The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:22 pm
I am starting a new topic as the subject is becoming more and more relevant and life threatening for this community.
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I heard several black commentators make this interesting point.Thank you for this thread. What really made me evolve and grow with all this was having gay co-workers who became good friends.
That's interesting...
Natty,
Interesting also that most of the hate is directed towards gay men. There is plenty of hate towards gay women, but it seems like there's much less backlash.
Just because Gay activists want to partner with other marginalized groups doesn't mean they don't have some friction with those groups. No different than religious Jews vs. secular Jews, these blacks vs. those blacks, these latinos vs. those latinos, etc.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:31 am ...Gay/Lesbian people are now marginalized by the plethora of continued identities that add on to the LGBTQ+ call sign...
As in an article I posted about the gay pride folks refusing police security for their event. At the end of the article the folks of the LGBTQIA2S community were deeply offended. No offense intended but who or what is the LGBTQIA2S community? If you folks want your perspective understood, please stop making your cause and your objective a joke. Keep it simple and people will understand what your saying. Most sympathetic Americans lose the message when put forth in such a confusing manner. How many of you out there can define for me in a reasonable length of time who or what the LGBTQIA2S community is? I'm not mocking them. Everytime I read an article about the LGBTQ community the upper case letters and numbers keep expanding.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:31 am Is it 'really' hate or is it more out of an endless dissatisfaction with inclusion? Gay/Lesbian people are now marginalized by the plethora of continued identities that add on to the LGBTQ+ call sign.
Crazy, when I speak to a gay, black, man, elementary school teacher....he is complaining abut the above. Happy? yes, that life as a gay person is quite acceptable now. According to him, all these subsets are making matters worse and we are turning in to a bunch Karen's.
LGBTQIA2S does not equal gays. There are L activists. G activists. B activists. T activists. LGBT activists. LGBTQ activists. etc. And each of these are just... activists. Personally, I'm not so connected to any activist community. But I am connected to Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, etc. In other words, LGBTQIA2S has no real meaning to me because, for me, it's politically-based activist stuff that does not interest me.
A huge +1. When I read about the LGBTQIA2S community in NYC opposed to police security for the Gay Pride event. With all of the evil out there focused on these people, they are willing to trust their security to people they prefer. I hope it works out for them. If the situation turns to chit, then don't call the police and let your people handle the situation. I'm not being derogatory in the use of " your people" When you live in America and don't consider the police as "your people" that is a country and a society heading in the wrong direction.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:31 am Is it 'really' hate or is it more out of an endless dissatisfaction with inclusion? Gay/Lesbian people are now marginalized by the plethora of continued identities that add on to the LGBTQ+ call sign.
Crazy, when I speak to a gay, black, man, elementary school teacher....he is complaining abut the above. Happy? yes, that life as a gay person is quite acceptable now. According to him, all these subsets are making matters worse and we are turning in to a bunch Karen's.
I don't know how widespread this feeling is among the LGBTQ+ community. I have no way to measure this myself. The one gay individual I have any regular contact with these days certainly gives no indication. There have certainly been stories appear in the press written by folks who are easily identifiable right wing writers that have been selling this story -- it sounds possible, but I am not ready to buy that it is widespread based on evidence to date.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:31 am Is it 'really' hate or is it more out of an endless dissatisfaction with inclusion? Gay/Lesbian people are now marginalized by the plethora of continued identities that add on to the LGBTQ+ call sign.
Crazy, when I speak to a gay, black, man, elementary school teacher....he is complaining abut the above. Happy? yes, that life as a gay person is quite acceptable now. According to him, all these subsets are making matters worse and we are turning in to a bunch Karen's.
+1Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:04 amLGBTQIA2S does not equal gays. There are L activists. G activists. B activists. T activists. LGBT activists. LGBTQ activists. etc. And each of these are just... activists. Personally, I'm not so connected to any activist community. But I am connected to Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, etc. In other words, LGBTQIA2S has no real meaning to me because, for me, it's politically-based activist stuff that does not interest me.
I understand what your saying. Why in the hell would an activist from a gay pride group turn down police protection in a situation that could turn violent in 5 seconds? They don't trust the police, they are at the end of a long line of Americans who are not enamored with law enforcement. That being said, they are in a unique position. If they believe they can provide their own security, I'm fine with that. If things go bad and something out of what their security people can handle happens.. don't blame law enforcement for whatever happens because they were not welcome at the event.Matnum PI wrote:Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:04 amLGBTQIA2S does not equal gays. There are L activists. G activists. B activists. T activists. LGBT activists. LGBTQ activists. etc. And each of these are just... activists. Personally, I'm not so connected to any activist community. But I am connected to Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, etc. In other words, LGBTQIA2S has no real meaning to me because, for me, it's politically-based activist stuff that does not interest me.
So I'm confused here. You folks are telling me that LGBTQIA2S actually has no real defined meaning? That is an admission from you folks that I can honestly believe. I suppose in good ole liberal terminology you would define it as open to interpretation. That would of course be strictly limited to YOUR interpretation.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:11 am+1Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:04 amLGBTQIA2S does not equal gays. There are L activists. G activists. B activists. T activists. LGBT activists. LGBTQ activists. etc. And each of these are just... activists. Personally, I'm not so connected to any activist community. But I am connected to Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, etc. In other words, LGBTQIA2S has no real meaning to me because, for me, it's politically-based activist stuff that does not interest me.
" It has no meaning to me because it is politically based activist stuff". +1jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:11 am+1Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:04 amLGBTQIA2S does not equal gays. There are L activists. G activists. B activists. T activists. LGBT activists. LGBTQ activists. etc. And each of these are just... activists. Personally, I'm not so connected to any activist community. But I am connected to Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, etc. In other words, LGBTQIA2S has no real meaning to me because, for me, it's politically-based activist stuff that does not interest me.
... the +1 indicates my position is exactly the same as Matt's, understanding and feeling. Period. You of course want to build some liberal conspiracycradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:20 amSo I'm confused here. You folks are telling me that LGBTQIA2S actually has no real defined meaning? That is an admission from you folks that I can honestly believe. I suppose in good ole liberal terminology you would define it as open to interpretation. That would of course be strictly limited to YOUR interpretation.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:11 am+1Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:04 amLGBTQIA2S does not equal gays. There are L activists. G activists. B activists. T activists. LGBT activists. LGBTQ activists. etc. And each of these are just... activists. Personally, I'm not so connected to any activist community. But I am connected to Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, etc. In other words, LGBTQIA2S has no real meaning to me because, for me, it's politically-based activist stuff that does not interest me.