2024

[old salt]

How the F is "Fix K-12 Education and implant immigrants work ethic" a "plan"? What are you, younger than my daughter?

How does the government do that, OS? At least PRETEND you have details.

The govt can't fix it because 1 political party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Teacher's Unions.
Covid revealed their misplaced priorities. That's why parents are rebelling at school board meetings & being arrested as terrorists.
The gubmint can't & won't fix K-12 public school education. Parents will & are.

Even IF you believe this idiocy, this isn't a "Republican plan". Your'e telling me the "plan" is: do nothing.

Covid showed us that guys like you don't give a sh(t about teachers, and while you were isolating safely and getting everything you needed delivered to your home like all the rich Americans did, you DEMANDED that they shut up, don't complain, and go teach kids that everyone knows carries all manner of viruses. F them, right? Teachers are bad, and ruining our country. So they should be exposed to Covid while you backseat drive, and tell them to shut up and get back to work. Oh, and get paid wages in most States that are lower than what fast food workers make.

YOU are why there is a teacher shortage in right wing States, OS. You think that Teachers should shut up and teach they way that right wingers want them to teach. And if they don't? Oh, they're commies, and trying to ruin kids. And they're allllllll telling you and your pals that this is a free market, and they have ZERO interest in doing what a bunch of idiots with ZERO training in educations tell them to do. So they are leaving in droves.

What's your plan when we can't get teachers anymore? Put five year olds in front of your beloved FoxNews for 8 hours a day?

As for your 1000% wrong assertion that "one party controls teacher's unions"? You're acting like a moron again: explain how States that have been run by your glorious and flawless Republican party has the WORST educational outcomes? No libs. No Dems. 100% owned and operated by the Republican party. Here in 2024? There are 23 States run ENTIRELY by the Republican party....where the are COMPLETELY in charge of educating their kids. And you're telling me that these States are broken. I agree. Seems like your magic party can't run our school, either, and this has NOTHING to do with your pre-recorded "libs ruin everything".

Try again, pal. This Is NOT a Republican solution. This is yet another "libs are bad" rant.

No state, red or blue, is monolithic. Most have a 60-40 split or less. Educators, in all states, skew liberal. They are not a representative cross section of the population. They choose to be part of the nanny state, literally. They want to be part of the village. That's a good motivation, but it becomes too powerful when aggregated in a collective like the Teachers Unions. They've gone beyond the basic mandate of unions. They want to control public education.

How many cases of the airborne covid virus spread did your ocean of hand sanitizer prevent ?

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/totals?ind=L1300

https://ecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewconten ... luc_theses

[Typical Lax Dad]

Pre-Covid:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... h-science/

Not possible. 23 States are run entirely by OS's magic Republicans who don't tolerate those horrible liberal policies.

And naturally, these 23 Republican-run States have FLAWLESS educational outcomes that beat all of those nasty, horrible, no-good socialist Countries, TLD.

All I know is that Darien, New Canaan, Wilton, Westport, Weston, Fairfield, Avon and Simsbury, for instance, all have pretty good public school systems. When I see charter schools open up in these communities as competition for public schools, I may start believe the public school system is a failed idea. In CO, Cherry Hills Village public schools are probably getting by also.......

[old salt]

Pre-Covid:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... h-science/

Not possible. 23 States are run entirely by OS's magic Republicans who don't tolerate those horrible liberal policies.

And naturally, these 23 Republican-run States have FLAWLESS educational outcomes that beat all of those nasty, horrible, no-good socialist Countries, TLD.

All I know is that Darien, New Canaan, Wilton, Westport, Weston, Fairfield, Avon and Simsbury, for instance, all have pretty good public school systems. When I see charter schools open up in these communities as competition for public schools, I may start believe the public school system is a failed idea. In CO, Cherry Hills Village public schools are probably getting by also.......

Of course they do. That's why you & your neighbors moved there & commute to work (physically or now remotely).
You pay for superior public schools via higher property taxes.

[a fan]

They've gone beyond the basic mandate of unions. They want to control public education.

Oh No!!!!! Teachers with years of training on how to educate people want to (checks notes) control public education!!!!???

Next thing you'll tell me that people who are trained in the military as to how to fly combat jets will want to (checks notes) control combat jets!!!

What's next in Commie America, OS? Do you think trained Md's and Nurses will want to control our hospitals and doctor's offices!

Man, these libs just ruing everything, and have no shame.

How many cases of the airborne covid virus spread did your ocean of hand sanitizer prevent ?

So now you want to throw stones at that? Cool, man.

Next time, I'll tell the fly boys at the National Guard who picked up full pallets of it at our distillery to deliver it to rural Colorado via helicopter, that a man who is isolating in his castle for all of Covid thinks that things that kill germs and viruses are stupid, and that doctors and medical personnel should stop wasting time washing their hands because "he sez so".

Know what I heard today? That they found evidence that Covid was started in a Chinese lab was on Hunter's laptop, as well as evidence that Covid isn't at all a virus, and it was a plot by American's teacher's unions, so that they didn't have to teach in person for a semester. Oh, and that the Deep State funded the teacher's Union so that they could send in more donations to defeat Trump in 2020.

Crazy, right?

[a fan]

Pre-Covid:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... h-science/

Not possible. 23 States are run entirely by OS's magic Republicans who don't tolerate those horrible liberal policies.

And naturally, these 23 Republican-run States have FLAWLESS educational outcomes that beat all of those nasty, horrible, no-good socialist Countries, TLD.

All I know is that Darien, New Canaan, Wilton, Westport, Weston, Fairfield, Avon and Simsbury, for instance, all have pretty good public school systems. When I see charter schools open up in these communities as competition for public schools, I may start believe the public school system is a failed idea. In CO, Cherry Hills Village public schools are probably getting by also.......

Of course they do. That's why you & your neighbors moved there & commute to work (physically or now remotely).
You pay for superior public schools via higher property taxes.

Told ya. OS understands perfectly well that the rich get good public schools by spending more on education, and having a stable home life, in good neighborhoods.

And he, like all Republicans, could give a sh(t that rural Americans and Americans in poor counties-----you know, the working class he claims to care about more than those horrible liberals in Connecticut-------and knows that investment will fix the problem.

Yet he and his party do NOTHING to fix this simple to fix problem. Let them eat cake. F rural America, is what OS says.

Fine by me. Stop taking my money, and let these Americans fend for themselves. If he doesn't care, neither do I.

[old salt]

Pre-Covid:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... h-science/

Not possible. 23 States are run entirely by OS's magic Republicans who don't tolerate those horrible liberal policies.

And naturally, these 23 Republican-run States have FLAWLESS educational outcomes that beat all of those nasty, horrible, no-good socialist Countries, TLD.

All I know is that Darien, New Canaan, Wilton, Westport, Weston, Fairfield, Avon and Simsbury, for instance, all have pretty good public school systems. When I see charter schools open up in these communities as competition for public schools, I may start believe the public school system is a failed idea. In CO, Cherry Hills Village public schools are probably getting by also.......

Of course they do. That's why you & your neighbors moved there & commute to work (physically or now remotely).
You pay for superior public schools via higher property taxes.

Told ya. OS understands perfectly well that the rich get good public schools by spending more on education, and having a stable home life, in good neighborhoods.

And he, like all Republicans, could give a sh(t that rural Americans and Americans in poor counties-----you know, the working class he claims to care about more than those horrible liberals in Connecticut-------and knows that investment will fix the problem.

Yet he and his party do NOTHING to fix this simple to fix problem. Let them eat cake. F rural America, is what OS says.

Fine by me. Stop taking my money, and let these Americans fend for themselves. If he doesn't care, neither do I.

You got the first part right, but went astray (as usual) in speculating what I want.

I got a great 1-12 education in a large rural no frills school district which prepared me to enter & complete my vo-tech college education.
That was before teachers Unions existed. The curriculum was managed by a dedicated superintendent & principals (all from rural backgrounds), working with a volunteer school board on which both my dad & future father-in-law served. I witnessed first hand the impact of teachers Unions throughout my wife's 35 year teaching career. When she was encouraged to join the union, she politely & discreetly declined, for her own reasons.
As I said above, parents (as voters) are pushing back. Eat that cake.

I'm sure the hand sanitizer was appreciated. How effective did it prove to be in preventing the spread of an airborne virus ?
About as effective as keeping schools closed an extra year to placate the Teachers Unions.

[a fan]

You got the first part right, but went astray (as usual) in speculating what I want.
I got a great 1-12 education in a large rural no frills school district which prepared me to enter & complete my vo-tech college education.
That was before teachers Unions existed. The curriculum was managed by a dedicated superintendent & principals (all from rural backgrounds), working with a volunteer school board on which both my dad & future father-in-law served. I witnessed first hand the impact of teachers Unions throughout my wife's 35 year teaching career. When she was encouraged to join the union, she politely & discreetly declined, for her own reasons.
As I said above, parents (as voters) are pushing back. Eat that cake.

I got the first part right? That American kids in rich school districts....and who are taught by Union teachers......are getting a top notch education?

So....doesn't that eliminate your silly Union blaming as the "cause" of sh*t education in America?


And FFS, your example of "how it was when I was a kid" was 50+ years ago, OS. Surely you understand that pedagogy has changed just a wee bit since then? Jet engines were brand new back then, FFS. Computers ran on punch cards.

Education in rich American school districts is top notch. It's why Ivies and our top State Universities are filled with kids from these schools.

Unions have NOTHING to do with the problems.

I'd be DELIGHTED to get rid of them. Wanna get rid of Unions? Do what I do at my business: pay out at the very top of salaries and bennies. Then there is NO NEED for a Union. Ever wonder why management at Fortune 500 companies are never Unionized? Prolly not.

It's how Coors kept the Unions away for YEARS, before they sold....treated their employees exceptionally well, which made them a better, and more profitable company. Wow, what a concept.

Wanna try that? F no. You just want to complain about Unions, and pay teachers fast food wages, and then act shocked, SHOCKED! when they Unionize.


What you and these parents are cheering on are doing is: substituting the structure put together by professionals, and replacing it with the opinions of uneducated right wing idiots who wouldn't know how teach a room full of kids to read if their life depended on it. All they're gonna do? Get rid of any mention of "the gays", and then call it a day. They're not (snicker) there to make education better, or to pay teachers better so they get better folks into teaching. They're there to do what FoxNation tells them to do.....get rid of "the gays", or any mention of the Civil War, and why it was fought.

My daughter's school? You would define as woke. Yet she's light years ahead of where your family and mine were, educationally, at her age. My brother and I both skipped multiple grades, and were bored out of our minds in HS, where a lack of Colorado School funding made it so AP History, AP English, and AP Math was the closest thing to solid, elevated teaching that was offered. We COASTED through those classes with minimal effort.

Meanwhile, my daughter is doing her math in two languages, all while being taught how to be a part of community, how to accept other cultures and people...and to learn from them. You know, just like every Conservative in America would have wanted back around WWIII, where accepting these other cultures was what won the war for us (taking in scientists that were from the "wrong" religion"....while Hitler played the race card.)

Sadly, the idea that American is melting pot that we all benefit from is now called "woke" by your xenophobic crew. And you want to inject this notion into all our public schools, all while banning books, and any mention of someone who is (horrors) gay.

Wanna hear how my daughter was taught about "the gays". They told her that all families are different, and then (gasp) some families have two days. She nodded, and moved the F on with her day, never to think about this information as anything different from learning that "the sky is blue"

That's it. That's what alllllll the consternation is about, and why your crew wants to make our K-12 even worse than it is now.



FFS.....you KNOW this is stupid, and are gaslighting. Everyone sees it here, and we have no clue why you persist.

[MDlaxfan76]

Whining gaslighting.

[MDlaxfan76]

You got the first part right, but went astray (as usual) in speculating what I want.
I got a great 1-12 education in a large rural no frills school district which prepared me to enter & complete my vo-tech college education.
That was before teachers Unions existed. The curriculum was managed by a dedicated superintendent & principals (all from rural backgrounds), working with a volunteer school board on which both my dad & future father-in-law served. I witnessed first hand the impact of teachers Unions throughout my wife's 35 year teaching career. When she was encouraged to join the union, she politely & discreetly declined, for her own reasons.
As I said above, parents (as voters) are pushing back. Eat that cake.

I got the first part right? That American kids in rich school districts....and who are taught by Union teachers......are getting a top notch education?

So....doesn't that eliminate your silly Union blaming as the "cause" of sh*t education in America?


And FFS, your example of "how it was when I was a kid" was 50+ years ago, OS. Surely you understand that pedagogy has changed just a wee bit since then? Jet engines were brand new back then, FFS. Computers ran on punch cards.

Education in rich American school districts is top notch. It's why Ivies and our top State Universities are filled with kids from these schools.

Unions have NOTHING to do with the problems.

I'd be DELIGHTED to get rid of them. Wanna get rid of Unions? Do what I do at my business: pay out at the very top of salaries and bennies. Then there is NO NEED for a Union. Ever wonder why management at Fortune 500 companies are never Unionized? Prolly not.

It's how Coors kept the Unions away for YEARS, before they sold....treated their employees exceptionally well, which made them a better, and more profitable company. Wow, what a concept.

Wanna try that? F no. You just want to complain about Unions, and pay teachers fast food wages, and then act shocked, SHOCKED! when they Unionize.


What you and these parents are cheering on are doing is: substituting the structure put together by professionals, and substituting the opinions of uneducated right wing idiots who wouldn't know how teach a room full of kids to read if their life depended on it.

My daughter's school? You would define as woke. Yet she's light years ahead of where your family and mine were, educationally, at her age. My brother and I both skipped multiple grades, and were bored out of our minds in HS, where a lack of Colorado School funding made it so AP History, AP English, and AP Math was the closest thing to solid, elevated teaching that was offered. We COASTED through those classes with minimal effort.

Meanwhile, my daughter is doing her math in two languages, all while being taught how to be a part of community, how to accept other cultures and people...and to learn from them. You know, just like every Conservative in America would have wanted back around WWIII, where accepting these other cultures was what won the war for us (taking in scientists that were from the "wrong" religion"....while Hitler played the race card.)

Sadly, the idea that American is melting pot that we all benefit from is now called "woke" by your xenophobic crew. And you want to inject this notion into all our public schools, all while banning books, and any mention of someone who is (horrors) gay.

Wanna hear how my daughter was taught about "the gays". They told her that all families are different, and then (gasp) some families have two days. She nodded, and moved the F on with her day, never to think about this information as anything different from learning that "the sky is blue"

That's it. That's what alllllll the consternation is about, and why your crew wants to make our K-12 even worse than it is now.



FFS.....you KNOW this is stupid, and are gaslighting. Everyone sees it here, and we have no clue why you persist.

Better analogy is that 'the sky is blue' is too simple...look closely and we see blue and gray and red and orange and black and....and isn't it ever changingly beautiful to see?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Pre-Covid:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... h-science/

Not possible. 23 States are run entirely by OS's magic Republicans who don't tolerate those horrible liberal policies.

And naturally, these 23 Republican-run States have FLAWLESS educational outcomes that beat all of those nasty, horrible, no-good socialist Countries, TLD.

All I know is that Darien, New Canaan, Wilton, Westport, Weston, Fairfield, Avon and Simsbury, for instance, all have pretty good public school systems. When I see charter schools open up in these communities as competition for public schools, I may start believe the public school system is a failed idea. In CO, Cherry Hills Village public schools are probably getting by also.......

Of course they do. That's why you & your neighbors moved there & commute to work (physically or now remotely).
You pay for superior public schools via higher property taxes.

Told ya. OS understands perfectly well that the rich get good public schools by spending more on education, and having a stable home life, in good neighborhoods.

And he, like all Republicans, could give a sh(t that rural Americans and Americans in poor counties-----you know, the working class he claims to care about more than those horrible liberals in Connecticut-------and knows that investment will fix the problem.

Yet he and his party do NOTHING to fix this simple to fix problem. Let them eat cake. F rural America, is what OS says.

Fine by me. Stop taking my money, and let these Americans fend for themselves. If he doesn't care, neither do I.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/bide ... ic-divide/

Guess where the “good” schools are?

Most notably, the stark economic rift that Brookings Metro documented after Donald Trump’s shocking 2016 victory has grown even wider. In 2016, we wrote that the 2,584 counties that Trump won generated just 36% of the country’s economic output, whereas the 472 counties Hillary Clinton carried equated to almost two-thirds of the nation’s aggregate economy.

I am tired of carrying these people in these red counties that don’t want to fend for themselves. I don’t mind paying taxes….you get what you don’t pay for.

[SCLaxAttack]

You got the first part right, but went astray (as usual) in speculating what I want.
I got a great 1-12 education in a large rural no frills school district which prepared me to enter & complete my vo-tech college education.
That was before teachers Unions existed. The curriculum was managed by a dedicated superintendent & principals (all from rural backgrounds), working with a volunteer school board on which both my dad & future father-in-law served. I witnessed first hand the impact of teachers Unions throughout my wife's 35 year teaching career. When she was encouraged to join the union, she politely & discreetly declined, for her own reasons.
As I said above, parents (as voters) are pushing back. Eat that cake.

I got the first part right? That American kids in rich school districts....and who are taught by Union teachers......are getting a top notch education?

So....doesn't that eliminate your silly Union blaming as the "cause" of sh*t education in America?


And FFS, your example of "how it was when I was a kid" was 50+ years ago, OS. Surely you understand that pedagogy has changed just a wee bit since then? Jet engines were brand new back then, FFS. Computers ran on punch cards.

Education in rich American school districts is top notch. It's why Ivies and our top State Universities are filled with kids from these schools.

Unions have NOTHING to do with the problems.

I'd be DELIGHTED to get rid of them. Wanna get rid of Unions? Do what I do at my business: pay out at the very top of salaries and bennies. Then there is NO NEED for a Union. Ever wonder why management at Fortune 500 companies are never Unionized? Prolly not.

It's how Coors kept the Unions away for YEARS, before they sold....treated their employees exceptionally well, which made them a better, and more profitable company. Wow, what a concept.

Wanna try that? F no. You just want to complain about Unions, and pay teachers fast food wages, and then act shocked, SHOCKED! when they Unionize.


What you and these parents are cheering on are doing is: substituting the structure put together by professionals, and replacing it with the opinions of uneducated right wing idiots who wouldn't know how teach a room full of kids to read if their life depended on it. All they're gonna do? Get rid of any mention of "the gays", and then call it a day. They're not (snicker) there to make education better, or to pay teachers better so they get better folks into teaching. They're there to do what FoxNation tells them to do.....get rid of "the gays", or any mention of the Civil War, and why it was fought.

My daughter's school? You would define as woke. Yet she's light years ahead of where your family and mine were, educationally, at her age. My brother and I both skipped multiple grades, and were bored out of our minds in HS, where a lack of Colorado School funding made it so AP History, AP English, and AP Math was the closest thing to solid, elevated teaching that was offered. We COASTED through those classes with minimal effort.

Meanwhile, my daughter is doing her math in two languages, all while being taught how to be a part of community, how to accept other cultures and people...and to learn from them. You know, just like every Conservative in America would have wanted back around WWIII, where accepting these other cultures was what won the war for us (taking in scientists that were from the "wrong" religion"....while Hitler played the race card.)

Sadly, the idea that American is melting pot that we all benefit from is now called "woke" by your xenophobic crew. And you want to inject this notion into all our public schools, all while banning books, and any mention of someone who is (horrors) gay.

Wanna hear how my daughter was taught about "the gays". They told her that all families are different, and then (gasp) some families have two days. She nodded, and moved the F on with her day, never to think about this information as anything different from learning that "the sky is blue"

That's it. That's what alllllll the consternation is about, and why your crew wants to make our K-12 even worse than it is now.



FFS.....you KNOW this is stupid, and are gaslighting. Everyone sees it here, and we have no clue why you persist.

You keep saying this with almost every one of his posts. How can you be so sure?

[old salt]

You got the first part right, but went astray (as usual) in speculating what I want.
I got a great 1-12 education in a large rural no frills school district which prepared me to enter & complete my vo-tech college education.
That was before teachers Unions existed. The curriculum was managed by a dedicated superintendent & principals (all from rural backgrounds), working with a volunteer school board on which both my dad & future father-in-law served. I witnessed first hand the impact of teachers Unions throughout my wife's 35 year teaching career. When she was encouraged to join the union, she politely & discreetly declined, for her own reasons.
As I said above, parents (as voters) are pushing back. Eat that cake.

I got the first part right? That American kids in rich school districts....and who are taught by Union teachers......are getting a top notch education?

So....doesn't that eliminate your silly Union blaming as the "cause" of sh*t education in America?


And FFS, your example of "how it was when I was a kid" was 50+ years ago, OS. Surely you understand that pedagogy has changed just a wee bit since then? Jet engines were brand new back then, FFS. Computers ran on punch cards.

Education in rich American school districts is top notch. It's why Ivies and our top State Universities are filled with kids from these schools.

Unions have NOTHING to do with the problems.

I'd be DELIGHTED to get rid of them. Wanna get rid of Unions? Do what I do at my business: pay out at the very top of salaries and bennies. Then there is NO NEED for a Union. Ever wonder why management at Fortune 500 companies are never Unionized? Prolly not.

It's how Coors kept the Unions away for YEARS, before they sold....treated their employees exceptionally well, which made them a better, and more profitable company. Wow, what a concept.

Wanna try that? F no. You just want to complain about Unions, and pay teachers fast food wages, and then act shocked, SHOCKED! when they Unionize.


What you and these parents are cheering on are doing is: substituting the structure put together by professionals, and replacing it with the opinions of uneducated right wing idiots who wouldn't know how teach a room full of kids to read if their life depended on it. All they're gonna do? Get rid of any mention of "the gays", and then call it a day. They're not (snicker) there to make education better, or to pay teachers better so they get better folks into teaching. They're there to do what FoxNation tells them to do.....get rid of "the gays", or any mention of the Civil War, and why it was fought.

My daughter's school? You would define as woke. Yet she's light years ahead of where your family and mine were, educationally, at her age. My brother and I both skipped multiple grades, and were bored out of our minds in HS, where a lack of Colorado School funding made it so AP History, AP English, and AP Math was the closest thing to solid, elevated teaching that was offered. We COASTED through those classes with minimal effort.

Meanwhile, my daughter is doing her math in two languages, all while being taught how to be a part of community, how to accept other cultures and people...and to learn from them. You know, just like every Conservative in America would have wanted back around WWIII, where accepting these other cultures was what won the war for us (taking in scientists that were from the "wrong" religion"....while Hitler played the race card.)

Sadly, the idea that American is melting pot that we all benefit from is now called "woke" by your xenophobic crew. And you want to inject this notion into all our public schools, all while banning books, and any mention of someone who is (horrors) gay.

Wanna hear how my daughter was taught about "the gays". They told her that all families are different, and then (gasp) some families have two days. She nodded, and moved the F on with her day, never to think about this information as anything different from learning that "the sky is blue"

That's it. That's what alllllll the consternation is about, and why your crew wants to make our K-12 even worse than it is now.



FFS.....you KNOW this is stupid, and are gaslighting. Everyone sees it here, and we have no clue why you persist.

You're not telling me anything new.

A major reason (in addition to access to lax games ) I kept seeking assignments which brought me back to SoMd was so my wife could retain her tenured teaching position, in schools she loved, & stay vested in Louie Goldstein's generous pre-buyout state retirement system, (which we bought into, for 6 figures, for her out of state experience). We lived in a rural school district, adjacent to a large naval base, that grew into an affluent exurb due to BRAC consolidation.

Our family grocery market back in MO remain's staunchly non-union, by choice of the employees, despite repeated attempts to organize by the Local.
The only union workers are my brother's all star team of retired union meat cutters who enjoy working with him part time a few days/wk.

I was bored too in HS too. I was disciplined for doing my trig homework in mandatory senior English class when we were diagramming the same sentences we'd been diagramming since 7th grade. But my math, chem & physics teachers were first rate & my year of mechanical drawing enabled me to ace the spatial relations portion of the Civil Service exam which my Congressman required for Academy applicants & 4 years later, helped me score high enough on the AQT/FAR exam to go Navy Air for service selection.

Get the woke stuff out of the classroom. Stick to the subject matter without the multi-cultural "enrichment". That will take care of itself. That's what has everyone riled up, ...in addition to drag queen story hour & boys in girls rest rooms & locker rooms. Leave the social engineering to the parents & families.
Your daughter should be learning Spanish, rather than French. I regret that French was the only foreign language offered in my HS.

[a fan]

You're not telling me anything new.

Oh, yes I did.

You just conceded that Unions aren't the problem with Schools, and that you get top notch educations in rich, Union heave districts in Connecticut. That's a start, and an end to your assertion that Unions have thing one to do with why K-12 schools suck for working class Americans.

We lived in a rural school district, adjacent to a large naval base......

Yep. Rural living subsidized by massive Federal dollars pumped into the area in the form of good salaries with free health care

At what point are you going to just sit down, and take a knee on these points I'm making? You LOVE big government and what it does for you economically.....and just don't want to admit it.

It's why Colorado Springs are filled with the biggest hypocrites in the Country.....a bunch of fake conservatives who swear "government is the problem', while intentionally ignoring that the ENTIRE reason the town exists at its size is that there are Five Freaking Federally-paid military bases in one freaking city.

Oh yeah, the people of Colorado Springs are real go-getters who don't need the Federal Government.

Get the woke stuff out of the classroom. Stick to the subject matter without the multi-cultural "enrichment". That will take care of itself.

Waaaay too late for that, pal.

What the F do you think the "School Dances" were for in your school? Or how about those Government Football teams, where you voted to blow millions of taxpayer dollars to watch kids run around on a government-owned football field, chasing a ball around. And how about those cheerleaders?

NONE of these thing were "stick to the subject matter". And you and your pals NEVER CONSIDERED THIS, until someone else had the gall to say "you know, we can teach kids about other cultural stuff other than it has to be a boy and a girl as "Prom King and Queen".

You didn't care about this stuff when it was YOUR CULTURE getting rammed down kid's throats at taxpayer's expense. Never complained. Never said "boy, we need to stick to the three R's." before scheduling another school dance that celebrated...AND REINFORCED straight culture on the taxpayer's dime.

But the minute the gay community says "hey, what about us", out comes your "stick to the three RRR's".

You're a hypocrite who wants HIS cultural values reinforced at Taxpayer expense. Everyone else can F off.

Gee, I can't figure out why liberals might push back at your little hypocritical game.

We've been over this before. Tf you want to take ALL CULTURE out of school, as you are saying here? Good luck with that. Again, this is all because you can't handle anyone mentioning gay people in a School setting. Get over it, and grow up.

Your daughter should be learning Spanish, rather than French. I regret that French was the only foreign language offered in my HS.

Her learning another language has NOTHING to do with the languages in and of themselves. Surprised you don't understand that.

[old salt]

Your daughter should be learning Spanish, rather than French. I regret that French was the only foreign language offered in my HS.

Her learning another language has NOTHING to do with the languages in and of themselves. Surprised you don't understand that.

If you're going to expend the time & energy -- I'm talking about the utility of learning a second language. My 3 years of French just complicated my efforts in trying to learn Spanish when it would have been useful to me & still would help in my ongoing efforts to welcome immigrants into our cultural melting pot.

You didn't care about this stuff when it was YOUR CULTURE getting rammed down kid's throats at taxpayer's expense.
But the minute the gay community says "hey, what about us", out comes your "stick to the three RRR's".

You're a hypocrite who wants HIS cultural values reinforced at Taxpayer expense. Everyone else can F off.
We've been over this before. Tf you want to take ALL CULTURE out of school, as you are saying here? Good luck with that. Again, this is all because you can't handle anyone mentioning gay people in a School setting. Get over it, and grow up.

I recall teachers & ministers being fired for trying to ram it down kids' throats.

[MDlaxfan76]

Your daughter should be learning Spanish, rather than French. I regret that French was the only foreign language offered in my HS.

Her learning another language has NOTHING to do with the languages in and of themselves. Surprised you don't understand that.

I'm not.

[MDlaxfan76]

Your daughter should be learning Spanish, rather than French. I regret that French was the only foreign language offered in my HS.

Her learning another language has NOTHING to do with the languages in and of themselves. Surprised you don't understand that.

If you're going to expend the time & energy -- I'm talking about the utility of learning a second language. My 3 years of French just complicated my efforts in trying to learn Spanish when it would have been useful to me & still would help in my ongoing efforts to welcome immigrants into our cultural melting pot.

You didn't care about this stuff when it was YOUR CULTURE getting rammed down kid's throats at taxpayer's expense.
But the minute the gay community says "hey, what about us", out comes your "stick to the three RRR's".

You're a hypocrite who wants HIS cultural values reinforced at Taxpayer expense. Everyone else can F off.
We've been over this before. Tf you want to take ALL CULTURE out of school, as you are saying here? Good luck with that. Again, this is all because you can't handle anyone mentioning gay people in a School setting. Get over it, and grow up.

I recall teachers & ministers being fired for trying to ram it down kids' throats.

Ram what down their throats?

Sounds gay. And illegal.

Are you saying you didn't have school dances, Prom King and Queen? Didn't have cheerleaders? You saying that whenever characters in books or whatever were in a relationship it was always heterosexual?

[old salt]

Your daughter should be learning Spanish, rather than French. I regret that French was the only foreign language offered in my HS.

Her learning another language has NOTHING to do with the languages in and of themselves. Surprised you don't understand that.

I'm not.

Learning Spanish would be more useful in playing hop scotch in the multi-cultural playgrounds she's likely to encounter.
Don't have to worry about high non-direct air fares & lack of high speed rail to Quebec. Just go to downtown Denver for enrichment.

[a fan]

I recall teachers & ministers being fired for trying to ram it down kids' throats.

For holding school dances? For "indoctrinating" generations of school kids that "being gay is evil", and that only boys and girls can be together?

For coaching sports teams, dividing them into boys and girls, and teaching them stuff that has NOTHING to do with reading, 'ritin', and "rithmatic?

Sure they did.



You know perfectly well you can't refute these obvious points, OS. We've been doing this "woke culture" thing since before you were born. But you and your buds didn't care because it was a woke cultural indoctrination that YOU supported.

Next time? Keep it out of schools. Then you'll have a leg to stand on when you complain about (gasp) learning about different cultures other than WASP culture at taxpayer expense.

Or, you could relax, realize that teaching about other cultures is no big deal at all, and get on with your life, and realize you're wasting everyone's time pretending that this is a big deal in a PUBLIC school.


Or do you think you can teach the Spanish language you're advocating without ever, even once, involving Spanish culture?

(hint: language IS culture)

[MDlaxfan76]

Your daughter should be learning Spanish, rather than French. I regret that French was the only foreign language offered in my HS.

Her learning another language has NOTHING to do with the languages in and of themselves. Surprised you don't understand that.

I'm not.

Learning Spanish would be more useful in playing hop scotch in the multi-cultural playgrounds she's likely to encounter.
Don't have to worry about high non-direct air fares & lack of high speed rail to Quebec

No argument about short term usefulness, (though I'm pretty sure if she's playing hop scotch kids are working it out without taking a different language).
But it's not why language education early matters.

[old salt]

I recall teachers & ministers being fired for trying to ram it down kids' throats.

For holding school dances? For "indoctrinating" generations of school kids that "being gay is evil", and that only boys and girls can be together?

For coaching sports teams, dividing them into boys and girls, and teaching them stuff that has NOTHING to do with reading, 'ritin', and "rithmatic?

Sure they did.

You know perfectly well you can't refute these obvious points, OS. We've been doing this "woke culture" thing since before you were born. But you and your buds didn't care because it was a woke cultural indoctrination that YOU supported.

Next time? Keep it out of schools. Then you'll have a leg to stand on when you complain about (gasp) learning about different cultures other than WASP culture at taxpayer expense.

Or, you could relax, realize that teaching about other cultures is no big deal at all, and get on with your life, and realize you're wasting everyone's time pretending that this is a big deal in a PUBLIC school.

Or do you think you can teach the Spanish language you're advocating without ever, even once, involving Spanish culture?

(hint: language IS culture)

You are wasting your time & outrage. I feel no need to refute centuries of western culture. Tolerance is not the same thing as Celebration.