four.
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random observer wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:17 pm
On the flip side, they gave up 13 goals over 120 minutes against Cuse and Richmond. The defense is still rock solid (including the SSDMs), they have an elite FOGO, and they have great play in goal which has not been a given typically. When your biggest concern is a unit featuring O'Neill, Zwada, and Williams, you're in good shape.

Also the 2021 Blue Devils had similar offensive sputters, and though their season ended with a thud they still made it to the Final Four.
That was quite the rotten egg last night. How do you score a total of 4 goals with that amount of offensive talent on the team? I get that Mark was great, but how can that possibly happen? Are the Duke fans starting to get frustrated with Danowski? Seems like they regularly underperform their talent level. Every year, they are one of the top 2-3 most talented teams in the country. 2014 is getting to be a while ago.
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Re: Way too early Final Four

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nyjay wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:29 pm
random observer wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:17 pm
On the flip side, they gave up 13 goals over 120 minutes against Cuse and Richmond. The defense is still rock solid (including the SSDMs), they have an elite FOGO, and they have great play in goal which has not been a given typically. When your biggest concern is a unit featuring O'Neill, Zwada, and Williams, you're in good shape.

Also the 2021 Blue Devils had similar offensive sputters, and though their season ended with a thud they still made it to the Final Four.
That was quite the rotten egg last night. How do you score a total of 4 goals with that amount of offensive talent on the team? I get that Mark was great, but how can that possibly happen? Are the Duke fans starting to get frustrated with Danowski? Seems like they regularly underperform their talent level. Every year, they are one of the top 2-3 most talented teams in the country. 2014 is getting to be a while ago.
Which is completely ridiculous. Duke has been to the final four 3 of the past 4 years.
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