Johns Hopkins 2024

[jhu06]

. Bottom line: if Hopkins makes it a 6v6 game, they win. If the offense turns the ball over and takes bad shots early in possessions, creating transition goals for the opponent and wearing down the defense, they may not.

That’s Hopkins lacrosse, always has been. I think fans for this style should be happy with Milliman and his crew.

Which leads to my question: will you folks feel this is a successful season if Hop misses the Final Four? Just curious.

As a Syracuse fan, I think the Orange could lose in the first round, or win the whole thing. Have no clue, but I’ve really enjoyed their play again, just curious if you all felt the same way about Hopkins .

Memorial Day A Season
Final Four B season
Everything else not so good but there's a lot of momentum program wise. I don't have the data but feels like PM is going to be one of the youngest coaches in the ncaa tournament this year, certainly on the younger side among the acc/b1g coaches aside from Conry.

https://bigten.org/news/2024/4/23/mens- ... wards.aspx
Kilrain-HF16's Diaper Dandy got another player of the week award along with Ierlan.

Deans is apparently a Mechanical Engineering Major. Must be a very smart dude.
Congratulations to MechE student Patrick Deans and the rest of the JHU men's lacrosse team for winning the Big Ten regular season title!

[Powellfan22]

Ierlan might be a 1st team all american

Who wants to chip in to fund the Gianfacaro NIL? I'm good for $20.

It's an interesting question. I haven't heard anything, but it would seem like the Jays make sense on paper but will be competing with a few other teams (if the decision isn't made already, it very well may be but is being kept quiet for obvious reasons).

Duke (Jameison), Virginia (Nunes), Maryland (McNaney), Penn State (Fracyon), Rutgers (Stoller), and Georgetown (Moore) are all set at goalie next year. Does that mean none of them would kick the tires on Mike G.? Not necessarily. He's that good, you probably have to do your due diligence. But I do think it's unlikely he ends up at any of those places.

The contenders would appear to be us, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. Cuse loses Mark — they have some younger guys their fans are excited about but I don't think that stops Gait from pursuing. Obviously they managed to get the two Princeton middies this year and have a large Culver presence so they will likely be in the mix. Notre Dame is Notre Dame, they always seem to bring in a key transfer or two and they will have a glaring hole at the position with the graduation of Entenmann. Then there is us — perhaps Gianforcaro will see how well we've integrated another Ivy goalie into the group this year and see it as a good opportunity. No idea what his career ambitions are, that's always a major factor that you can't really control.

There's also UNC and Michigan — you should never be shocked if a guy elects to take a grad year at either of those schools, though if winning is a priority then one of the others above seems more likely.

That’s a good breakdown. I would only add that the two “heir apparent” goalies at Syracuse and Notre Dame, were the top two goalie recruits in the ‘22 class. Riccardelli (4 overall) and McCool (20 overall) have already bided their time, and I can only assume are expecting to take over next year.

I agree that most coaches would take a proven thing like Gianforcaro over a player with no meaningful minutes, but I guess it does add some intrigue (and maybe some more players to the transfer portal) to have players that highly ranked waiting in the wings. I would guess Notre Dame is the favorite, but he’ll have lots of good options.

[51percentcorn]

Which leads to my question: will you folks feel this is a successful season if Hop misses the Final Four? Just curious.

It is of course hard to get to the FF and the path is so important. Last year Hopkins had to get through Notre Dame - Penn State had Princeton and Army so alot depends on the seeding which is complicated by the fact that the NCAA is interested - shall we say - in regional match-ups for travel and revenue. If Hopkins won their first round game and was playing UVA for a second time or Maryland for a second or even third time (or a G'town) would I feel incredibly confident? No.
If and when they strike out of the tournament - I will be bummed for a moment - but this season has been alot of fun and while we are now discussing lack of scoring - the season has been very memorable:
- All 3 losses by 1 goal - one of them as wierd an ending as you can possibly craft
- Handing then #1 or #2 UVA their first loss of the season and at Klockner
- 2 OT wins and tension filled BIG games
- A win over Maryland and retention of the Ugly Crab

I would think a first round loss at home would then lead to howling that it was less than a successful season - a QF loss would depend in my mind a little bit on who they play but ultimately this season more than any in quite some time has raised interest and seen competitiveness so it has to be successful in that regard. The 2018 team was certainly competitive but had to have a miraculous comeback against G'town in the 1st round and while they made Duke sit up and take notice in the 3rd quarter - not many were thinking that one was going into the W column. But I guess that team and last year's team - both seeded 5th is the highest seeding since 2012 and the last Final Four team had 6 losses going into the tournament and was unseeded. I think an interesting question for this year's bracket - will all 4 ACC teams be on different sides? In other words will a non ACC team in many scenarios have to basically win the ACC tournament for a National Championship?

[DocBarrister]

The Jays are 8th in the country in turnovers per game. 15 TOs isn't bad in the shot clock era. That's better than the vast majority of teams' season averages. It was only about one above the Jays' season average of 13.9. The only tournament team with a better mark (barely) is Notre Dame at 13.6.

Doc, I think you should send an email to the staff saying Collison should dodge more. They will appreciate the insight.

I’m sure they already know.

Didn’t PM say at halftime recently that Hopkins had to get more aggressive on offense? And they did in that game.

I’m saying the Big Guys should dodge more aggressively in the first, second, and third quarters of games … just as we saw them do successfully late in several games.

DocBarrister

[jhu06]

Milliman, who won conference coach of the year today, wasn't asked about it saturday but wonder what he learned about preparing the team for the postseason after last year and in particular the loss to maryland.

He had some comments in the preseason about regular season scheduling tweaks he made but I don't remember seeing what he said about the postseason. Guess he didn't want to get ahead of himself, but I'm sure it's something the staff thought about.

[a fan]

Which leads to my question: will you folks feel this is a successful season if Hop misses the Final Four? Just curious.

It is of course hard to get to the FF and the path is so important. Last year Hopkins had to get through Notre Dame - Penn State had Princeton and Army so alot depends on the seeding which is complicated by the fact that the NCAA is interested - shall we say - in regional match-ups for travel and revenue. If Hopkins won their first round game and was playing UVA for a second time or Maryland for a second or even third time (or a G'town) would I feel incredibly confident? No.
If and when they strike out of the tournament - I will be bummed for a moment - but this season has been alot of fun and while we are now discussing lack of scoring - the season has been very memorable:
- All 3 losses by 1 goal - one of them as wierd an ending as you can possibly craft
- Handing then #1 or #2 UVA their first loss of the season and at Klockner
- 2 OT wins and tension filled BIG games
- A win over Maryland and retention of the Ugly Crab

I would think a first round loss at home would then lead to howling that it was less than a successful season - a QF loss would depend in my mind a little bit on who they play but ultimately this season more than any in quite some time has raised interest and seen competitiveness so it has to be successful in that regard. The 2018 team was certainly competitive but had to have a miraculous comeback against G'town in the 1st round and while they made Duke sit up and take notice in the 3rd quarter - not many were thinking that one was going into the W column. But I guess that team and last year's team - both seeded 5th is the highest seeding since 2012 and the last Final Four team had 6 losses going into the tournament and was unseeded. I think an interesting question for this year's bracket - will all 4 ACC teams be on different sides? In other words will a non ACC team in many scenarios have to basically win the ACC tournament for a National Championship?

Appreciate the answer, thank you.

[HopFan16]

Ross Scott over Angelus for 1st team All-B1G might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my entire life, and I've seen a lot of DocB and jhu06 posts.

Scott (13 games): 19 G, 23 A, 42 pts (3.2 per game), 26% shooting
Angelus (13 games): 22 G, 33 A, 55 pts (4.2 per game), 52% shooting

When the two teams met, Scott had 0 goals and 2 assists. Angelus had 3 goals and 5 assists. Hopkins won by 5. Rutgers went 1-4 and finished last in conference. Hopkins went 5-0 and finished first.

The coaches who voted on this should be sent to the Hague. This is a war crime.

They also had three SSDMs on the second team, and none of them were Brett Martin (or Aviles, for that matter). No B1G defenseman had more player of the week awards this year than Szuluk, and he didn't make either team. Beyond bizarre. Feel like some of the other B1G coaches were butthurt and didn't want to vote too many of our guys in.

[steel_hop]

Thank you '16 - somebdy is watching the games. Yes - the offense needs to improve to play and win on MDW - but it's questionable that it will. It is so much more involved than just 3 guys potentially dodging on shortsticks. Here are the real issues or inputs IMO
- First and foremost - this is what Hopkins WANTS to do - or maybe better put FEELS like they NEED to do. They take 38 shots per game - in the last 3 games against better defenses and 2 AA goalies they have taken 34/36 and 30 shots. You shoot 30 some odd times per game - have a reasonable shot percentage in the low 30ish range - guess what? You are going to score 10-11-12 goals per game. QK says minimally invasive - PM/JC/JK - again IMO - probably think - shorten the game/don't really want 35+ face-offs/if my defense gets adequate rest during the game I like my chances.
- Second - as '16 pointed out dodging on a shortstick - particularly some of the shortsticks Penn State/Ohio State/Maryland have - is not an automatic recipe for success - they are often the strongest or amongst the strongest players on the team - they're faster and quicker usually than their long stick brethern many times and as long as they are not outweighed by 30-40 lbs they can be very effective against mid-fielders even bigger taller ones. Even Schutz only has 20 goals - I say only - but the point is made. Then of course if a player like a Schutz or Collison get a shortie match-up - it is immediately supported
- Third - As the combined 16 assists between the three of them demonstrates - the three Hopkins big mid-fielders are not exceptional passers. They are very unselfish - Grimes and Peshko have done a wonderful job reducing turnovers. They combined for 41 last year - right now they are at 15. That's a couple extra possessions per game that the defense rests and some time comes off the clock which helps tire the opponents defense. But when they dodge - they dodge to score and everyone knows it.
- Fourth - injuries or whatever - have unquestionably hurt dodging ability. If you were going to identify the two most dangerous dodgers on the team to both score and produce slides creating openings English and Melendez would be at the top of the list. I am not trying to call him out - I want him on the team - but one simply can't ignore the numbers 53 and 21 which are Melendez's respective point totals from '23 to this point in 24. On a per game average for 13 games he was at 40 points through 13 games in '23 so his drop off is pretty much half. He has started every game this year - his shot percentage is off by 14 percentage points (a drop of 36%). This is the 800 lb gorilla with respect to the offense. If you look at almost every team you would craft a national championship argument for - no team outside the BIG 10 and the BIG East (Denver really does it by Committee) has a point line for the starting attack of 55/44/21 - the closest you can come is Notre Dame's 49/47/32 - and they have played 3 fewer games and Taylor's 32 is comprised of 29 goals so it's pretty easy to identify his job. The only other 2 attackmen in the compound of the Duke/Syracuse/Yale/Cornell/UVA etc. where a starting attackman is in the less than 40 point level is Yale where the designated goal scorer is at 35 and 3 for 38 and the Cornell freshman is at 33 points.
- If anyone thinks hoisting the Gold trophy on MD depends on Collison/Peshko and Grimes suddenly become dodging monsters they will be incrediby disappointed. Defense/goaltending and timely shooting is what you got - that's alot - might not be enough

This is a very good analysis. And on some level the offense is the offense and it isn't going to change much at this point in the season. The guys that are going to break out and play well have already done that. You can see some flashes here and there. They clearly want to get one of their freshman guys going - be it Ayers or Chauvette (who appears to have hit a freshman wall - I didn't hear his name called much or at all on Saturday) but right now, the team is going to go with its big time players.

And I completely understand that Hopkins is only going to go as far as their defense, goaltending and trying to limit opponent's face-off wins is going to take them. But, there are teams like ND that have a really good defense but also have a legit offense. The team is going to have to get more from their offense than they are getting now. If it means Collinson (or other players) takes a few more dodges earlier in the game (not that Doc is right) but at a minimum use him more to get other guys set up.

My feeling is just that at some point in the next however many games, the team is going to have to rely on their offense to score. Maybe it isn't a track meet but 8-9 goals isn't likely going to get it done.

[Ruffled_Feathers]

Which leads to my question: will you folks feel this is a successful season if Hop misses the Final Four? Just curious.

It is of course hard to get to the FF and the path is so important. Last year Hopkins had to get through Notre Dame - Penn State had Princeton and Army so alot depends on the seeding which is complicated by the fact that the NCAA is interested - shall we say - in regional match-ups for travel and revenue. If Hopkins won their first round game and was playing UVA for a second time or Maryland for a second or even third time (or a G'town) would I feel incredibly confident? No.
If and when they strike out of the tournament - I will be bummed for a moment - but this season has been alot of fun and while we are now discussing lack of scoring - the season has been very memorable:
- All 3 losses by 1 goal - one of them as wierd an ending as you can possibly craft
- Handing then #1 or #2 UVA their first loss of the season and at Klockner
- 2 OT wins and tension filled BIG games
- A win over Maryland and retention of the Ugly Crab

I would think a first round loss at home would then lead to howling that it was less than a successful season - a QF loss would depend in my mind a little bit on who they play but ultimately this season more than any in quite some time has raised interest and seen competitiveness so it has to be successful in that regard. The 2018 team was certainly competitive but had to have a miraculous comeback against G'town in the 1st round and while they made Duke sit up and take notice in the 3rd quarter - not many were thinking that one was going into the W column. But I guess that team and last year's team - both seeded 5th is the highest seeding since 2012 and the last Final Four team had 6 losses going into the tournament and was unseeded. I think an interesting question for this year's bracket - will all 4 ACC teams be on different sides? In other words will a non ACC team in many scenarios have to basically win the ACC tournament for a National Championship?

Yeah, this is pretty much where I am at. The season in many ways has already been a complete success because they have done well and I have enjoyed watching them play so far. From the general success of the year you've already set yourself up well enough as a "name" for recruiting purposes this summer and while a deep playoff run would be a feather in your cap in that regard and great for me as a fan to continue experiencing, it is hardly expected.

Presuming regardless of B1G tourney outcomes the boys are a lock for a 1st round home game, losing that would be generally disappointing but with the QFs and beyond the possible matchups and expected outcomes are all over the place. There isn't really any shame to be had from losing in the Quarterfinals to Notre Dame or a second/potentially third meeting against plenty of these other teams is still a coin toss. They Jays are a great team this year but they are still clearly operating with some fairly thin margins for error.

[jhu06]

Big Ten left Szuluk off their all conference lists even though he has more player of the week honors than anyone and gave the goalie of the 6th place team the freshman of the year award over Kilrain. Dixon better have answers and condemnations.

IL has denver and cuse over hopkins in bracketology even though all of Hopkins other metrics and stats are better solely because of head to head. More clown stuff. Notion that the top team in the 2nd best conference would be a 5 seed behind a 3rd place team and a conference champ of the 4th best conference is a joke.

[coda]

Ross Scott over Angelus for 1st team All-B1G might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my entire life, and I've seen a lot of DocB and jhu06 posts.

Scott (13 games): 19 G, 23 A, 42 pts (3.2 per game), 26% shooting
Angelus (13 games): 22 G, 33 A, 55 pts (4.2 per game), 52% shooting

When the two teams met, Scott had 0 goals and 2 assists. Angelus had 3 goals and 5 assists. Hopkins won by 5. Rutgers went 1-4 and finished last in conference. Hopkins went 5-0 and finished first.

The coaches who voted on this should be sent to the Hague. This is a war crime.

They also had three SSDMs on the second team, and none of them were Brett Martin (or Aviles, for that matter). No B1G defenseman had more player of the week awards this year than Szuluk, and he didn't make either team. Beyond bizarre. Feel like some of the other B1G coaches were butthurt and didn't want to vote too many of our guys in.

I have to say that made me laugh.. You maybe taking this a tad too hard

[coda]

Thank you '16 - somebdy is watching the games. Yes - the offense needs to improve to play and win on MDW - but it's questionable that it will. It is so much more involved than just 3 guys potentially dodging on shortsticks. Here are the real issues or inputs IMO
- First and foremost - this is what Hopkins WANTS to do - or maybe better put FEELS like they NEED to do. They take 38 shots per game - in the last 3 games against better defenses and 2 AA goalies they have taken 34/36 and 30 shots. You shoot 30 some odd times per game - have a reasonable shot percentage in the low 30ish range - guess what? You are going to score 10-11-12 goals per game. QK says minimally invasive - PM/JC/JK - again IMO - probably think - shorten the game/don't really want 35+ face-offs/if my defense gets adequate rest during the game I like my chances.
- Second - as '16 pointed out dodging on a shortstick - particularly some of the shortsticks Penn State/Ohio State/Maryland have - is not an automatic recipe for success - they are often the strongest or amongst the strongest players on the team - they're faster and quicker usually than their long stick brethern many times and as long as they are not outweighed by 30-40 lbs they can be very effective against mid-fielders even bigger taller ones. Even Schutz only has 20 goals - I say only - but the point is made. Then of course if a player like a Schutz or Collison get a shortie match-up - it is immediately supported
- Third - As the combined 16 assists between the three of them demonstrates - the three Hopkins big mid-fielders are not exceptional passers. They are very unselfish - Grimes and Peshko have done a wonderful job reducing turnovers. They combined for 41 last year - right now they are at 15. That's a couple extra possessions per game that the defense rests and some time comes off the clock which helps tire the opponents defense. But when they dodge - they dodge to score and everyone knows it.
- Fourth - injuries or whatever - have unquestionably hurt dodging ability. If you were going to identify the two most dangerous dodgers on the team to both score and produce slides creating openings English and Melendez would be at the top of the list. I am not trying to call him out - I want him on the team - but one simply can't ignore the numbers 53 and 21 which are Melendez's respective point totals from '23 to this point in 24. On a per game average for 13 games he was at 40 points through 13 games in '23 so his drop off is pretty much half. He has started every game this year - his shot percentage is off by 14 percentage points (a drop of 36%). This is the 800 lb gorilla with respect to the offense. If you look at almost every team you would craft a national championship argument for - no team outside the BIG 10 and the BIG East (Denver really does it by Committee) has a point line for the starting attack of 55/44/21 - the closest you can come is Notre Dame's 49/47/32 - and they have played 3 fewer games and Taylor's 32 is comprised of 29 goals so it's pretty easy to identify his job. The only other 2 attackmen in the compound of the Duke/Syracuse/Yale/Cornell/UVA etc. where a starting attackman is in the less than 40 point level is Yale where the designated goal scorer is at 35 and 3 for 38 and the Cornell freshman is at 33 points.
- If anyone thinks hoisting the Gold trophy on MD depends on Collison/Peshko and Grimes suddenly become dodging monsters they will be incrediby disappointed. Defense/goaltending and timely shooting is what you got - that's alot - might not be enough

This is a very good analysis. And on some level the offense is the offense and it isn't going to change much at this point in the season. The guys that are going to break out and play well have already done that. You can see some flashes here and there. They clearly want to get one of their freshman guys going - be it Ayers or Chauvette (who appears to have hit a freshman wall - I didn't hear his name called much or at all on Saturday) but right now, the team is going to go with its big time players.

And I completely understand that Hopkins is only going to go as far as their defense, goaltending and trying to limit opponent's face-off wins is going to take them. But, there are teams like ND that have a really good defense but also have a legit offense. The team is going to have to get more from their offense than they are getting now. If it means Collinson (or other players) takes a few more dodges earlier in the game (not that Doc is right) but at a minimum use him more to get other guys set up.

My feeling is just that at some point in the next however many games, the team is going to have to rely on their offense to score. Maybe it isn't a track meet but 8-9 goals isn't likely going to get it done.

I think Chauvette will be fine next year. Great shooter. Prior to the season I said I did not see a big role in the Hopkins offense for Chauvette. That isnt because of his talent. It is because of Degnon. Just redundant skill sets. They are both excellent shooters, with limited arsenals outside of shooting. I couldnt see putting both out on the field, unless you have 3-4 dodgers around them. I will make the call now, that he will be one of the best shooters in the Big 10 next year.

[HopFan16]

Big Ten left Szuluk off their all conference lists even though he has more player of the week honors than anyone and gave the goalie of the 6th place team the freshman of the year award over Kilrain. Dixon better have answers and condemnations.

You're not going to get anything from Dixon. He was the one clamoring all season for the Rutgers goalie to get it.

Kilrain has a B1G title and multiple All-American nods in his future. Rutgers can have their consolation prize.

The coaches who voted on this should be sent to the Hague. This is a war crime.

I have to say that made me laugh.. You maybe taking this a tad too hard

I was being tongue-in-cheek, but truthfully it is ridiculous.

[Powellfan22]

IL has denver and cuse over hopkins in bracketology even though all of Hopkins other metrics and stats are better solely because of head to head. More clown stuff. Notion that the top team in the 2nd best conference would be a 5 seed behind a 3rd place team and a conference champ of the 4th best conference is a joke.

Syracuse is second in the ACC at 3-1. Syracuse (2) has a better SOS than Hopkins (4). Nice try though.

[nyjay]

I was being tongue-in-cheek, but truthfully it is ridiculous.

Maybe there's something going on that I'm missing, but the whole list makes no sense. On the first team you have 3 A, 3 D, 2 G, 1 FOGO and 1 M? And not a single defensive midfielder (LSM or SSDM)? And on the second team you have 3 M, 1 LSM and 2 D? And you have Pehsko (good for him, but, huh?) on it? Even if you add Malone, Zap and Fracyon it makes no sense. Why not two teams that bear a resemblance to how the game is actually played?

I'm not sure who was smoking what . . .

[hmmm]

IL has denver and cuse over hopkins in bracketology even though all of Hopkins other metrics and stats are better solely because of head to head. More clown stuff. Notion that the top team in the 2nd best conference would be a 5 seed behind a 3rd place team and a conference champ of the 4th best conference is a joke.

Syracuse is second in the ACC at 3-1. Syracuse (2) has a better SOS than Hopkins (4). Nice try though.

Hopkins RPI is 3. Cuse is 5. Hop rSOR is 3. Cuse is 4. Nice try though. Agreed it's highly doubtful the committee would put 3 ACC teams and Denver ahead of Hop if they win the B1G tourney and go 7-0 in conference.

[StephenBaldwin]

IL has denver and cuse over hopkins in bracketology even though all of Hopkins other metrics and stats are better solely because of head to head. More clown stuff. Notion that the top team in the 2nd best conference would be a 5 seed behind a 3rd place team and a conference champ of the 4th best conference is a joke.

Syracuse is second in the ACC at 3-1. Syracuse (2) has a better SOS than Hopkins (4). Nice try though.

Hopkins RPI is 3. Cuse is 5. Hop rSOR is 3. Cuse is 4. Nice try though. Agreed it's highly doubtful the committee would put 3 ACC teams and Denver ahead of Hop if they win the B1G tourney and go 7-0 in conference.

Lmao why even play the game if you’re going to just disregard results. Denver and Cuse both beat Hopkins

[HopFan16]

I was being tongue-in-cheek, but truthfully it is ridiculous.

Maybe there's something going on that I'm missing, but the whole list makes no sense. On the first team you have 3 A, 3 D, 2 G, 1 FOGO and 1 M? And not a single defensive midfielder (LSM or SSDM)? And on the second team you have 3 M, 1 LSM and 2 D? And you have Pehsko (good for him, but, huh?) on it? Even if you add Malone, Zap and Fracyon it makes no sense. Why not two teams that bear a resemblance to how the game is actually played?

I'm not sure who was smoking what . . .

Pehsko is our representative on the sportsmanship team. That's a different thing.

I don't know how the coaches vote on this, maybe they are all asked to identify the X number of best players in the conference irrespective of position and then the teams are compiled. However they do it, it's asinine. How the heck did that OSU SSDM sneak in there over Martin and Aviles? How did Collison not get on there if the OSU SSDM did? (He's the one Collie weight-room'd to win in OT.) How is the defenseman with the most "defenseman of the week" honors this year not on either team? They rendered their own weekly award meaningless. It's all very amateurish from a league that is supposed to be better than that.

[hmmm]

IL has denver and cuse over hopkins in bracketology even though all of Hopkins other metrics and stats are better solely because of head to head. More clown stuff. Notion that the top team in the 2nd best conference would be a 5 seed behind a 3rd place team and a conference champ of the 4th best conference is a joke.

Syracuse is second in the ACC at 3-1. Syracuse (2) has a better SOS than Hopkins (4). Nice try though.

Hopkins RPI is 3. Cuse is 5. Hop rSOR is 3. Cuse is 4. Nice try though. Agreed it's highly doubtful the committee would put 3 ACC teams and Denver ahead of Hop if they win the B1G tourney and go 7-0 in conference.

Lmao why even play the game if you’re going to just disregard results. Denver and Cuse both beat Hopkins

H2H is actually fairly low in the criteria list. Committee looks at the season as a whole. The fluky end of the Denver game isn't going to sway them over the actual resume. Cuse has a better case to be above Hopkins but still would be surprised if Cuse gets seeded over a B1G champ Hopkins unless they win the ACC or at least make the finals. As of right now Hopkins would be seeded over Cuse imo

[StephenBaldwin]

IL has denver and cuse over hopkins in bracketology even though all of Hopkins other metrics and stats are better solely because of head to head. More clown stuff. Notion that the top team in the 2nd best conference would be a 5 seed behind a 3rd place team and a conference champ of the 4th best conference is a joke.

Syracuse is second in the ACC at 3-1. Syracuse (2) has a better SOS than Hopkins (4). Nice try though.

Hopkins RPI is 3. Cuse is 5. Hop rSOR is 3. Cuse is 4. Nice try though. Agreed it's highly doubtful the committee would put 3 ACC teams and Denver ahead of Hop if they win the B1G tourney and go 7-0 in conference.

Lmao why even play the game if you’re going to just disregard results. Denver and Cuse both beat Hopkins

H2H is actually fairly low in the criteria list. Committee looks at the season as a whole. The fluky end of the Denver game isn't going to sway them over the actual resume. Cuse has a better case to be above Hopkins but still would be surprised if Cuse gets seeded over a B1G champ Hopkins unless they win the ACC or at least make the finals. As of right now Hopkins would be seeded over Cuse imo

You would be surprised if the team who is within 2 on the RPI, has a higher SOS, is #2 in a stronger conference, and won head to head gets seeded higher…? Did I get that right