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another fan
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Cornell 2024

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There are already been some discussions about prospects for next year and it's appropriate to turn the page.
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AJ Nikolic PA M 2023 5STAR*
Willem Firth ON A 2023 4STAR*
Luke Gilmartin NY M 2023 4STAR*
Ryan Goldstein CT A 2023 4STAR*

I believe these 4 guys are going to be big contributors for years to come.
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As I mentioned in the 2023 thread, I also like two less heralded players: Ryan Waldman A and TJ Lamb M.
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Anyone know where Adler likely to play next year?
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jfeely wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am Anyone know where Adler likely to play next year?
The PLL. He was the first pick in the draft.
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Powellfan22 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:09 am
jfeely wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am Anyone know where Adler likely to play next year?
The PLL. He was the first pick in the draft.
Does the PLL pay enough, even for its #1 pick, that he won't need another job too?
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Ezra White wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:57 pm
Powellfan22 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:09 am
jfeely wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am Anyone know where Adler likely to play next year?
The PLL. He was the first pick in the draft.
Does the PLL pay enough, even for its #1 pick, that he won't need another job too?
I hear it's easy to live off $35k a year...
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GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 2:03 pm
Ezra White wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:57 pm
Powellfan22 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:09 am
jfeely wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am Anyone know where Adler likely to play next year?
The PLL. He was the first pick in the draft.
Does the PLL pay enough, even for its #1 pick, that he won't need another job too?
I hear it's easy to live off $35k a year...
He’s BSing,

Course you have the rest of the year to earn a living
plus clubs, camps,

he can do all right for his age.
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10stone5 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 2:57 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 2:03 pm
Ezra White wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:57 pm
Powellfan22 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:09 am
jfeely wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am Anyone know where Adler likely to play next year?
The PLL. He was the first pick in the draft.
Does the PLL pay enough, even for its #1 pick, that he won't need another job too?
I hear it's easy to live off $35k a year...
He’s BSing,

Course you have the rest of the year to earn a living
plus clubs, camps,

he can do all right for his age.
One of my good friends plays in both NLL/PLL... very good player in both. You know him if you follow the sport.

He is not making more than 35k from PLL a year and does have a day job...
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Luke Gilmartin had 6/1 in Westhill's 12-10 loss to Jamesville Dewitt in the Section 3 C championship game.
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another fan wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:57 am Luke Gilmartin had 6/1 in Westhill's 12-10 loss to Jamesville Dewitt in the Section 3 C championship game.
Strong finish to his HS career
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It's fun to track recruits and imagine the impact they might have on the team next year. Who are some of the returning players we didn't see much of this year who might break through and play a bigger role next year? Many of the reserves were highly touted recruits themselves who have been working their asses off to improve. There is some guesswork in this since we don't get to watch practices or see the work that some of the young men are putting in on their own. Especially in roles where substitutions are infrequent (like attack), we don't get to see these players on the field so it's hard to know how big the gap is between the starters and the reserves. A few players come to mind as examples:
  • Matthew Perfetto (rising sophomore) - If I recall correctly, he started the first game or two in place of Michael Long before Brian Piatelli stepped in. Later, he played as an EMO specialist. His playing time fell off dramatically after that, but the coaches obviously saw something they liked. He was just a freshman--a huge adjustment physically and mentally so this should not come as a surprise. https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-l ... etto/71496
  • Rory Graham (rising senior) - I think we saw him as an EMO specialist a couple of times and I didn't realize that he had a hat trick in the first Yale game. It's a small sample size but he scored four goals on six shots over the season--impressive conversion rate! I think one of his former teammates Tweeted about how happy he was when Graham got his first goal which suggests that he is well liked by his teammates (again, that's a small sample size, but it's all I've got to go on). Graham played in seven games this year vs. two the prior season. https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-l ... aham/69842
No doubt there are many others. From my experience in team sports, a few special players are stars from the beginning, but it's not uncommon for others to develop into impact players over their college years.

Since we have a long time to wait, what are your thoughts on who might emerge for the Big Red next season?
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mfp wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:53 am It's fun to track recruits and imagine the impact they might have on the team next year. Who are some of the returning players we didn't see much of this year who might break through and play a bigger role next year? Many of the reserves were highly touted recruits themselves who have been working their asses off to improve. There is some guesswork in this since we don't get to watch practices or see the work that some of the young men are putting in on their own. Especially in roles where substitutions are infrequent (like attack), we don't get to see these players on the field so it's hard to know how big the gap is between the starters and the reserves. A few players come to mind as examples:
  • Matthew Perfetto (rising sophomore) - If I recall correctly, he started the first game or two in place of Michael Long before Brian Piatelli stepped in. Later, he played as an EMO specialist. His playing time fell off dramatically after that, but the coaches obviously saw something they liked. He was just a freshman--a huge adjustment physically and mentally so this should not come as a surprise. https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-l ... etto/71496
  • Rory Graham (rising senior) - I think we saw him as an EMO specialist a couple of times and I didn't realize that he had a hat trick in the first Yale game. It's a small sample size but he scored four goals on six shots over the season--impressive conversion rate! I think one of his former teammates Tweeted about how happy he was when Graham got his first goal which suggests that he is well liked by his teammates (again, that's a small sample size, but it's all I've got to go on). Graham played in seven games this year vs. two the prior season. https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-l ... aham/69842
No doubt there are many others. From my experience in team sports, a few special players are stars from the beginning, but it's not uncommon for others to develop into impact players over their college years.

Since we have a long time to wait, what are your thoughts on who might emerge for the Big Red next season?
Good topic, and nice list to start'

Perfetto-- Excellent player at Manhasset who perhaps was a bit in the shadow of others there. He played a little x attack when Long was out, as well as up top on emo, but his playing time seemed to decrease over time as Coyle took over the quarterback role. I agree he is a great candidate to make a jump, but there will be stiff competition for the third attack spot including Piatelli and newcomers Firth, Goldstein, Waldman, and even Nikolic if he does not play midfield.

Rory Graham-- Has been effective on emo in his limited time.I believe injury has also held him back at times. Big kid, excellent lefty shot and finisher. With a little more foot speed, he could be a Matt Collison type player. However, more time as an emo specialist, rather than regular time at attack or midfield, seems more likely to me.

Ben Abladian--Got some time at attack and midfield, and could compete at both next year. Considering how much he scored as an attack at Bryant, I was surprised that his playing time was modest, and midfield seemed to be where he was slotted, and where there may be greater opportunity.

While in high school, Reeder looked like a bigger, maybe a little faster version of Singer. I expect Staub to move back to close and Rayhill back to LSM, but there is an opportunity for Reeder at LSM if he can re acclimate to lacrosse and regain his high school form.

Some others-- Danny Caddigan was a prolific scorer in high school and an emo specialist the year before last. I did not see him on the field last year and he may have been injured. Brian Luzzi was already seeing his time expand on the second midfield.He is crafty and a good and creative shooter with a nose for the goal and could become a regular on the second line. Luzzi was taking time at the expense of Alex Holmes. Holmes is still a candidate to make a jump. He has good size and excellent speed, but is not a great shooter and often seems hesitant to try to get to the goal. With his physical tools, it would be great to see a jump as several of the others discussed are specialists, and Holmes has the potential to be an effective regular.
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another fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:08 pm ...

Perfetto-- Excellent player at Manhasset who perhaps was a bit in the shadow of others there. He played a little x attack when Long was out, as well as up top on emo, but his playing time seemed to decrease over time as Coyle took over the quarterback role. I agree he is a great candidate to make a jump, but there will be stiff competition for the third attack spot including Piatelli and newcomers Firth, Goldstein, Waldman, and even Nikolic if he does not play midfield.

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I don't see Nikolic moving to attack. We have ample talent at attack among the others you name. IMHO, we need to strengthen our offensive midfield, and Nikolic might be terrific for inverts. Obviously, we also need to strengthen defensive midfield.
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I also see Nikolic as a midfielder, but playing attack would not really be a move. He played attack as a junior and had a great year. Even this year, he was moved all around including sometimes setting up behind, rather than inverting from the midfield. Yes, d mid is an area where we could improve and I've mentioned incoming Jaxon Smart based on his size and speed, although I don't know if he has played defense before. I also like the idea of moving Box to offense if we can somehow spare him. He was a high scoring, all around mid in HS, has speed and a shot-- and his size would not be as much of an issue as it sometimes is on d.
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A bit off topic, but with the PLL season starting today, here’s a rundown of Cornell alums on the PLL rosters:

Atlas — Teat, Petterson, Adler
Cannons - Donville and Pulver
Redwoods — Pannell and Piatelli

Feel free to chime in if I’ve missed anyone.
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Ryan Waldman had 6/2 in the North Jersey group 4 semifinal tournament game against Montclair:

https://www.hudl.com/profile/14533893/R ... dman/about
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GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 3:07 pm
10stone5 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 2:57 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 2:03 pm
Ezra White wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:57 pm
Powellfan22 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:09 am
jfeely wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am Anyone know where Adler likely to play next year?
The PLL. He was the first pick in the draft.
Does the PLL pay enough, even for its #1 pick, that he won't need another job too?
I hear it's easy to live off $35k a year...
He’s BSing,

Course you have the rest of the year to earn a living
plus clubs, camps,

he can do all right for his age.
One of my good friends plays in both NLL/PLL... very good player in both. You know him if you follow the sport.

He is not making more than 35k from PLL a year and does have a day job...
According to Lacrosse Runner blog as of 2023,

What is the highest PLL salary?

The highest salary in the Premier Lacrosse League (PLL) is currently $107,028 a year.

Those with the lowest paid salaries can expect to make around $43,000 annually, while the highest earners have a salary of up to $168,000 annually. This means potential earnings can range from $43,000 to $145,000, depending on skill level and location.

These wide discrepancies in pay suggest that there may be plenty of opportunities for experienced lacrosse players to advance and enjoy higher salaries.
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RE: Previous posters question on Adler's plans

-I read that he will be joining CAA (Creative Artist Agency) after the PLL season.
-I watched a bit of his first PLL game yesterday (Atlas vs. Redwoods). Primarily (but not exclusively) due to a shorter shot clock (52 seconds) & an even shorter 32 second shot clock after certain FO's, it's very much of a different game from the 6 on 6 we typically see in college. Up and down the field all game. Exhausting.
Adler plays close, along with Brent Makar, also making his professional debut. In the first half in particular, you could see that they will have to adjust to the PLL game. I couldn't help but see in the 1st half they were caught in "no man's land" quite a bit. Quint also overserved that they were a step or two late in slides and shows. He also remarked that the pace of the game in the attack zone is so much quicker, that defenders can't even take a few seconds off when the ball is on the other side of the net. Perhaps not coincidentally, I thought Adler and Makar definitely appeared to have adjusted in the 2nd half and were acclimating to the very different PLL game
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There were a couple of instances when switches or slides resulted in an Adler-Panell matchup. That was fun, and Adler did well against that old guy.
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