Cornell 2024

[BigTurn]

What a dirty play that was. No respect for Penn after that crap

I can't believe that Quint is defending thar hit as clean...

100% a penalty but I don’t think there’s anything dirty there. Kirst clearly trips into him.

I'm assuming this post was referring to the previous hit from behind. I don't think this hit was dirty so much as unfortunate. That said, still deserves the 2 minute unreleasable. Intent has nothing to do with it.

Talking about the hit on Kirst just now at the crease. Yes, definitely deserving of a penalty, but I don’t agree it was dirty or intentional. Think that’s what Chousnake was saying, unless he meant a different play.

After rewatching two of the hits from last night as posted recently on LacrosseNetwork, i was wrong. Those two hits on Kirst by #54 (3 seconds late and from behind), and by Leveille were complete BS. Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out.

As I noted on the Ivy thread, I thought that the hit from behind might have merited an ejection.

"Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out." Seriously, CU fans don't believe this from a ND troll? I sure hope not.

I know that kind of scumbaggery flies at cuse as well, but go watch that hit from behind 3 seconds after Kirst gets rid of the ball and tell me they weren’t trying to take him out. You’re a clown.

That first hit from behind was as dirty a play as I've seen in a long time and warranted more than a two minute penalty. It should have been 3 minutes non-releasable and an ejection. There is no justification for that hit, from behind, that late. The second hit was bang/bang. It was a penalty, but it was a lacrosse play. The first hit took some premeditation and malice. There is no defending that play. No 18-22 year old should be hit like that. Think of how bad that hit in the back could have been and the injuries it could have caused. Just a terrible awful play.

Agree 100%. Second hit was bad but no intent, just playing hard. First was completely unacceptable.

[another fan]

GT wins it in OT 11/10

[CU77]

Gt takes it, after getting a shot clock reset that replay showed they clearly should not have gotten.

Big Red's hopes dodge the first of 3 bullets.

We're all Pennsylvanians now!

[faircornell]

What a dirty play that was. No respect for Penn after that crap

I can't believe that Quint is defending thar hit as clean...

100% a penalty but I don’t think there’s anything dirty there. Kirst clearly trips into him.

I'm assuming this post was referring to the previous hit from behind. I don't think this hit was dirty so much as unfortunate. That said, still deserves the 2 minute unreleasable. Intent has nothing to do with it.

Talking about the hit on Kirst just now at the crease. Yes, definitely deserving of a penalty, but I don’t agree it was dirty or intentional. Think that’s what Chousnake was saying, unless he meant a different play.

After rewatching two of the hits from last night as posted recently on LacrosseNetwork, i was wrong. Those two hits on Kirst by #54 (3 seconds late and from behind), and by Leveille were complete BS. Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out.

As I noted on the Ivy thread, I thought that the hit from behind might have merited an ejection.

"Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out." Seriously, CU fans don't believe this from a ND troll? I sure hope not.

I know that kind of scumbaggery flies at cuse as well, but go watch that hit from behind 3 seconds after Kirst gets rid of the ball and tell me they weren’t trying to take him out. You’re a clown.

That first hit from behind was as dirty a play as I've seen in a long time and warranted more than a two minute penalty. It should have been 3 minutes non-releasable and an ejection. There is no justification for that hit, from behind, that late. The second hit was bang/bang. It was a penalty, but it was a lacrosse play. The first hit took some premeditation and malice. There is no defending that play. No 18-22 year old should be hit like that. Think of how bad that hit in the back could have been and the injuries it could have caused. Just a terrible awful play.

Agree 100%. Second hit was bad but no intent, just playing hard. First was completely unacceptable.

Sorry... hitting directly in the back with a body check is, by itself, intent. It's illegal and at the DI level some form of player control is expected. Ignoring the rules is, by definition, "intent".

[BigTurn]

What a dirty play that was. No respect for Penn after that crap

I can't believe that Quint is defending thar hit as clean...

100% a penalty but I don’t think there’s anything dirty there. Kirst clearly trips into him.

I'm assuming this post was referring to the previous hit from behind. I don't think this hit was dirty so much as unfortunate. That said, still deserves the 2 minute unreleasable. Intent has nothing to do with it.

Talking about the hit on Kirst just now at the crease. Yes, definitely deserving of a penalty, but I don’t agree it was dirty or intentional. Think that’s what Chousnake was saying, unless he meant a different play.

After rewatching two of the hits from last night as posted recently on LacrosseNetwork, i was wrong. Those two hits on Kirst by #54 (3 seconds late and from behind), and by Leveille were complete BS. Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out.

As I noted on the Ivy thread, I thought that the hit from behind might have merited an ejection.

"Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out." Seriously, CU fans don't believe this from a ND troll? I sure hope not.

I know that kind of scumbaggery flies at cuse as well, but go watch that hit from behind 3 seconds after Kirst gets rid of the ball and tell me they weren’t trying to take him out. You’re a clown.

That first hit from behind was as dirty a play as I've seen in a long time and warranted more than a two minute penalty. It should have been 3 minutes non-releasable and an ejection. There is no justification for that hit, from behind, that late. The second hit was bang/bang. It was a penalty, but it was a lacrosse play. The first hit took some premeditation and malice. There is no defending that play. No 18-22 year old should be hit like that. Think of how bad that hit in the back could have been and the injuries it could have caused. Just a terrible awful play.

Agree 100%. Second hit was bad but no intent, just playing hard. First was completely unacceptable.

Sorry... hitting directly in the back with a body check is, by itself, intent. It's illegal and at the DI level some form of player control is expected. Ignoring the rules is, by definition, "intent".

Maybe read what i wrote again. The one from straight behind was the first hit on Kirst. The second was Levelle hitting him as he fell towards the crease.

[faircornell]

What a dirty play that was. No respect for Penn after that crap

I can't believe that Quint is defending thar hit as clean...

100% a penalty but I don’t think there’s anything dirty there. Kirst clearly trips into him.

I'm assuming this post was referring to the previous hit from behind. I don't think this hit was dirty so much as unfortunate. That said, still deserves the 2 minute unreleasable. Intent has nothing to do with it.

Talking about the hit on Kirst just now at the crease. Yes, definitely deserving of a penalty, but I don’t agree it was dirty or intentional. Think that’s what Chousnake was saying, unless he meant a different play.

After rewatching two of the hits from last night as posted recently on LacrosseNetwork, i was wrong. Those two hits on Kirst by #54 (3 seconds late and from behind), and by Leveille were complete BS. Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out.

As I noted on the Ivy thread, I thought that the hit from behind might have merited an ejection.

"Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out." Seriously, CU fans don't believe this from a ND troll? I sure hope not.

I know that kind of scumbaggery flies at cuse as well, but go watch that hit from behind 3 seconds after Kirst gets rid of the ball and tell me they weren’t trying to take him out. You’re a clown.

That first hit from behind was as dirty a play as I've seen in a long time and warranted more than a two minute penalty. It should have been 3 minutes non-releasable and an ejection. There is no justification for that hit, from behind, that late. The second hit was bang/bang. It was a penalty, but it was a lacrosse play. The first hit took some premeditation and malice. There is no defending that play. No 18-22 year old should be hit like that. Think of how bad that hit in the back could have been and the injuries it could have caused. Just a terrible awful play.

Agree 100%. Second hit was bad but no intent, just playing hard. First was completely unacceptable.

Sorry... hitting directly in the back with a body check is, by itself, intent. It's illegal and at the DI level some form of player control is expected. Ignoring the rules is, by definition, "intent".

Maybe read what i wrote again. The one from straight behind was the first hit on Kirst. The second was Levelle hitting him as he fell towards the crease.

My apologies. However, and addressing your point, it's hard to say regarding "intent".... I don't understand why you lower your body to hit a player who is falling. Penn played an outstanding defensive game. However, stricter referees could have justifiably made more punitive calls.

[BigTurn]

What a dirty play that was. No respect for Penn after that crap

I can't believe that Quint is defending thar hit as clean...

100% a penalty but I don’t think there’s anything dirty there. Kirst clearly trips into him.

I'm assuming this post was referring to the previous hit from behind. I don't think this hit was dirty so much as unfortunate. That said, still deserves the 2 minute unreleasable. Intent has nothing to do with it.

Talking about the hit on Kirst just now at the crease. Yes, definitely deserving of a penalty, but I don’t agree it was dirty or intentional. Think that’s what Chousnake was saying, unless he meant a different play.

After rewatching two of the hits from last night as posted recently on LacrosseNetwork, i was wrong. Those two hits on Kirst by #54 (3 seconds late and from behind), and by Leveille were complete BS. Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out.

As I noted on the Ivy thread, I thought that the hit from behind might have merited an ejection.

"Fairly obvious the game plan was to take Kirst out." Seriously, CU fans don't believe this from a ND troll? I sure hope not.

I know that kind of scumbaggery flies at cuse as well, but go watch that hit from behind 3 seconds after Kirst gets rid of the ball and tell me they weren’t trying to take him out. You’re a clown.

That first hit from behind was as dirty a play as I've seen in a long time and warranted more than a two minute penalty. It should have been 3 minutes non-releasable and an ejection. There is no justification for that hit, from behind, that late. The second hit was bang/bang. It was a penalty, but it was a lacrosse play. The first hit took some premeditation and malice. There is no defending that play. No 18-22 year old should be hit like that. Think of how bad that hit in the back could have been and the injuries it could have caused. Just a terrible awful play.

Agree 100%. Second hit was bad but no intent, just playing hard. First was completely unacceptable.

Sorry... hitting directly in the back with a body check is, by itself, intent. It's illegal and at the DI level some form of player control is expected. Ignoring the rules is, by definition, "intent".

Maybe read what i wrote again. The one from straight behind was the first hit on Kirst. The second was Levelle hitting him as he fell towards the crease.

My apologies. However, and addressing your point, it's hard to say regarding "intent".... I don't understand why you lower your body to hit a player who is falling. Penn played an outstanding defensive game. However, stricter referees could have justifiably made more punitive calls.

Yes, hard to say intent. Levelles can be explained away as a bang bang play. The other, the kid takes 3 steps after Kirst got rid of the ball. Think you can infer when he knew the ball was gone and made a conscious decision to hit him squarely in the numbers anyway. Scummy play.

[another fan]

Michigan up 5-1 over PSU after 1 Q

[FannOLax]

Well, PSU did come from way behind to beat Yale.

[another fan]

Now 9-3 Michigan at half.

[semsox]

I can't believe the Ivy is going to be a 1 bid league. Just doesn't make sense

[norcalhop]

would have expected Cornell plus winner of ivy.

[xxxxxxx]

If Michigan wins is Big Red out and is the Ivy a one bid league?

[norcalhop]

Announcers are saying Princeton and Penn would be the only two in.

[10stone5]

Notre Dame ( 11 - 1 ) 1 at large
Duke ( 12 - 4 ) 2 at large
Johns Hopkins ( 10 - 4 ) 3 at large
Syracuse ( 11 - 5 ) 4 at large
Virginia ( 10 - 5 ) 5 at large
Penn State ( 11 - 3 ) 6 at large
Denver ( 11 - 3 ) 7 at large
Maryland ( 8 - 5 ) 8 at large 8
Georgetown ( 12 - 3 ) 9 aq
Penn ( 9 - 5 ) 10
Princeton ( 10 - 4 ) 11
Cornell ( 9 - 5 ) 12
Yale ( 11 - 4 ) 13
St Josephs (PA) ( 12 - 3 ) 14
Michigan ( 9 - 6 ) 15
Towson ( 13 - 3 ) 16

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Yeah - they're out.
Only the Ivy League AQ this year.

[semsox]

Short of Maryland or Virginia being left out, it'll be a 1 bid Ivy:

ACC: ND, Syr, UVA, Duke
Big Ten: Michigan (AQ), PSU, Maryland, Hopkins
Big East: Georgetown (AQ), Denver
Ivy: Winner
Patriot: Winner
MAAC: Sacred Heart
A10: St. Joe's
CAA: Towson
American East: Albany
ASUN: Winner

[jrn19]

Michigan wins and there are 4 at-large teams from the ACC, 3 from the Big Ten (Hop, Penn State, Maryland) and then Denver

Ivy title game tomorrow is a play-in game

[10stone5]

When were the top 8 RPI teams all at large, when did this last happen - never would be my guess.

[ctbagataway]

Queue the moral outrage from the ESPN shrills about how Cornell and the loser of the ILT final game got screwed by a four bid ACC. Or maybe that won’t happen.

[jrn19]

Short of Maryland or Virginia being left out, it'll be a 1 bid Ivy:

ACC: ND, Syr, UVA, Duke
Big Ten: Michigan (AQ), PSU, Maryland, Hopkins
Big East: Georgetown (AQ), Denver
Ivy: Winner
Patriot: Winner
MAAC: Sacred Heart
A10: St. Joe's
CAA: Towson
American East: Albany
ASUN: Winner

Maryland and Virginia are gonna get home games.

Penn State has the H2H's over Cornell and Yale, which greatly damages their case. Princeton needed to win the AQ coming in. You could try and squint and make a case for Penn over Penn State, but it's not really there.

It is crazy how it all happened to Cornell, they probably had a >90% chance of making it this time last time last weekend. But that's why you're not a lock till you're a lock