Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

[Farfromgeneva]

I have no agenda at all. If I ever did that is a ship that sailed a very long time ago. I'm not stupid, nor am I ignorant. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said question everything with boldness even the existence of God. I'm always willing to question everything. I'm just not very diplomatic about doing so. It normally comes out as sarcasm even when I don't intend it to.

I horribly mischaracterized Jeffersons quote. His line referring to reason as opposed to the blindness of fear is reflective of the mans brilliance. All many people in America know of him today is that he was very rich and owned slaves.

Jefferson was not rich my any means. He was largely in debt most of his life. Any business brilliance was confined to keeping the banks from repossessing all of his property to settle debts..

https://www.nps.gov/jeff/learn/historyc ... graphy.htm

In 1815 he sold his library to the Federal Government and it subsequently became the basis for modern day Library of Congress.

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/jefflib.html

The fact that he could not turn a profit on a agricultural plantation with free labor should tell you something about his business acumen.

Fortunately for us, he had other talents which contributed greatly to the nation..

I watched a documentary about him awhile back. Monticello was a pretty elaborate home that he used his architectural skills to design and build. He may not have been mega wealthy but he was pretty dog gone well off for most of his life. You don't own a home like Monticello if your living hand to mouth.

Cash flow vs overall wealth vs how much debt creditors were willing to support - two completely different things

Yes one can be floated for decades if they have and play it right. Monticello is nice if isolated. Did a tour a few years back w kids when son was learning about Jefferson in school.

[PizzaSnake]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

[Typical Lax Dad]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

Was he the whistleblower that Old Soldier has championed?

[old salt]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

Was he the whistleblower that Old Soldier has championed?

Not unless he's an IRS Agent who investigated Hunter's income taxes.

[jhu72]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

... this can't be true. Some MAGAt lied about what bad guys Hunter and Joe were/are. Nope can't possibly be true, just more interference by the deep state.

[a fan]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

... this can't be true. Some MAGAt lied about what bad guys Hunter and Joe were/are. Nope can't possibly be true, just more interference by the deep state.

TeamTinFoil with the crickets on this news, par for the course.

[old salt]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

... this can't be true. Some MAGAt lied about what bad guys Hunter and Joe were/are. Nope can't possibly be true, just more interference by the deep state.

TeamTinFoil with the crickets on this news, par for the course.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1250973

Hunter Biden’s former business partner sent him an email in 2017 saying he did not disclose on his tax returns $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian natural gas company where he sat on the board, according to a copy of the email obtained by NBC News.

The message from Eric Schwerin, then president of Rosemont Seneca Partners, says Hunter Biden would need to “amend” his 2014 returns to reflect the “unreported” income, according to the copy of the email.

“In 2014 you joined the Burisma board and we still need to amend your 2014 returns to reflect the unreported Burisma income,” says the email dated Jan. 16, 2017.

The email goes on to note that Hunter Biden, who is now the subject of a federal tax probe, netted more than $1.2 million for the year. The earnings include the $400,000 from Burisma as well as income from Rosemont Seneca Advisors and a legal firm.

[a fan]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

... this can't be true. Some MAGAt lied about what bad guys Hunter and Joe were/are. Nope can't possibly be true, just more interference by the deep state.

TeamTinFoil with the crickets on this news, par for the course.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1250973

Hunter Biden’s former business partner sent him an email in 2017 saying he did not disclose on his tax returns $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian natural gas company where he sat on the board, according to a copy of the email obtained by NBC News.

That's your idea of a reply? Cool. You get your TinFoilHat connection between Hunter and Joe yet?

Wait, wait...how about ANOTHER investigation for you and your buds, OS. How's that sound? We can go after Hunter for generation after generation....hand it down from prosecutors to their sons, sound cool?

[old salt]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

... this can't be true. Some MAGAt lied about what bad guys Hunter and Joe were/are. Nope can't possibly be true, just more interference by the deep state.

TeamTinFoil with the crickets on this news, par for the course.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1250973

Hunter Biden’s former business partner sent him an email in 2017 saying he did not disclose on his tax returns $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian natural gas company where he sat on the board, according to a copy of the email obtained by NBC News.

That's your idea of a reply? Cool. You get your TinFoilHat connection between Hunter and Joe yet?

Wait, wait...how about ANOTHER investigation for you and your buds, OS. How's that sound? We can go after Hunter for generation after generation....hand it down from prosecutors to their sons, sound cool?

Did Hunter declare & pay taxes on his 2014 Burisma income, or not ? I've never claimed anything else.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

Was he the whistleblower that Old Soldier has championed?

Not unless he's an IRS Agent who investigated Hunter's income taxes.

Oh, the taxes he paid?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Hmm. Indictment from David Weiss, Special Counsel investigating Hunter Biden.

“An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

Alexander Smirnov falsely told FBI agents in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5m each in 2015 and 2016, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-burisma

... this can't be true. Some MAGAt lied about what bad guys Hunter and Joe were/are. Nope can't possibly be true, just more interference by the deep state.

TeamTinFoil with the crickets on this news, par for the course.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1250973

Hunter Biden’s former business partner sent him an email in 2017 saying he did not disclose on his tax returns $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian natural gas company where he sat on the board, according to a copy of the email obtained by NBC News.

That's your idea of a reply? Cool. You get your TinFoilHat connection between Hunter and Joe yet?

Wait, wait...how about ANOTHER investigation for you and your buds, OS. How's that sound? We can go after Hunter for generation after generation....hand it down from prosecutors to their sons, sound cool?

Did Hunter declare & pay taxes on his 2014 Burisma income, or not ? I've never claimed anything else.

What about Benghazi?

[NattyBohChamps04]

Apparently the dude falsified documents. Like, knowingly lying to the feds and falsified documents for this charade to get the Bidens in trouble.

OS from 2007 would have been all for executing this guy.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Apparently the dude falsified documents. Like, knowingly lying to the feds and falsified documents for this charade to get the Bidens in trouble.

OS from 2007 would have been all for executing this guy.

Here is the Post article on this. Comer the Gomer already deep stating this, even though, again, GOP special counsel is behind it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... i-burisma/

"Special counsel David Weiss — who has previously filed criminal charges against President Biden’s son Hunter — announced new charges Thursday against a former FBI informant who officials say lied about the Bidens’ business dealings.

The indictment returned by a grand jury in Los Angeles accuses Alexander Smirnov of making a false statement and creating a false and fictitious record. The charges amount to a stark rebuke of conservatives, particularly Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, who touted Smirnov’s claims as he and other Republican lawmakers tried to build a corruption case against the president and his family.

Smirnov, 43, is described in charging documents as a former confidential human source for the FBI who gave agents false information in 2020 about a prominent political figure and his son. The description of the two individuals matches that of Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and a person familiar with the matter said those are the individuals about whom Smirnov lied. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

Smirnov allegedly reported to an FBI agent in 2017 that he had a phone call with the owner of the Ukrainian firm Burisma, in which it was discussed that “Public Official 1’s son, was a member of Burisma’s Board.” The fact that Hunter Biden served on the company’s board was publicly known at the time.

In 2020, the indictment alleges, Smirnov brought new claims to the bureau, including that he knew of conversations from 2015 or 2016 in which Burisma executives said they hired the son “to protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” Those claims by Smirnov were false, the indictment alleges.

Comer and other congressional Republicans spent months arguing that the FBI informant’s claims were evidence that Hunter Biden — and by extension his father — engaged in corrupt business deals, and that the FBI did not pursue those claims.

Thursday’s indictment implicitly argues that some of the most sensational charges Republicans have sought to level against the president and his son were based on lies.

Smirnov, according to the indictment, “transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against Public Official 1, the presumptive nominee of one of the two major political parties for President, after expressing bias against Public Official 1 and his candidacy.”

Authorities allege that Smirnov, in talking to his FBI handler, repeatedly expressed dislike for Joe Biden, and at one point texted the agent that Biden was “going to jail.”

In a written statement, Comer stood by his role in the Smirnov affair, saying “the FBI’s actions in this matter are very concerning.” Comer also criticized the FBI for not being more forthcoming in what it knew about Smirnov’s claims, though it is rare for agents engaged in sensitive criminal and national security investigations to share informant accounts with elected officials."

[dislaxxic]

THE GAPS IN DAVID WEISS’ BELATED INDICTMENT OF ALEXANDER SMIRNOV

Weiss attempts to cover up discovery that would implicate him personally, Billy Barr, Rudy Colludy and others...

David Weiss has indicted the informant behind an FD-1023 that Bill Barr used to justify the ongoing investigation into Hunter and Joe Biden. Weiss charged Alexander Smirnov with one count of false statement and one count of obstruction.

The indictment alleges that Smirnov lied about the meetings he did have with Burisma, and lied about what Burisma officials told him.

The indictment ties Smirnov’s efforts to frame Joe Biden with Rudy Giuliani’s efforts, though without naming Rudy. For example, the indictment describes that both before and after this article, Smirnov promised his handler that Biden would soon be going to jail.

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[Seacoaster(1)]

THE GAPS IN DAVID WEISS’ BELATED INDICTMENT OF ALEXANDER SMIRNOV

Weiss attempts to cover up discovery that would implicate him personally, Billy Barr, Rudy Colludy and others...

David Weiss has indicted the informant behind an FD-1023 that Bill Barr used to justify the ongoing investigation into Hunter and Joe Biden. Weiss charged Alexander Smirnov with one count of false statement and one count of obstruction.

The indictment alleges that Smirnov lied about the meetings he did have with Burisma, and lied about what Burisma officials told him.

The indictment ties Smirnov’s efforts to frame Joe Biden with Rudy Giuliani’s efforts, though without naming Rudy. For example, the indictment describes that both before and after this article, Smirnov promised his handler that Biden would soon be going to jail.

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But you gotta admit, dis, at least Comer's investigations finally yielded an indictment.

Here's the question floating around today: how long has Comer known the guy was a liar and had manufactured "evidence" -- and how long did Comer continue to use it despite knowing it?

[NattyBohChamps04]

Here's the question floating around today: how long has Comer known the guy was a liar and had manufactured "evidence" -- and how long did Comer continue to use it despite knowing it?

Yep, who else knew and how far up did it go?

Odds are low this guy was a lone wolf acting 100% on his own.

[dislaxxic]

Faux News DipShirt sez DoJ Indictment of "Biden Bribery Source" is "Deep State" Intimidation

Does she even know who David Weiss is? What a forking numbnut Maria Bartiromo is...

Fox Business Network anchor Maria Bartiromo accused the Justice Department of “intimidation tactics” for indicting a confidential informant for lying to the FBI about President Joe Biden receiving millions of dollars in bribes from Ukrainian oligarchs.

Bartiromo, who has been a key booster of the GOP’s “Biden bribery scheme” allegations, also fumed that the arrested ex-informant was “incredibly trusted” yet the DOJ is now “taking this guy down,” suggesting the feds are trying to strike fear into Biden impeachment “whistleblowers.”

Special counsel David Weiss announced on Thursday that the Justice Department had indicted Alexander Smirnov with making a false statement and creating a false and fictitious record. The unsealed indictment revealed that Smirnov was the FBI informant who claimed the president had received a $5 million bribe from Burisma while his son Hunter served on the board of the Ukrainian gas company.

During a 2020 interview with the FBI, which was memorialized in an “FD-1023,” Smirnov asserted that Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky had told him in 2016 about the alleged bribe to Joe Biden, who was vice president at the time. However, the indictment says this conversation couldn’t have happened because Smirnov “met with officials from Burisma for the first time in 2017, after [Biden] left office in January 2017.”

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[Seacoaster(1)]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... nt-lowell/

"Hunter Biden’s lawyers argued in a court filing Tuesday that the indictment last week of an FBI informant for allegedly lying about the first family has tainted the federal charges against the president’s son.

The filing in Delaware federal court shows how Biden’s lawyers are moving quickly to incorporate the allegations against former confidential human source Alexander Smirnov into their defense of Hunter Biden for alleged gun and tax crimes.

While the charges against Smirnov are related to lies he allegedly told about Biden’s business dealings, not the gun or tax charges, Biden lawyer Abbe Lowell claimed prosecutors relied on Smirnov’s account, which he said ended up scuttling a proposed plea deal for Biden.

Prosecutors, Lowell claimed, followed Smirnov “down his rabbit hole of lies.” The filing marks the latest strange twist in a case full of them — a defense lawyer accusing a prosecutor of believing someone the prosecutor has charged with lying.

Smirnov was charged last week with lying to the FBI when he claimed to have information about corrupt dealings by a prominent political figure and his son — Joe and Hunter Biden. The Smirnov indictment undercuts a central part of congressional Republicans’ claims that President Biden was part of a crooked scheme with his son to get millions of dollars out of a Ukrainian firm called Burisma.

The charges were brought by special counsel David Weiss, the same prosecutor who separately charged Hunter Biden in a gun case in Delaware and a tax case in California.

Also on Tuesday, Weiss’s office filed court papers seeking to have Smirnov detained in custody while he awaits trial — citing the 2024 presidential election and Smirnov’s insistence that he has ties to Russian agents.

“During his custodial interview on February 14, Smirnov admitted that officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing a story about Businessperson 1,” the prosecution memo states. Businessperson 1, according to people familiar with the case who spoke on condition of anonymity, is Hunter Biden.

The memo goes on to say that Smirnov has repeatedly claimed close links with Russian intelligence officials, and even planned to meet with Russian intelligence shortly after his trip to the United States. And in conversations with the FBI in late 2023, the court filing says, he suggested that Russian officials “may use as ‘kompromat’ in the 2024 election” the contents of intercepted phone calls of Hunter Biden in a foreign hotel.

“Smirnov’s efforts to spread misinformation about a candidate of one of the two major parties in the United States continues,” the detention memo states. “What this shows is that the misinformation he is spreading is not confined to 2020. He is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections after meeting with Russian intelligence officials in November. In light of that fact there is a serious risk he will flee in order to avoid accountability for his actions.”

Prosecutors also argued that Smirnov is a flight risk because he has significant wealth, and has dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship.

In the separate Biden defense filing, Lowell said Smirnov’s allegations about the Bidens made prosecutors less willing to accept a plea deal last July.

“It now seems clear that the Smirnov allegations infected this case,” Lowell wrote.

However, people familiar with the Biden investigation, speaking on condition of anonymity to describe details they were not authorized to disclose, have long said that when Smirnov first made the Burisma-Biden allegations to the FBI in 2020, they were looked into and dropped later that year as unfounded.

In 2020, the Smirnov indictment alleges, the informant told FBI agents that he knew of conversations from 2015 or 2016 in which Burisma executives said they hired the Biden son “to protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” Those claims by Smirnov were false, the indictment alleges.

Nevertheless, his account was passed along to investigators in Delaware who were involved in the Hunter Biden investigation — a move which years later led to the charges against Smirnov.

Over the past year, an FBI document recounting Smirnov’s 2020 claims became a kind of cause célèbre among Republicans, who argued that the FBI had received and ignored incriminating evidence in their probe of Hunter Biden. FBI officials were repeatedly forced to answer questions about Smirnov’s claims from Republican lawmakers who said they were conducting their own investigation of alleged corruption by the Bidens. Law enforcement officials also faced accusations from conservatives that the FBI itself may be corrupt.

U.S. authorities said that when agents questioned Smirnov again in 2023, he repeated some past lies, changed other parts of his story and offered new falsehoods after claiming to have met with Russian officials.

Smirnov was arrested at a Las Vegas airport last week, when he flew into the United States from overseas, Justice Department officials said.

Last year, Weiss asked Attorney General Merrick Garland to appoint him as a special counsel, which formally gave him more independence in charging decisions. He subsequently charged Hunter Biden in Delaware with lying on gun purchase forms years ago. Weiss has also charged Hunter Biden in federal court in Los Angeles with multiple tax crimes.

The dual indictments of Hunter Biden, filed after the plea deal fell apart last year, mean that he could end up going on trial later this year — potentially twice — as his father runs for a second term as president."

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://apple.news/Ab6Sni0EtQCKl_EbJ4MGZ5A

[MDlaxfan76]

Faux News DipShirt sez DoJ Indictment of "Biden Bribery Source" is "Deep State" Intimidation

Does she even know who David Weiss is? What a forking numbnut Maria Bartiromo is...

Fox Business Network anchor Maria Bartiromo accused the Justice Department of “intimidation tactics” for indicting a confidential informant for lying to the FBI about President Joe Biden receiving millions of dollars in bribes from Ukrainian oligarchs.

Bartiromo, who has been a key booster of the GOP’s “Biden bribery scheme” allegations, also fumed that the arrested ex-informant was “incredibly trusted” yet the DOJ is now “taking this guy down,” suggesting the feds are trying to strike fear into Biden impeachment “whistleblowers.”

Special counsel David Weiss announced on Thursday that the Justice Department had indicted Alexander Smirnov with making a false statement and creating a false and fictitious record. The unsealed indictment revealed that Smirnov was the FBI informant who claimed the president had received a $5 million bribe from Burisma while his son Hunter served on the board of the Ukrainian gas company.

During a 2020 interview with the FBI, which was memorialized in an “FD-1023,” Smirnov asserted that Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky had told him in 2016 about the alleged bribe to Joe Biden, who was vice president at the time. However, the indictment says this conversation couldn’t have happened because Smirnov “met with officials from Burisma for the first time in 2017, after [Biden] left office in January 2017.”

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yes, she undoubtedly does know...which is much worse.