Best player in your schools history

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wrapcheque
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On a quick scroll I don't see any picks for Cornell, so Eamon is my pick for both wooden and
plastic stick era. Didn't matter which stick he used, and he used both. Probably one of the last
greats to use a wooden stick and he didn't like giving it up.
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wrapcheque wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:00 pm On a quick scroll I don't see any picks for Cornell, so Eamon is my pick for both wooden and
plastic stick era. Didn't matter which stick he used, and he used both. Probably one of the last
greats to use a wooden stick and he didn't like giving it up.
I agree with that analysis. His wooden stick skills would be competitive today. If one were to include longevity in many aspects of the game, leadership in the game and ongoing contribution, Mike French would need to be up there as well.
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Back to the Brown discussion-
I loved David Evans.
Well-rounded game.
Absolute Beast.

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UMass - As good as Sal was in goal, Mark Million was the best player in the world shortly after graduating (1998). A toss up between those two.
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stonewall wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:10 am UMass - As good as Sal was in goal, Mark Million was the best player in the world shortly after graduating (1998). A toss up between those two.
UMass had another Best in the World player. Brooks Sweet.
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For Lafayette, it’s probably Tommy Perini or Steve Serling.
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sinman6 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:09 am For Lafayette, it’s probably Tommy Perini or Steve Serling.
Zip Boucher, solid solid player, also.
And, great name.
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10stone5 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:59 pm
IDHen wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:25 pm UD (Delaware) - John Grant Jr. Hope 10Stone5 can comment on this. Grant Jr. was USILA Collegiate Player of the Year in 1999.
Grant Jr was a game changer, one of the more transformative players in NCAA lacrosse history. There are any number of players whose style of play was adapted from Grant Jr’s.
Grant Jr was / is a lacrosse savant, son of another lacrosse savant, John Grant Sr.
Grant Jr should be in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.
When he led the Blue Hens to the 1999 quarterfinals, back when it was a major accomplishment for a team like Delaware to actually win an NCAA tournament game, the Hens played North Carolina, Loyola, Georgetown, Navy, UVA - no cupcake schedule at all - and Grant Jr scored at will against all these teams except for #1 Loyola.
Grant Jr scored 110 points that year, 6.5 points per game, a standard in point production which held until the arrival of Lyle Thompson 15 years later.

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Another Grant will likely be at the top of the list of Delaware players for years, Owen Grant.
Probably correct with Grant Jr, but Alex Smith needs to be in the discussion at some level. 3x AA, led UD to their first ever final four. Singlehandedly got faceoff rules changed because of his dominance and other teams' reactions.

Looking at the record books, Steve Shaw is also one of the best faceoff guys of all time.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:50 pm Back to the Brown discussion-
I loved David Evans.
Well-rounded game.
Absolute Beast.

I agree he's in the discussion.
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faircornell wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:17 am
stonewall wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:10 am UMass - As good as Sal was in goal, Mark Million was the best player in the world shortly after graduating (1998). A toss up between those two.
UMass had another Best in the World player. Brooks Sweet.
Ithaca guy ;)
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FMUBart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:17 pm
DALaxDad wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:44 pm
bearlaxfan wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:26 pm Brown's Darren Lowe & Dylan Molloy have the most props. I never saw Lowe play. There are also some guys besides Lowe from the Starsia years. Any nominees? Or from Stevenson's years as coach?
Lowe was excellent, but I think I'd have to go with Malloy for players I have seen. Cliff Stevenson was always partial to Tom Draper, using him as an example of what we should become as players.
Andy T is my pick
I've seen them both play (and had brief opportunity to play w/them), both worthy. Darren Lowe was small but holy crap was he fast, and had eyes on back of his head, could feed from anywhere, whether looking at you or not. AT was physically imposing, and talented. I believe Lowe won the Tewaaraton before it was a thing (maybe offensive mvp for d1)
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DALaxDad wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:10 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:50 pm Back to the Brown discussion-
I loved David Evans.
Well-rounded game.
Absolute Beast.

I agree he's in the discussion.
Definitely...
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10stone5 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:19 am
sinman6 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:09 am For Lafayette, it’s probably Tommy Perini or Steve Serling.
Zip Boucher, solid solid player, also.
And, great name.
Zip was a few years ahead of me in HS. Didn't realize he played D1. Those years' lacrosse teams were talented; 2 guys played at Brown, including an HM attack (Bill Olsen), one guy D1 at Michigan State, and many D3.
Not bad for RI in the mid 1970's.
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Sportin' Life wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:45 pm As a long-time Carolina fan, there are a lot of great players such as Tom Sears, Joey Seivold, Tom Haus, Dennis Goldstein, Billy Bitter, Marcus Holman and Chris Gray in the running but I'm going to throw out Graham Harden for consideration as the best. Harden was captain of the undefeated 1991 national championship squad. That year he was First Team All-ACC, First Team All-America, ACC Player of the Year and the Schmeisser Award winner. In 2002 he was named to the ACC 50th anniversary men's lacrosse team.


Michael Burnett played roughly from 1979-83. Attack. I think he was an exceptional player from the film I’ve seen. (Seivold was obviously effective yet bizarrely slow for a middie)
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Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:45 pm
camskidamski wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:00 pm UVA debate will be a good one...
Agreed...


UVA’s best player of all time is likely a current player, Connor Shellenberger. I’ve head a few Hoo alum who are otherwise in this discussion admit that.

If you had to take another name because current players can’t be considered, I guess I’d go with Steele Stanwick.
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DMac wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:28 am Yup, and that's going to be heavily influenced by one's age and how much they saw him play.
For those who saw them both play a lot there is no question about who changed the game
(for the better) with creativity and style of play the most though. Think the Powells will (do)
say the same.
It's all good.

Gary versus Powell is an impossible task to split differences. If you had to decide, I’d agree that Gary’s influence on the game itself was more pronounced.
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Lax3 wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:18 pm Georgetown easy = Brodie Merrill.
Agree this is an easy call. Brodie Merrill is one of the greatest lacrosse players of all time.
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Hoya wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:37 am
Lax3 wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:18 pm Georgetown easy = Brodie Merrill.
Agree this is an easy call. Brodie Merrill is one of the greatest lacrosse players of all time.
And the Canadians are still trotting him out on their national team, correct?
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Merrill and Owen Grant are supposed to be starting D,
not sure who is number three.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:36 pm
Hoya wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:37 am
Lax3 wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:18 pm Georgetown easy = Brodie Merrill.
Agree this is an easy call. Brodie Merrill is one of the greatest lacrosse players of all time.
And the Canadians are still trotting him out on their national team, correct?
Yep, 41 years old and still on Canada's national team: https://www.lacrosse.ca/division/0/1074 ... -and-Staff

Also I shamelessly pulled this from wikipedia:

NCAA:
2x USILA First Team All-American (2004-05)
2x Tewaaraton Award nominee (2004-05)
2x First Team All-ECAC (2004-05)
USILA Schmeisser Award (2005)
ECAC Defensive Player of the Year (2005)

MLL:
3x MLL Champion (2005, 2008, 2009)
MLL Rookie of the Year (2005)
7x MLL All-Star
6x MLL Defensive Player of the Year (2006-11)

NLL:
Rookie of the Year (2006)
Defensive Player of the Year (2006)
3x Transition Player of the Year (2009-10, 2017)
9x All Pro

PLL:
PLL All-Star (2019)
Jimmy Regan Teammate Award (2022)
LSM of the Year Award named in his honor**

All-Time Lacrosse Records:
Most career ground balls, PLL/MLL
Most career loose balls, NLL
Most career Defensive Player of the Year awards
Most career games played, PLL/MLL
Most seasons played in a career

International:
2x World Lacrosse Championships Best Defenseman (2006, 2010)
3x All World Team (2006, 2010, 2014)
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