JUST the NY "Hush Money"/Election Interference Trial

[Typical Lax Dad]

So SC Durham does not get to release a report (like Mueller did) ?
Instead, the NYT gets a month to review & characterize his work & interviews with DoJ participants.
What could be more transparent ?

Just embarrassed for you now

Preemptive strike before House hearings. Stay tuned.

So incredibly sad. I believe I was the first to point out your lack of credibility. Folks thought I was being outrageous. All the jargon and nomenclature can’t cover it up.

[old salt]

So SC Durham does not get to release a report (like Mueller did) ?
Instead, the NYT gets a month to review & characterize his work & interviews with DoJ participants.
What could be more transparent ?

Just embarrassed for you now

Preemptive strike before House hearings. Stay tuned.

And as we all expected.....Durham's report won't get Old Salt (and others) to admit they were wrong.

They'll ignore it, and move on to the next tinfoil hat investigation.

Will Garland release Durham's report ? His DoJ is already sharing it with the NYT.
Anything to change the news of the day.
MSNBC is desperate for fodder so they don't have to talk about Hunter & what's in the Biden docs.

[Typical Lax Dad]

So SC Durham does not get to release a report (like Mueller did) ?
Instead, the NYT gets a month to review & characterize his work & interviews with DoJ participants.
What could be more transparent ?

Just embarrassed for you now

Preemptive strike before House hearings. Stay tuned.

And as we all expected.....Durham's report won't get Old Salt (and others) to admit they were wrong.

They'll ignore it, and move on to the next tinfoil hat investigation.

Will Garland release Durham's report ? His DoJ is already sharing it with the NYT.
Anything to change the news of the day.
MSNBC is desperate for fodder so they don't have to talk about Hunter & what's in the Biden docs.

I thought the information was classified? You want leaks?

[a fan]

MSNBC is desperate for fodder so they don't have to talk about Hunter & what's in the Biden docs.

NO ONE CARES.

Old Salt, even you can't pretend to be this stupid.

Hunter's laptop has been in the possession of TeamTrump for three years. And even they can't name one single crime on that stupid, pointless laptop.

As for Hunter? You and your fellow Republicans told us not only don't you care about nepotism, influence peddling, conflicts of interest, and just straight up financial corruption....you MOCKED anyone who dared bring up the conflicts of interest with TrumpFamily.

You didn't care.



You TOLD America to not care about legal corruption like Hunter, Old Salt. Or Pelosi family stock trades. So guess what? NO ONE CARES.

You "win". Take a bow.

[old salt]

MSNBC is desperate for fodder so they don't have to talk about Hunter & what's in the Biden docs.

NO ONE CARES.

Old Salt, even you can't pretend to be this stupid.

Hunter's laptop has been in the possession of TeamTrump for three years. And even they can't name one single crime on that stupid, pointless laptop.

As for Hunter? You and your fellow Republicans told us not only don't you care about nepotism, influence peddling, conflicts of interest, and just straight up financial corruption....you MOCKED anyone who dared bring up the conflicts of interest with TrumpFamily.

You didn't care.

You TOLD America to not care about legal corruption like Hunter, Old Salt. Or Pelosi family stock trades. So guess what? NO ONE CARES.

You "win". Take a bow.

So what new did you learn from that lengthy blockbuster NYT report.?
It was just an outlet for disgruntled DoJ lawyers to leak their office squabbles.

[a fan]

So what new did you learn from that lengthy blockbuster NYT report.?

Didn't read it. Don't need to. You don't investigate something, for a SIXTH time, and this time, ordered by a plainly compromised Trump
Administration, and take four+ years to do it with one low level indictment......and expect ANYTHING to come of it.

Want the summary? The FBI investigates liars. Like all investigators everywhere on the planet, they investigate more when you lie to them.

That's it. That's "what happened".

And there isn't a poster here who doesn't know that once Durham is done, you won't finally.....FINALLY....admit there's no Deep State, and that the idiots on TeamTrump lied about anything because that's what they do....and led our FBI, and the nation, on a pointless wild goose chase for over a year.

[old salt]

Didn't read it. Don't need to.

[Farfromgeneva]

MSNBC is desperate for fodder so they don't have to talk about Hunter & what's in the Biden docs.

NO ONE CARES.

Old Salt, even you can't pretend to be this stupid.

Hunter's laptop has been in the possession of TeamTrump for three years. And even they can't name one single crime on that stupid, pointless laptop.

As for Hunter? You and your fellow Republicans told us not only don't you care about nepotism, influence peddling, conflicts of interest, and just straight up financial corruption....you MOCKED anyone who dared bring up the conflicts of interest with TrumpFamily.

You didn't care.



You TOLD America to not care about legal corruption like Hunter, Old Salt. Or Pelosi family stock trades. So guess what? NO ONE CARES.

You "win". Take a bow.

And why would someone engage in these conversations consistently while “not being this stupid”?

[Kismet]

MSNBC is desperate for fodder so they don't have to talk about Hunter & what's in the Biden docs.

NO ONE CARES.

Old Salt, even you can't pretend to be this stupid.

Hunter's laptop has been in the possession of TeamTrump for three years. And even they can't name one single crime on that stupid, pointless laptop.

As for Hunter? You and your fellow Republicans told us not only don't you care about nepotism, influence peddling, conflicts of interest, and just straight up financial corruption....you MOCKED anyone who dared bring up the conflicts of interest with TrumpFamily.

You didn't care.

You TOLD America to not care about legal corruption like Hunter, Old Salt. Or Pelosi family stock trades. So guess what? NO ONE CARES.

You "win". Take a bow.

So what new did you learn from that lengthy blockbuster NYT report.?
It was just an outlet for disgruntled DoJ lawyers to leak their office squabbles.

Must admit, you never disappoint.

Durham has not released his report yet - he, apparently, is still working on it - collecting a Federal paycheck. Garland will release a version of it when Durham gets around to submitting it.

[dislaxxic]

BALL OF THREAD: TRUMP’S NARCISSISM MAKES HIM EASY TO TRIGGER

Discussions of Trump’s cultivation by Russia (and other authoritarian countries) always founder on discussions of his formal recruitment.

There is abundant evidence that Russia, like other countries, did at least attempt to recruit Trump. Craig Unger has written two good books on the subject.

But many attempts to describe why and whether that happened, particularly in the hands of pundits, are easily discredited. That’s true, in significant part, because people imagine recruitment is an either/or thing: that people come fully recruited spies one day and from that point forward they are puppets of their handlers. The reality, as I understand it, is a gradual process of creating the preconditions via which people can be persuaded to act in ways that benefit another country.

On top of being an all around annoyance, for example, Jonathan Chait’s consideration of whether Trump had long been recruited was sloppy and made the entire Russian investigation easier to discredit.

And the thing is, such efforts are unnecessary.

All you need to explain Trump’s actions (and all I’ll rely on for this series) is Trump’s narcissism. Trump is such an epic narcissist, and narcissists’ reactiveness and paranoia and pathological need to feed their own ego are so predictable, that the only explanation you need for how Trump could be manipulated is that narcissism. So long as you could reliably trigger Trump’s narcissism, you could fairly reliably trigger a predictable narcissistic response to a given trigger.

Trump’s habit of releasing highly classified documents is a great example. Trump almost blew the Vault 7 investigation by revealing details that made it clear FBI considered Josh Schulte as the prime suspect to Tucker Carlson the day of his first search; Trump did so to try to blame Obama for the compromise. Trump burned an Israeli counterterrorism program by giving it to Russia, which he did to show off. Trump burned the satellite imagery targeting Iran, which he did so to dickwag Iran. Trump attempted to release all the backup materials to the Russian investigation because some dopey advisor convinced him that it would help to disprove his critics. Trump shared details of DOD’s plans to attack Iran with Mark Meadows’ ghost writer because he thought it would help him discredit Mark Milley. A master spy might have asked Trump to release all this intelligence for him. Maybe one day we’ll learn the documents that went missing from Mar-a-Lago were specifically requested. But you don’t even need that master spy request (and if there were a master spy, he might not ask for documents in the form of a request): because all it takes to get Trump to release highly classified documents is to suggest that in some way doing so will harm his detractors.

The Trump Tower Moscow deal — or really, any deal — is another example. It is not important whether the Trump Tower Moscow deal pitched to Michael Cohen (or any of the several other Russian Trump Tower deals) to be real, or plausible. Russia could, with great certainty, dangle offers for free money and the biggest tower in Russia, and Trump was bound to act irresponsibly, as he did.

There certainly could be more: but there doesn’t have to be. All you need to manipulate Donald Trump is to trigger his narcissism.

..

[MDlaxfan76]

BALL OF THREAD: TRUMP’S NARCISSISM MAKES HIM EASY TO TRIGGER

Discussions of Trump’s cultivation by Russia (and other authoritarian countries) always founder on discussions of his formal recruitment.

There is abundant evidence that Russia, like other countries, did at least attempt to recruit Trump. Craig Unger has written two good books on the subject.

But many attempts to describe why and whether that happened, particularly in the hands of pundits, are easily discredited. That’s true, in significant part, because people imagine recruitment is an either/or thing: that people come fully recruited spies one day and from that point forward they are puppets of their handlers. The reality, as I understand it, is a gradual process of creating the preconditions via which people can be persuaded to act in ways that benefit another country.

On top of being an all around annoyance, for example, Jonathan Chait’s consideration of whether Trump had long been recruited was sloppy and made the entire Russian investigation easier to discredit.

And the thing is, such efforts are unnecessary.

All you need to explain Trump’s actions (and all I’ll rely on for this series) is Trump’s narcissism. Trump is such an epic narcissist, and narcissists’ reactiveness and paranoia and pathological need to feed their own ego are so predictable, that the only explanation you need for how Trump could be manipulated is that narcissism. So long as you could reliably trigger Trump’s narcissism, you could fairly reliably trigger a predictable narcissistic response to a given trigger.

Trump’s habit of releasing highly classified documents is a great example. Trump almost blew the Vault 7 investigation by revealing details that made it clear FBI considered Josh Schulte as the prime suspect to Tucker Carlson the day of his first search; Trump did so to try to blame Obama for the compromise. Trump burned an Israeli counterterrorism program by giving it to Russia, which he did to show off. Trump burned the satellite imagery targeting Iran, which he did so to dickwag Iran. Trump attempted to release all the backup materials to the Russian investigation because some dopey advisor convinced him that it would help to disprove his critics. Trump shared details of DOD’s plans to attack Iran with Mark Meadows’ ghost writer because he thought it would help him discredit Mark Milley. A master spy might have asked Trump to release all this intelligence for him. Maybe one day we’ll learn the documents that went missing from Mar-a-Lago were specifically requested. But you don’t even need that master spy request (and if there were a master spy, he might not ask for documents in the form of a request): because all it takes to get Trump to release highly classified documents is to suggest that in some way doing so will harm his detractors.

The Trump Tower Moscow deal — or really, any deal — is another example. It is not important whether the Trump Tower Moscow deal pitched to Michael Cohen (or any of the several other Russian Trump Tower deals) to be real, or plausible. Russia could, with great certainty, dangle offers for free money and the biggest tower in Russia, and Trump was bound to act irresponsibly, as he did.

There certainly could be more: but there doesn’t have to be. All you need to manipulate Donald Trump is to trigger his narcissism.

..

"useful idiot" would be the term of art.

[Kismet]

Vlad signed an order yesterday declaring that Russian Empire sale of Alaska to United States in 1897 is illegitimate and he wants it back!

[cradleandshoot]

Vlad signed an order yesterday declaring that Russian Empire sale of Alaska to United States in 1897 is illegitimate and he wants it back!

He should discuss it with Joe. I've heard his son is unemployed at this moment. Rumor has it he is a world class negotiator. There might even be a couple of bucks in it for him and his old man. Some extra money will help paying for all of his lawyers. Holy moly, now that is something Hunter and trump have in common. They are both paying a Kings ransom to keep their backsides out of jail.

[dislaxxic]

Repurposing one of the several "Russian Collusion" threads to devote to the current Alvin Bragg NY AG Trial of Donald J. Trump...

[Seacoaster(1)]

Repurposing one of the several "Russian Collusion" threads to devote to the current Alvin Bragg NY AG Trial of Donald J. Trump...

"This case is about a criminal conspiracy and a coverup. The defendant, Donald Trump, orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election. Then, he covered up that conspiracy in his business records by lying over and over and over again."

[MDlaxfan76]

Repurposing one of the several "Russian Collusion" threads to devote to the current Alvin Bragg NY AG Trial of Donald J. Trump...

"This case is about a criminal conspiracy and a coverup. The defendant, Donald Trump, orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election. Then, he covered up that conspiracy in his business records by lying over and over and over again."

Interesting watching the near real time reporting of opening statements on CNN.

Excellent analysis of relevant aspects.

[cradleandshoot]

These upcoming weeks are gonna be a real hoot. I wonder what the lead story will be on the 6:30 national news? Today it was clearly obvious trump passed gas while sitting at the table. I bet a healthy dose of those breakfast burritos and trump could clear the entire courtroom. Then the judge will have to slap a no flatulence restraining order on trump.

[OCanada]

Trump has been odiferous for quite awhile.

His latest statements are as dishonest as labeling the trial about “hush money”. It is not though that is the payment from which criminal action was taken. There is no law against paying hush money

[MDlaxfan76]

Pecker's testimony sure seems credible, over and over and over again establishing that all of these catch and kill acts, as well as wildly false negative stories about opponents and wildly exaggerated positive pieces about Trump were all focused on benefiting the Campaign.

Mutual benefit of selling papers for the stories done...no benefit to Pecker for those killed, purely Trump Campaign benefit.

And all known and planned between Trump, Cohen, and Pecker.

It will be interesting when the defense cross examines, but this sure seems tremendously persuasive of the key underlying scheme to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

[SCLaxAttack]

Just watched live Trump's comments after today's testimony ended. Today really riled him. If he has another few days in court like today we may find him in intensive care.