Healthcare

[youthathletics]

So what type of health care do we have at the VA?

The military is socialist? Oops, careful now or the right wingers will get mad at you.

Well, that is your second post avoiding the obvious quandary we have. And it IS the liberal side pushing the hardest for this socialized. The right AND left that depend on the VA already know it lacks proper care. Arguably the most important people in our country that support not only you and I, but those globally, are so very dependent on the VA, and it is and has been failing them for years.

[a fan]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

[Brooklyn]

So what type of health care do we have at the VA?

The military is socialist? Oops, careful now or the right wingers will get mad at you.

Well, that is your second post avoiding the obvious quandary we have. And it IS the liberal side pushing the hardest for this socialized. The right AND left that depend on the VA already know it lacks proper care. Arguably the most important people in our country that support not only you and I, but those globally, are so very dependent on the VA, and it is and has been failing them for years.

As I have also pointed out previously, those same tax dollars that suckers like you and I have paid worked quite well in providing Israel with its exemplary health care system (including free abortions to those who ask for it). As always this is a matter that you conveniently disregard.

See? Socialism works. And you pay for it every day.

[cradleandshoot]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

[a fan]

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

That makes me very happy. It's the ONE THING every citizen and politician should be behind: if we're gonna send our men and women into these hellhole battlefields, we should give them the very best care we can provide when they get back. And that includes mental health.

[cradleandshoot]

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

That makes me very happy. It's the ONE THING every citizen and politician should be behind: if we're gonna send our men and women into these hellhole battlefields, we should give them the very best care we can provide when they get back. And that includes mental health.

It makes me very happy as well. The government is also spending huge money to renovate the VA hospital in Canandaigua NY. Alot of disabled and elderly veterans call that place home.

[youthathletics]

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

That makes me very happy. It's the ONE THING every citizen and politician should be behind: if we're gonna send our men and women into these hellhole battlefields, we should give them the very best care we can provide when they get back. And that includes mental health.

It makes me very happy as well. The government is also spending huge money to renovate the VA hospital in Canandaigua NY. Alot of disabled and elderly veterans call that place home.

Thanks for your comments. I've worked in the DC VA hospital off and on for years, and this place was in shambles. in the last few years, they have finally began investing in infrastructure.

[cradleandshoot]

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

That makes me very happy. It's the ONE THING every citizen and politician should be behind: if we're gonna send our men and women into these hellhole battlefields, we should give them the very best care we can provide when they get back. And that includes mental health.

It makes me very happy as well. The government is also spending huge money to renovate the VA hospital in Canandaigua NY. Alot of disabled and elderly veterans call that place home.

Thanks for your comments. I've worked in the DC VA hospital off and on for years, and this place was in shambles. in the last few years, they have finally began investing in infrastructure.

It is about time. If anybody wants to witness the price we pay for our freedom, visit one of these hospitals. It is on display for everyone to see. It will warm your heart and make you want to cry at the same time. I'm so proud of my service to my country. I thought I went through a lot of tough times. I had a guy there who saw my cap and said thank you airborne. He was confined to a wheel chair after being injured in Vietnam. He is is thanking me for my service. I felt honored and unworthy of his thanks all at the same time. I barely made it out the front door before my tears started . It made me remember why my dad would never accept his purple heart . He remembered all of his buddies who were injured so badly. He just never felt he was worthy of accepting the medal. The medic had to suture his shrapnel wounds with safety pins. He was patched up and back on the front lines quickly. He never thought his wounds were that serious. He use to joke that the scar looked like a zipper on his back.

[Farfromgeneva]

My grandfather was a coroner for a Va hospital in Sayre PA which is close to Bath/Savona NY. This was the 1930s. That side of the family is hilt like a bunch of Rob Gronkowskis. Story goes they saves money in gurneys because he Douro throw the. Bodies over his shoulder and carry them.

Heard it a million times. Could be legend but he was a beast, could still break my hand when I was like 24 and he was 80+ with his handshake. Did in fact live 30yrs after having a quadruple bypass so we all believe that story.

[cradleandshoot]

My grandfather was a coroner for a Va hospital in Sayre PA which is close to Bath/Savona NY. This was the 1930s. That side of the family is hilt like a bunch of Rob Gronkowskis. Story goes they saves money in gurneys because he Douro throw the. Bodies over his shoulder and carry them.

Heard it a million times. Could be legend but he was a beast, could still break my hand when I was like 24 and he was 80+ with his handshake. Did in fact live 30yrs after having a quadruple bypass so we all believe that story.

I don't doubt your grandfather had all of the qualities you speak of. My dad had the same type of vise grip hands. Before he became sick at age 83 he would never use the snow blower we purchased for him. The driveway my childhood house was a bear to shovel. From the back garage to the street was normally a 2 hour ordeal. He shoveled it by hand and never complained. When I asked him why he would not use the snow blower he would tell me it was only a few inches of snow. That was my old man, he never complained he just did what he had to do. I miss him every damn day. Watching him get sick and die destroyed me back then in 2007. Time does not heal all wounds..

[Brooklyn]

The Affordable Care Act has significantly reduced racial disparities in healthcare access, report


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/affordable ... ealthcare/


The Affordable Care Act, passed in 2010 by former President Barack Obama, has expanded health insurance coverage across the U.S. and significantly reduced racial and ethnic disparities in access to healthcare, according to a new report by the Commonwealth Fund.

"Since its passage in 2010, the Affordable Care Act (ACA) has helped cut the U.S. uninsured rate nearly in half while significantly reducing racial and ethnic disparities in both insurance coverage and access to care — particularly in states that expanded their Medicaid programs," reads the report.

Data shows that prior to the 2013 implementation of the Medicaid expansion — a provision of the ACA that made more families eligible for Medicaid coverage — 40.2% of the Hispanic population, 24.4% of the Black population, and 14.5% of the White population were uninsured in America. However, by 2021, those numbers dropped significantly to 24.5%, 13.5%, and 8.2%, respectively.

With more than five million people gaining coverage between 2020 and 2022 over the course of the pandemic, the overall uninsured rate in the U.S. dropped to just 8%, a historic low, according to the report.




All the more reason for the USA to have universal health care just as they have in Israel and which is paid for by YOUR tax dollars.

[Brooklyn]

Guest editorial:


Bernie Sanders is a US Senator and the ranking member of the Senate budget committee. He represents the state of Vermont


It’s time to guarantee healthcare to all Americans as a human right ... It is time to end the international embarrassment of the US being the only major country that does not guarantee healthcare


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ie-sanders


Let’s be clear. The current healthcare system in the United States is totally broken, dysfunctional and cruel. It is a system which spends twice as much per capita as any other major country, while 85 million Americans are uninsured or underinsured, one out of four Americans cannot afford the cost of the prescription drugs their doctors prescribe, and where over 60,000 die each year because they don’t get to a doctor on time.

It is a system in which our life expectancy is lower than almost all other major countries and is actually declining, a system in which working-class and low-income Americans die at least ten years younger than wealthier Americans.

It’s not just trans kids: Republicans are coming after trans adults like me, too

It is a system in which some 500,000 people go bankrupt because of medically related debt.

It is a system in which large parts of our country are medically underserved, where rural hospitals are being shut down, and where people, even with decent insurance, have to travel hours in order to find a doctor.

It is a system in which, in the midst of a major mental health crisis, Americans are unable to find the affordable mental health treatment they need.

It is a system where, despite our huge expenditures, we don’t have enough doctors, nurses, dentists, mental health professionals, pharmacists and other healthcare professionals – and where we spend less than half as much of our healthcare dollars on primary care as do most other countries.

It is a system in which, while we are desperately in need of more health professionals, young people are graduating medical school, dental school or nursing school, hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt; a system in which Black, Latino and Native American doctors and nurses are grossly underrepresented as medical professionals.

It is a system in which healthcare for most Americans remains attached to employment. Incredibly, during the pandemic when millions lost their jobs, they also lost their healthcare. It is a system in which the quality of care you receive in this country is dependent on the generosity of your employer or whether you have a union. Not surprisingly, workers at McDonald’s do not receive the same quality care as executives on Wall Street.

All of that has got to change. The function of a rational and humane healthcare system is to provide quality care for all as a human right. It is not to make tens of billions of dollars every year for the insurance companies and the drug companies.

Yes. It is long overdue for us to end the international embarrassment of the United States being the only major country on earth that does not guarantee healthcare to all of our people. Now is the time to finally pass a Medicare for All single-payer program. And that is the legislation that I am introducing in the Senate this week with 14 co-sponsors. In the House there will be over 100 co-sponsors.

Let’s be honest. The debate over Medicare for All really has nothing to do with healthcare. It has everything to do with the extraordinary greed of the healthcare industry and their desire to maintain a system which makes them huge profits.

While ordinary Americans struggle to pay for healthcare, the seven largest health insurance companies in our country made over $69bn in profits last year and the top ten pharmaceutical companies made over $112bn.

The corporate opposition to the desperately needed reforms of our disastrous healthcare system is extraordinary.

Since 1998, the private healthcare industry has spent more than $11.4bn on lobbying and, over the last 30 years, has spent more than $1.8bn on campaign contributions to get Congress to do its bidding.

The pharmaceutical industry alone has over 1,800 lobbyists on Capitol Hill – including the former leadership of both political parties.

That’s how business is done in Washington. Well, we intend to change that dynamic. We intend to fight for legislation which ordinary Americans want, not what powerful special interests want.

Our Medicare For All legislation would provide comprehensive healthcare coverage to all without out-of-pocket expenses and, unlike the current system, it would provide full freedom of choice regarding healthcare providers.

No more insurance premiums, no more deductibles, no more co-payments, no more filling out endless forms and fighting with insurance companies.

And comprehensive means the coverage of dental care, vision, hearing aids, prescription drugs and home and community-based care.

Would a Medicare-for-all healthcare system be expensive? Yes. But, while providing comprehensive healthcare for all, it would be significantly LESS expensive than our current dysfunctional system because it would eliminate an enormous amount of the bureaucracy, profiteering, administrative costs and misplaced priorities inherent in our current for-profit system.

Under Medicare for All there would no longer be armies of people billing us, telling us what is covered and what is not covered and hounding us to pay our hospital bills. This simplicity not only substantially reduces administrative costs, but it would make life a lot easier for the American people who would never again have to fight their way through the nightmare of insurance company bureaucracy.

In fact, the congressional budget office has estimated that Medicare for All would save Americans $650bn a year.

Guaranteeing healthcare to all Americans as a human right would be a transformative moment for our country. It would not only keep people healthier, happier and increase life expectancy, it would be a major step forward in creating a more vibrant democracy. Imagine what it would mean if our government worked for ordinary people and not just powerful corporate interests.






Spoken like a true patriot. He should have been President a long time ago.

[jhu72]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

[Farfromgeneva]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

How come this entire thread doesn’t address the civil legal system or a whole host of other structural issues (one small but potentially impactful one would be allowing intrastate insurance without the multi state regulatory overlap)?

My grandfather was coroner at the VA historical in Sayre Pa (while living over the border in NY) back in the 30s and 40s. He ultimately died at the same hospital in the mid 2000s and by then it was a dump and disaster.

[cradleandshoot]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

You never had the privilege of having to use the old VA outpatient clinic on Westfall Rd. The place was a chithole and an embarrassment to veterans health care. They did finally get it right Dr Wizard. The desperate need for help for these veterans could finally not be ignored any longer. My primary care physician works out of the new facility on Caulkins Rd. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. The government did get it right but it did not come about easily. I enjoy using my facility, I enjoy chatting with all the veterans while we are waiting to see our doctor. All a person needs to do is look at the baseball caps these old soldiers wear on their head when they come in. The conversation follows.

[jhu72]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

You never had the privilege of having to use the old VA outpatient clinic on Westfall Rd. The place was a chithole and an embarrassment to veterans health care. They did finally get it right Dr Wizard. The desperate need for help for these veterans could finally not be ignored any longer. My primary care physician works out of the new facility on Caulkins Rd. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. The government did get it right but it did not come about easily. I enjoy using my facility, I enjoy chatting with all the veterans while we are waiting to see our doctor. All a person needs to do is look at the baseball caps these old soldiers wear on their head when they come in. The conversation follows.

... over the past 40 years I have (my company) been involved in supplying equipment and software for many dozens of new VA hospitals and clinics across the US. I am glad that they finally got around to your old VA facility. But the fact stands, what you have seen has been seen by many dozens of VA facilities in the US over the past 40 years. What you will see over the next 20 years is what has been seen by all the other VA facilities, an inability to sustain this bright shiny new facility due to insufficient operating budgets. I am sure you will avoid this because your facility and you are special.

[cradleandshoot]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

You never had the privilege of having to use the old VA outpatient clinic on Westfall Rd. The place was a chithole and an embarrassment to veterans health care. They did finally get it right Dr Wizard. The desperate need for help for these veterans could finally not be ignored any longer. My primary care physician works out of the new facility on Caulkins Rd. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. The government did get it right but it did not come about easily. I enjoy using my facility, I enjoy chatting with all the veterans while we are waiting to see our doctor. All a person needs to do is look at the baseball caps these old soldiers wear on their head when they come in. The conversation follows.

... over the past 40 years I have (my company) been involved in supplying equipment and software for many dozens of new VA hospitals and clinics across the US. I am glad that they finally got around to your old VA facility. But the fact stands, what you have seen has been seen by many dozens of VA facilities in the US over the past 40 years. What you will see over the next 20 years is what has been seen by all the other VA facilities, an inability to sustain this bright shiny new facility due to insufficient operating budgets. I am sure you will avoid this because your facility and you are special.

This new facility on Caulkins Rd became a reality because Chuck Schumer made it happen. I don't think Senator Schumer is going to let this facility, his pet project, become a victim of budget cuts. You accidently swerved into a valid observation Dr Wizard. This VA facility makes sure every veteran that comes in is treated special.

[Farfromgeneva]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

You never had the privilege of having to use the old VA outpatient clinic on Westfall Rd. The place was a chithole and an embarrassment to veterans health care. They did finally get it right Dr Wizard. The desperate need for help for these veterans could finally not be ignored any longer. My primary care physician works out of the new facility on Caulkins Rd. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. The government did get it right but it did not come about easily. I enjoy using my facility, I enjoy chatting with all the veterans while we are waiting to see our doctor. All a person needs to do is look at the baseball caps these old soldiers wear on their head when they come in. The conversation follows.

... over the past 40 years I have (my company) been involved in supplying equipment and software for many dozens of new VA hospitals and clinics across the US. I am glad that they finally got around to your old VA facility. But the fact stands, what you have seen has been seen by many dozens of VA facilities in the US over the past 40 years. What you will see over the next 20 years is what has been seen by all the other VA facilities, an inability to sustain this bright shiny new facility due to insufficient operating budgets. I am sure you will avoid this because your facility and you are special.

Somehow politicians and bureaucrats never contemplate or understand Opex…the only discussions are capex. Hence my major distrust on spending (second order events in general but when any generic kid can learn to model Argus to hear DCF models for CRE projects line item by line item I don’t understand how this happens every single time where nobody was prepared for the opex)

[jhu72]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

You never had the privilege of having to use the old VA outpatient clinic on Westfall Rd. The place was a chithole and an embarrassment to veterans health care. They did finally get it right Dr Wizard. The desperate need for help for these veterans could finally not be ignored any longer. My primary care physician works out of the new facility on Caulkins Rd. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. The government did get it right but it did not come about easily. I enjoy using my facility, I enjoy chatting with all the veterans while we are waiting to see our doctor. All a person needs to do is look at the baseball caps these old soldiers wear on their head when they come in. The conversation follows.

... over the past 40 years I have (my company) been involved in supplying equipment and software for many dozens of new VA hospitals and clinics across the US. I am glad that they finally got around to your old VA facility. But the fact stands, what you have seen has been seen by many dozens of VA facilities in the US over the past 40 years. What you will see over the next 20 years is what has been seen by all the other VA facilities, an inability to sustain this bright shiny new facility due to insufficient operating budgets. I am sure you will avoid this because your facility and you are special.

Somehow politicians and bureaucrats never contemplate or understand Opex…the only discussions are capex. Hence my major distrust on spending (second order events in general but when any generic kid can learn to model Argus to hear DCF models for CRE projects line item by line item I don’t understand how this happens every single time where nobody was prepared for the opex)

... it is the biggest problem the VA has. It is not just the politicians and bureaucrats, ultimately it is the citizens who don't want to pay what it really costs.

C&S: Chuck Schumer Won't save you. No single politician will. All VA facilities run short of the needed operating budget to maintain facility effectiveness. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[cradleandshoot]

"Free" market wizardry sure does a great job of curing cancer:



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VoTMOdI9adk/T ... +tumor.gif



It's time to stop with the "free" market idiotology and come up with a universal health care package for all.

The problem with that cartoon is that it represents what socialized medicine already looks like in the USA....its called the VA.

Oops, we already of what so many are pandering for, and its evident it does not work any better, may been worse than what we already have.

The VA isn’t properly funded. That’s it. That’s the problem. If it was, they’d get whatever is needed, full stop. No red tape. Just show your ID—-and get what you need. Instead? You get a system that’s designed to say “no” because they don’t have money. Bet they waste hundreds of millions to have processors paid to say “no, you can’t prove this happened on the battlefield.”

Wanna see real socialist care? UMichigan. UMaryland. UCLA—-all government medical personnel. Best care in the world. But as I’ve said 1,000 times ——fake conservatives think “that doesn’t count as socialism “. Sorry, it counts.

The VA is finally getting it right. I guess after the sacrifice of so many of our young people they are stepping up big-time. I went to the new VA facility on Caulkins Rd in Rochester last fall. I always thank every veteran I meet for their service. When I went into that facility with my 82nd airborne baseball cap the people that took care of me thanked me for my service. When I looked at all of the young and old veterans that day I was so grateful that our government finally started to pay back a debt to these men and women who sacrificed so much for their country. The government can get healthcare right. I don't have a link. I hope all of you look up the VA hospital on Caulkins Rd. I thought for a long time that taking care of our veterans was lip service. They finally got it right.

They didn't just finally get it right. I have been telling you for as long as these forums have existed, the VA does a really good job when funded properly. The problem today is that funding remains spotty. When a new facility is brought online it is properly funded, but as time goes by they become less effective because we don't continue funding the facility at the needed level. New facilities are always great.

You never had the privilege of having to use the old VA outpatient clinic on Westfall Rd. The place was a chithole and an embarrassment to veterans health care. They did finally get it right Dr Wizard. The desperate need for help for these veterans could finally not be ignored any longer. My primary care physician works out of the new facility on Caulkins Rd. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. The government did get it right but it did not come about easily. I enjoy using my facility, I enjoy chatting with all the veterans while we are waiting to see our doctor. All a person needs to do is look at the baseball caps these old soldiers wear on their head when they come in. The conversation follows.

... over the past 40 years I have (my company) been involved in supplying equipment and software for many dozens of new VA hospitals and clinics across the US. I am glad that they finally got around to your old VA facility. But the fact stands, what you have seen has been seen by many dozens of VA facilities in the US over the past 40 years. What you will see over the next 20 years is what has been seen by all the other VA facilities, an inability to sustain this bright shiny new facility due to insufficient operating budgets. I am sure you will avoid this because your facility and you are special.

Somehow politicians and bureaucrats never contemplate or understand Opex…the only discussions are capex. Hence my major distrust on spending (second order events in general but when any generic kid can learn to model Argus to hear DCF models for CRE projects line item by line item I don’t understand how this happens every single time where nobody was prepared for the opex)

... it is the biggest problem the VA has. It is not just the politicians and bureaucrats, ultimately it is the citizens who don't want to pay what it really costs.

C&S: Chuck Schumer Won't save you. No single politician will. All VA facilities run short of the needed operating budget to maintain facility effectiveness. Enjoy it while it lasts.

It will last as long as Chuck Schumer runs the Senate. I don't think he is going away anytime soon. You seem to have some sort of a problem with veterans getting the quality healthcare they deserve, does that bother you in some way?