ivy league 2024

[Gobigred]

Yes, I think that's right; the 4-way is broken in favor of Cornell and Princeton, who are both 2-1 against the other 3, while Penn and Yale are 1-2. Then Cornell wins the H2H over Princeton, and Yale wins the H2H over Penn.

Sounds tight.

[The Orfling]

Yes, I think that's right; the 4-way is broken in favor of Cornell and Princeton, who are both 2-1 against the other 3, while Penn and Yale are 1-2. Then Cornell wins the H2H over Princeton, and Yale wins the H2H over Penn.

Sounds tight.

Yes, I stand corrected. That's the common sense outcome and it would be the outcome under the tiebreaker rule 2(a): https://ivyleague.com/sports/2018/4/17/ ... 80748.aspx

2. In the case of a multiple ties (more than two teams with the same record), the following procedure will be used:
a. The highest seed will go to the team with the best cumulative record against all other teams tied at that spot. (If multiple teams are tied with the same record, the tie between those teams will be broken on the basis of cumulative record against each other)
b. Once a highest seed(s) (amongst the tied teams) is determined, the initial tie is broken. The tie between the remaining teams will be determined on the basis of cumulative record against all other remaining teams tied at that spot.
c. This procedure will be repeated until all possible ties are broken. (If there are remaining unbroken ties within the group, the remaining tied teams move on to step 3.)

[The Orfling]

Overall seeding and the #4 ILT tournament are still to be determined.

Fourth slot in the ILT: Still up for grabs between Princeton and Brown, with more paths for Princeton. A win for Princeton vs. Yale and they are in (and with at least the #2 seed!); a loss for Princeton and they are still in if Harvard beats Brown. Brown needs to beat Harvard and for Yale to beat Princeton to get into the ILT (they’d have the #4 seed).

Seeding: In terms of what is most likely, Cornell has a very clear path to the #1 seed and hosting: beat Dartmouth (so far winless) on the road. If that is the case, then it’s up to the outcome of Yale’s game vs. Princeton to determine seeds 2-4:



3. Princeton beats Yale/Dartmouth beats Cornell: there would be 4 teams at 4-2 (Pr; Pn; C; Y). The #1 seed would be between Cornell and Princeton and Cornell gets it based on head-to-head win over Princeton; Princeton would be #2 (win vs. Penn and, in this scenario, win vs. Yale); Yale #3 (win vs. Penn); Penn #4. So it would be Cornell #1 seed; Princeton #2 seed; Yale #3 seed; Penn #4 seed. {Corrected with credit to @nms}

Once it is between two teams (Cornell and Princeton), why wouldn't it go to the head-to-head matchup, which was won by Cornell?

[The Orfling]

Sadly, what is happening today on Ivy League campuses overshadows any accomplishments on lacrosse fields.

Group of Yale students form a human chain to BLOCK a Jewish student from entering the University.
The chilling act of antisemitism echoes 1939, when Nazi’s blocked Jewish students from entering Vienna University- simply because they were Jews.

From what I understand (including from the Yale Daily News's live tweets), Yale is dealing with a Gaza protest that sounds like it involves some Yale students and some non-Yale students; the University has given the warning to disperse and has begun making arrests today (Monday). From reading news reports, it sounds like you are describing counter-protest activity leading to a confrontation between a larger protesting group and several counter-protesters; an inference is that those sorts of (unacceptable) confrontations are why the university is moving (as Columbia has) to arresting those not adhering to the time/place/manner guidelines for protest activities.

I think FanLax has a politics forum where college protests could be discussed more; to be honest, following college lacrosse is for me an antidote to some of the more dystopian elements of life in 2024 so I am not a "politics forum" participant and won't keep a discussion going in this thread either.

[FannOLax]

Yes, "dystopian," and Coulumbia both locked the big 116th Street gates to campus and called the NYC police for help (although perhaps not in that chronological order). Okay, that's all I say about such matters on this thread.

Interesting scheduling by Brown to have a mid-week OOC game before what could be (depending on how Princeton fares at Yale) a crucial regular-season Ivy finale against Harvard.

[faircornell]

I think that the Brown game is part of a three way annual competition between Brown, Bryant and Providence. It's for a best in Rhode Island cup. I don't recall what it's called

[ICGrad]

That video even worse because Riordan ran right through Connor Buczek on his way to the goal

I thought I was the only one who remembered that ...

It happened in 2008 at home vs Ohio State as well. The OSU goalie scored a goal in the first round of the playoffs vs Cornell and Cornell lost the game pretty badly as I recall.

iirc, Chayse Ierlan returned the favor in the 2022 game with a long goal from beyond midfield.

Must be something about Cornell playing state schools in the first round of the NCAAs that's conducive to goalie goals.

[bearlaxfan]

I think that the Brown game is part of a three way annual competition between Brown, Bryant and Providence. It's for a best in Rhode Island cup. I don't recall what it's called

Ocean state cup.
PC is 1-1, lost to Bryant.

Bryant wins with a Tues win. If everyone's tied 1-1, I believe there's no award. No tiebreaks thank FSM. Previous winner retains possession.

[faircornell]

CJ Kirst, Cornell is Ivy Offensive POW

Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton is Ivy Defensive Player of the Week

[FannOLax]

CJ Kirst, Cornell is Ivy Offensive POW

Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton is Ivy Defensive Player of the Week

I like the fact that the League web site cited Kirst's two caused turnovers and three ground balls. He really is quite good on the ride. Can't say enough good things about CJ. Yes, goalie Gianforcaro had a goal against Penn, as noted on the League web site; here's hoping they play him at attack this Saturday.

[faircornell]

Some top performances in the Ivy League this week:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: (3,5) 8 points vs Albany, (5,4) 9 points vs Hofstra = 17 points
Nate Davis, Dartmouth: (3,3) 6 points vs Brown
Willem Firth, Cornell (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Nate Kabiri, Princeton: (2,3) 5 points vs Penn
CJ Kirst, Cornell: (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Carson Kuhl, Yale: (3,0) 3 points vs Albany, (1,1) 2 points vs Hofstra = 5 points
Johnny Kelb, Yale: (3,1) 4 points vs Albany
Tynan Walsh, Penn: (1,3) 4 points vs Princeton
Cole Cashion, Yale: (1,0) 1 point vs Albany, (3,0) 3 points vs Hofstra = 4 points
Colin McGill, Dartmouth: (3,0) 3 points vs Brown
Davis Provost, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Griffin Scale, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Tommy Barnds, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Logan Ip, Harvard: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Max Krevsky, Yale (2,1) 3 points vs Hofstra
Ben Locke, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Aidan McLane, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Ben Scandone, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
James Shipley, Penn: (2,1) 3 points vs Princeton
Elliott Fee, Dartmouth: (1,2) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Michael Long, Cornell: (1,2) 3 points vs Harvard

Face-Off

Angelo Petrakis, Cornell: 7/11, 64% vs Harvard
Andrew McMeekin, Princeton: 16/27, 59% vs Penn
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 14/27, 52% vs Brown
Andrew Gennaro, Harvard: 13/25, 52% vs Cornell
Dash Sachs, Brown: 12/24, 50% vs Dartmouth
Ethan Costello, Penn: 12/24, 50% vs Princeton

As a PU alum/fan I’ll add 2 goals for Mcmeekin and one for Gianforcaro!

To your point, according to Princeton's Instagram, McMeekin leads all DI FOGOs this year with 7 goals.

[DA/PU]

Some top performances in the Ivy League this week:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: (3,5) 8 points vs Albany, (5,4) 9 points vs Hofstra = 17 points
Nate Davis, Dartmouth: (3,3) 6 points vs Brown
Willem Firth, Cornell (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Nate Kabiri, Princeton: (2,3) 5 points vs Penn
CJ Kirst, Cornell: (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Carson Kuhl, Yale: (3,0) 3 points vs Albany, (1,1) 2 points vs Hofstra = 5 points
Johnny Kelb, Yale: (3,1) 4 points vs Albany
Tynan Walsh, Penn: (1,3) 4 points vs Princeton
Cole Cashion, Yale: (1,0) 1 point vs Albany, (3,0) 3 points vs Hofstra = 4 points
Colin McGill, Dartmouth: (3,0) 3 points vs Brown
Davis Provost, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Griffin Scale, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Tommy Barnds, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Logan Ip, Harvard: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Max Krevsky, Yale (2,1) 3 points vs Hofstra
Ben Locke, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Aidan McLane, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Ben Scandone, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
James Shipley, Penn: (2,1) 3 points vs Princeton
Elliott Fee, Dartmouth: (1,2) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Michael Long, Cornell: (1,2) 3 points vs Harvard

Face-Off

Angelo Petrakis, Cornell: 7/11, 64% vs Harvard
Andrew McMeekin, Princeton: 16/27, 59% vs Penn
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 14/27, 52% vs Brown
Andrew Gennaro, Harvard: 13/25, 52% vs Cornell
Dash Sachs, Brown: 12/24, 50% vs Dartmouth
Ethan Costello, Penn: 12/24, 50% vs Princeton

As a PU alum/fan I’ll add 2 goals for Mcmeekin and one for Gianforcaro!

To your point, according to Princeton's Instagram, McMeekin leads all DI FOGOs this year with 7 goals.

He’s actually a really good shooter. His goals on Saturday were outside rockets on the run. He certainly creates problems for the defense in that no one wants to slide off kabiri at the point. Yale will be an extremely tough test FO wise if Rodriguez plays. He’s an animal. Yale has been great at FOs for like 20 years.

[laxfan1313]

Some top performances in the Ivy League this week:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: (3,5) 8 points vs Albany, (5,4) 9 points vs Hofstra = 17 points
Nate Davis, Dartmouth: (3,3) 6 points vs Brown
Willem Firth, Cornell (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Nate Kabiri, Princeton: (2,3) 5 points vs Penn
CJ Kirst, Cornell: (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Carson Kuhl, Yale: (3,0) 3 points vs Albany, (1,1) 2 points vs Hofstra = 5 points
Johnny Kelb, Yale: (3,1) 4 points vs Albany
Tynan Walsh, Penn: (1,3) 4 points vs Princeton
Cole Cashion, Yale: (1,0) 1 point vs Albany, (3,0) 3 points vs Hofstra = 4 points
Colin McGill, Dartmouth: (3,0) 3 points vs Brown
Davis Provost, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Griffin Scale, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Tommy Barnds, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Logan Ip, Harvard: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Max Krevsky, Yale (2,1) 3 points vs Hofstra
Ben Locke, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Aidan McLane, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Ben Scandone, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
James Shipley, Penn: (2,1) 3 points vs Princeton
Elliott Fee, Dartmouth: (1,2) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Michael Long, Cornell: (1,2) 3 points vs Harvard

Face-Off

Angelo Petrakis, Cornell: 7/11, 64% vs Harvard
Andrew McMeekin, Princeton: 16/27, 59% vs Penn
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 14/27, 52% vs Brown
Andrew Gennaro, Harvard: 13/25, 52% vs Cornell
Dash Sachs, Brown: 12/24, 50% vs Dartmouth
Ethan Costello, Penn: 12/24, 50% vs Princeton

As a PU alum/fan I’ll add 2 goals for Mcmeekin and one for Gianforcaro!

To your point, according to Princeton's Instagram, McMeekin leads all DI FOGOs this year with 7 goals.

He’s actually a really good shooter. His goals on Saturday were outside rockets on the run. He certainly creates problems for the defense in that no one wants to slide off kabiri at the point. Yale will be an extremely tough test FO wise if Rodriguez plays. He’s an animal. Yale has been great at FOs for like 20 years.

Amazing how many FOGOs have 1600 SATs.

[bearlaxfan]

Some top performances in the Ivy League this week:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: (3,5) 8 points vs Albany, (5,4) 9 points vs Hofstra = 17 points
Nate Davis, Dartmouth: (3,3) 6 points vs Brown
Willem Firth, Cornell (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Nate Kabiri, Princeton: (2,3) 5 points vs Penn
CJ Kirst, Cornell: (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Carson Kuhl, Yale: (3,0) 3 points vs Albany, (1,1) 2 points vs Hofstra = 5 points
Johnny Kelb, Yale: (3,1) 4 points vs Albany
Tynan Walsh, Penn: (1,3) 4 points vs Princeton
Cole Cashion, Yale: (1,0) 1 point vs Albany, (3,0) 3 points vs Hofstra = 4 points
Colin McGill, Dartmouth: (3,0) 3 points vs Brown
Davis Provost, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Griffin Scale, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Tommy Barnds, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Logan Ip, Harvard: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Max Krevsky, Yale (2,1) 3 points vs Hofstra
Ben Locke, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Aidan McLane, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Ben Scandone, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
James Shipley, Penn: (2,1) 3 points vs Princeton
Elliott Fee, Dartmouth: (1,2) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Michael Long, Cornell: (1,2) 3 points vs Harvard

Face-Off

Angelo Petrakis, Cornell: 7/11, 64% vs Harvard
Andrew McMeekin, Princeton: 16/27, 59% vs Penn
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 14/27, 52% vs Brown
Andrew Gennaro, Harvard: 13/25, 52% vs Cornell
Dash Sachs, Brown: 12/24, 50% vs Dartmouth
Ethan Costello, Penn: 12/24, 50% vs Princeton

As a PU alum/fan I’ll add 2 goals for Mcmeekin and one for Gianforcaro!

To your point, according to Princeton's Instagram, McMeekin leads all DI FOGOs this year with 7 goals.

He’s actually a really good shooter. His goals on Saturday were outside rockets on the run. He certainly creates problems for the defense in that no one wants to slide off kabiri at the point. Yale will be an extremely tough test FO wise if Rodriguez plays. He’s an animal. Yale has been great at FOs for like 20 years.

Amazing how many FOGOs have 1600 SATs.

All that headbanging creates space for lots of knowledge. All the finer edumacational institutions know this.

[faircornell]

Some top performances in the Ivy League this week:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: (3,5) 8 points vs Albany, (5,4) 9 points vs Hofstra = 17 points
Nate Davis, Dartmouth: (3,3) 6 points vs Brown
Willem Firth, Cornell (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Nate Kabiri, Princeton: (2,3) 5 points vs Penn
CJ Kirst, Cornell: (2,3) 5 points vs Harvard
Carson Kuhl, Yale: (3,0) 3 points vs Albany, (1,1) 2 points vs Hofstra = 5 points
Johnny Kelb, Yale: (3,1) 4 points vs Albany
Tynan Walsh, Penn: (1,3) 4 points vs Princeton
Cole Cashion, Yale: (1,0) 1 point vs Albany, (3,0) 3 points vs Hofstra = 4 points
Colin McGill, Dartmouth: (3,0) 3 points vs Brown
Davis Provost, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Griffin Scale, Penn: (3,0) 3 points vs Princeton
Tommy Barnds, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Logan Ip, Harvard: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Max Krevsky, Yale (2,1) 3 points vs Hofstra
Ben Locke, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Penn
Aidan McLane, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Ben Scandone, Brown: (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
James Shipley, Penn: (2,1) 3 points vs Princeton
Elliott Fee, Dartmouth: (1,2) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Michael Long, Cornell: (1,2) 3 points vs Harvard

Face-Off

Angelo Petrakis, Cornell: 7/11, 64% vs Harvard
Andrew McMeekin, Princeton: 16/27, 59% vs Penn
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 14/27, 52% vs Brown
Andrew Gennaro, Harvard: 13/25, 52% vs Cornell
Dash Sachs, Brown: 12/24, 50% vs Dartmouth
Ethan Costello, Penn: 12/24, 50% vs Princeton

Goalies:

Wyatt Knust, Cornell: 16 saves, 67% vs Harvard
Jared Paquette, Yale: 14 saves, 64% vs Hofstra
Michael Gianforcaro: Princeton: 15 saves, 60% vs Penn
Connor Theriault, Brown: 15 saves, 58% vs Dartmouth
Emmett Carroll, Penn: 17 saves, 53% vs Princeton
Mason Morel, Dartmouth: 15 saves, 52% vs Brown
Christian Barnard, Harvard: 13 saves, 46% vs Cornell
Hugh Conrad, Yale: 7 saves, 64% vs Albany, 7 saves, 64% vs Hofstra

As a PU alum/fan I’ll add 2 goals for Mcmeekin and one for Gianforcaro!

Michael Gianforcaro was named Inside Lacrosse Player of the Week.

[ICGrad]

Brown lost last night, meaning that they have a very real chance to make the ILT with a 4-10 record. Crazy.

[The Orfling]

Brown lost last night, meaning that they have a very real chance to make the ILT with a 4-10 record. Crazy.

Brown has some holes but can also play quite well, as the win over Princeton and the near-upset of Maryland shows. In the Bryant game, Bryant's zone defense gave them fits -- accurate shooting has been an issue for Bruno so perhaps that's not surprising. I don't know Harvard's game enough to know whether it's likely the Crimson will throw a zone at Brown.

In order for that "late game" to have ILT implications, Yale would have to beat Princeton -- no easy task. Princeton is 3-1 against Yale in the last four games (the lone loss coming at Reese, however) and looked formidable against Penn. The Tigers boast one of the handful of best goalies in the country, a superstar attackman who has always given Yale fits in Mackesy, and two Ivy rookie of the year candidates in Kabiri and Burns. Yale is on a 7-game winning streak but has had to come back from big deficits in recent games in which it did not have an advantage at the faceoff X due to the injuries to Ramsey and Rodriguez; it almost feels like they'll need one of their top 2 FOGOs back to be able to get the W.

[bearlaxfan]

Reposting from Brown page:

Congrats to the 4 ILT teams. Let's see how 5,6, & 7 perform later today.

[CU77]

ILT now set, regardless of the remaining games:

1 Cornell
2 Princeton
3 Yale
4 Penn

[faircornell]

Some strong performances in the Ivy League this week:

Offense:

CJ Kirst, Cornell: (4,3) 7 points vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: (5,0) 5 points vs Yale
Aidan McLane, Brown: (4,1) 5 points vs Harvard
Ryan Goldstein, Cornell: (2,3) 5 points vs Dartmouth
Sam King, Harvard: (2,2) 4 points vs Brown
Danny Caddigan, Cornell: (3,0) 3 points vs Dartmouth
John Dunphey, Princeton: (3,0) 3 points vs Yale
John Aurandt, Harvard: (2,1) 3 points vs Brown
Henry Bonnie, Dartmouth: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Tommy Rogan, Dartmouth: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Jack Speidell, Harvard: (2,1) 3 points vs Brown
Brandon Ventarola, Dartmouth: (2,1) 3 points vs Cornell
Marcus Wertheim, Brown (2,1) 3 points vs Dartmouth
Matt Brandau, Yale: (2,1) 3 points vs Princeton
Tucker Wade, Princeton: (2,1) 3 points vs Yale

Face-Off:

Andrew McMeekin, Princeton: 20/26, 77% vs Yale
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 15/23, 65% vs Cornell
Tegan Bultman, Brown: 9/13, 62% vs Harvard
Dash Sachs, Brown: 5/9, 56% vs Harvard

Goalies:

Wyatt Knust, Cornell: 18 saves, 72% vs Dartmouth
Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton: 16 saves, 67% vs Yale
Mason Morell, Dartmouth: 20 saves, 57% vs Cornell
Connor Theriault, Brown: 14 saves, 56% vs Harvard
Christian Barnard, Harvard: 11 saves, 52% vs Brown

I will check for errors and omissions later.