Summer 2020 Recruiting

[AreaLax]

NCAA DI Council extends recruiting dead period in all sports through Aug. 31
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... all-sports

[Drcthru]

NCAA DI Council extends recruiting dead period in all sports through Aug. 31
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... all-sports

Big whoop!

[smoova]

Big whoop!

^ This man here, ladies and gentlemen, is a real, genuine horse's arse.

[Surfs_Up]

Ya, it kind of is a big whoop. At least to all those 2021 and 2022 that wanted their shot.

Let’s hope for a vaccine soon

[kramerica.inc]

Ya, it kind of is a big whoop. At least to all those 2021 and 2022 that wanted their shot.

Let’s hope for a vaccine soon

Big whoop from an 18 year old's perspective, yes. Much less of a big whoop in the big picture.

Nothing is guaranteed. ACLS get torn, coaches leave, teams get defunded.

That said, there is a 6-step process for these kids:

1) Do a little research, make a few phone calls, talk to a trusted advisor/hs/club coach.
2) Pick a school you like and think you have a shot at playing for.
3) Go there.
4) Try out.
5) Play lacrosse if you're good enough.
6) If not, play club and still get a great education at a school you love. Or repeat steps 1-6 till you make a team...or graduate.

Extra Credit, Pro Tip: Stickwork still matters in college. And whatever college you pick, show up for tryouts in the best shape of your life.

[Drcthru]

Big whoop!

^ This man here, ladies and gentlemen, is a real, genuine horse's arse.

Covid-19 cases rising exponentially, federal government assistance being reduced, average age of those infected dropping, re-opening rescinded in multiple states and you're upset because recruiting has been pushed back a few weeks!
Wow, some world view!
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... highest-ri
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/25/record- ... tates.html

[laxfan22]

This is a lacrosse message board - obviously nothing here is "life or death", but these high schools have lost their entire season, then had the NCAA take away probably 30% of roster spots by giving ALL spring athletes an entire year, and now lost their recruiting season. So, yea, sorry, but it is a big deal for those of us who believe that there is a value on playing lacrosse in college. It's been one hit after another for those kids.

[pcowlax]

Big whoop!

^ This man here, ladies and gentlemen, is a real, genuine horse's arse.

Covid-19 cases rising exponentially, federal government assistance being reduced, average age of those infected dropping, re-opening rescinded in multiple states and you're upset because recruiting has been pushed back a few weeks!
Wow, some world view!
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... highest-ri
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/25/record- ... tates.html

Since this is a lacrosse message board then yes, it is perfectly reasonable to talk about the effects of COVID on lacrosse. He never said anything comparing the overall realm world impact of the changing recruiting season vs other COVID effects. All he did in fact was just post a link noting the change in the dead period without commentary. If you are going to go with uncalled for virtue-signalling sanctimony you should get it right. The dropping average age of those infected is an unmitigated good thing and is the reason why the number of deaths has continued to go down while the number of detected cases has risen.

[JBFortunato]

Big whoop!

^ This man here, ladies and gentlemen, is a real, genuine horse's arse.

Covid-19 cases rising exponentially, federal government assistance being reduced, average age of those infected dropping, re-opening rescinded in multiple states and you're upset because recruiting has been pushed back a few weeks!
Wow, some world view!
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... highest-ri
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/25/record- ... tates.html

Since this is a lacrosse message board then yes, it is perfectly reasonable to talk about the effects of COVID on lacrosse. He never said anything comparing the overall realm world impact of the changing recruiting season vs other COVID effects. All he did in fact was just post a link noting the change in the dead period without commentary. If you are going to go with uncalled for virtue-signalling sanctimony you should get it right. The dropping average age of those infected is an unmitigated good thing and is the reason why the number of deaths has continued to go down while the number of detected cases has risen.

Good news - more cases detected in younger, healthy and strong people building herd immunity, fewer deaths among infected people, hospitalizations up due to elective surgeries being resumed, a weakening disease with a much lower mortality rate than thought - are being collectively depicted as bad news in the media.

Meanwhile, we can't discuss the tragedy of kids losing a half year of school and two seasons of lacrosse (spring and club 2020) on a lacrosse forum? Nonsense.

Putting aside the recruiting issue, which is significant for many kids who have dreamed since they picked up a stick of having the honor of putting on a college lacrosse uniform, these kids have lost out on so much skill development, so much time with their friends playing the game they love. The moments between games in the summer sitting on a cooler fooling around with friends, winning a game in OT and dogpiling, working on fundamentals in practices, learning from coaches.

Granted, it isn't losing your life, or your job to the lockdown. But it's a tragedy nonetheless.

[Njlaxx11]

i know, for example, that NXT is sending the game films to registered college coaches, as well as the "recruiting book" for the tournament.

[FlyEaglesFly]

Pretty much every big tournament is going to have their games streamed so the coaches will be able to watch every single game. Not saying a video evaluation is as good as in person, but better then nothing

[FMUBart]

i know, for example, that NXT is sending the game films to registered college coaches, as well as the "recruiting book" for the tournament.

Beat me to the punch, NJlaxx! Coaches will be recruiting via film...while not perfect, at least they can identify players..and, it will be a money maker for whoever is doing the video taping!

[JBFortunato]

i know, for example, that NXT is sending the game films to registered college coaches, as well as the "recruiting book" for the tournament.

Beat me to the punch, NJlaxx! Coaches will be recruiting via film...while not perfect, at least they can identify players..and, it will be a money maker for whoever is doing the video taping!

You guys really think they will have tournaments this summer? I hope you're right. But I'm wondering.

[FlyEaglesFly]

Yes. There is a huge tournament July 29 in Tennessee with some of the best kids playing.

[HooDat]

Ya, it kind of is a big whoop. At least to all those 2021 and 2022 that wanted their shot.

Let’s hope for a vaccine soon

Big whoop from an 18 year old's perspective, yes. Much less of a big whoop in the big picture.

Nothing is guaranteed. ACLS get torn, coaches leave, teams get defunded.

That said, there is a 6-step process for these kids:

1) Do a little research, make a few phone calls, talk to a trusted advisor/hs/club coach.
2) Pick a school you like and think you have a shot at playing for.
3) Go there.
4) Try out.
5) Play lacrosse if you're good enough.
6) If not, play club and still get a great education at a school you love. Or repeat steps 1-6 till you make a team...or graduate.

Extra Credit, Pro Tip: Stickwork still matters in college. And whatever college you pick, show up for tryouts in the best shape of your life.

Yes!, Yes!, Yes!, Yes!, Yes!, Yes!, and Yes!!

Y-E-S !!!!!

kramerica's 6-step process should be everyone's plan for "getting recruited" in every year!

by the way..

YES !!!!

[AreaLax]

Xanders says he headed out to this event this coming week

https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/12 ... 92928?s=21

https://twitter.com/laxsportsnet/status ... 24864?s=21

[The Orfling]

Big whoop!

^ This man here, ladies and gentlemen, is a real, genuine horse's arse.

Covid-19 cases rising exponentially, federal government assistance being reduced, average age of those infected dropping, re-opening rescinded in multiple states and you're upset because recruiting has been pushed back a few weeks!
Wow, some world view!
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... highest-ri
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/25/record- ... tates.html

Since this is a lacrosse message board then yes, it is perfectly reasonable to talk about the effects of COVID on lacrosse. He never said anything comparing the overall realm world impact of the changing recruiting season vs other COVID effects. All he did in fact was just post a link noting the change in the dead period without commentary. If you are going to go with uncalled for virtue-signalling sanctimony you should get it right. The dropping average age of those infected is an unmitigated good thing and is the reason why the number of deaths has continued to go down while the number of detected cases has risen.

Good news - more cases detected in younger, healthy and strong people building herd immunity, fewer deaths among infected people, hospitalizations up due to elective surgeries being resumed, a weakening disease with a much lower mortality rate than thought - are being collectively depicted as bad news in the media.

Meanwhile, we can't discuss the tragedy of kids losing a half year of school and two seasons of lacrosse (spring and club 2020) on a lacrosse forum? Nonsense.

Putting aside the recruiting issue, which is significant for many kids who have dreamed since they picked up a stick of having the honor of putting on a college lacrosse uniform, these kids have lost out on so much skill development, so much time with their friends playing the game they love. The moments between games in the summer sitting on a cooler fooling around with friends, winning a game in OT and dogpiling, working on fundamentals in practices, learning from coaches.

Granted, it isn't losing your life, or your job to the lockdown. But it's a tragedy nonetheless.

JBFortunato, I agree with you about all the elements of playing a sport that current high schoolers are losing. As a high school coach in another sport, I find myself thinking "that kid trained for years to crush their senior season, they're captain of the team, and I think we may not play." And there's a real sense of grief. Part of the challenge of the current situation is recognizing that it's okay, even good, to mourn the loss of things like a long-planned wedding or a sports season, and it doesn't mean you as a person don't also care about the tens of thousands of deaths in the U.S. (and hundreds of thousands in the world) to date or the devastation to sectors of the economy and the millions of families dealing with job loss.

I wanted to also address the bolded quotation about COVID-19. Is it lacrosse-related? Only in the sense that COVID-19 relates to all parts of our daily life right now, including lacrosse and other sports. The surge of cases in young people is not good news at this point. To date, scientists estimate that perhaps 5% of the US population (15 million plus) has contracted COVID-19. It would take about 70% (210 million) to achieve herd immunity because this is a "novel" virus. So, putting aside the herd immunity idea, why are doctors and epidemiologists worried about the recent surge in younger people? A number of reasons: It means community spread is still rampant; it means that asymptomatic or low-symptom younger people can and will carry the disease to older and more vulnerable people; it's coming at a time when we STILL have shortages of things like hand sanitizer and really good PPE; and it's coming at a time when the issue of mask-wearing (a cheap and easy risk mitigator) has unfortunately become controversial. The hospitalization rates are not just pent up elective surgeries -- they are talking about ICU beds. For example, Governor Abbott of Texas, a champion of early re-opening, has now temporarily prohibited elective surgeries in counties with the highest COVID-19 infections. Lastly, we don't really know the long-term effects of COVID-19, from lung damage to suggestions, in some recent reports, that infection with COVID-19 can trigger diabetes in some patients with higher body mass index.

I know people have grown cynical and mistrustful of the media. Try to talk to a doctor you trust -- if you are lucky enough, as I am, to be able to benefit from the knowledge of epidemiologists, even better. If you are looking for a focused news source on medical issues, you might try "Stat" (founded by Red Sox owner John Henry). Please wear masks when you are in an indoor setting not your home or mingling with people outside your family group -- widespread mask use is extremely effective.

As time goes on, maybe we will find out that almost any outdoor activity can be done safely -- that would be great. Remove the locker room/weight room element of team sports and be cautious with travel (wearing masks) and maybe field sports could flourish again even before a vaccine. But we just don't know right now -- are these college football players, women's soccer players, MLB baseball players getting COVID-19 from on-field play or from, say, lifting weights indoors? Or going out to bars? So try to read, keep up with developments, have an open mind, not think of this as a political issue or media trustworthiness test.

[Drcthru]

+1

[JBFortunato]

Big whoop!

^ This man here, ladies and gentlemen, is a real, genuine horse's arse.

Covid-19 cases rising exponentially, federal government assistance being reduced, average age of those infected dropping, re-opening rescinded in multiple states and you're upset because recruiting has been pushed back a few weeks!
Wow, some world view!
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... highest-ri
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/25/record- ... tates.html

Since this is a lacrosse message board then yes, it is perfectly reasonable to talk about the effects of COVID on lacrosse. He never said anything comparing the overall realm world impact of the changing recruiting season vs other COVID effects. All he did in fact was just post a link noting the change in the dead period without commentary. If you are going to go with uncalled for virtue-signalling sanctimony you should get it right. The dropping average age of those infected is an unmitigated good thing and is the reason why the number of deaths has continued to go down while the number of detected cases has risen.

Good news - more cases detected in younger, healthy and strong people building herd immunity, fewer deaths among infected people, hospitalizations up due to elective surgeries being resumed, a weakening disease with a much lower mortality rate than thought - are being collectively depicted as bad news in the media.

Meanwhile, we can't discuss the tragedy of kids losing a half year of school and two seasons of lacrosse (spring and club 2020) on a lacrosse forum? Nonsense.

Putting aside the recruiting issue, which is significant for many kids who have dreamed since they picked up a stick of having the honor of putting on a college lacrosse uniform, these kids have lost out on so much skill development, so much time with their friends playing the game they love. The moments between games in the summer sitting on a cooler fooling around with friends, winning a game in OT and dogpiling, working on fundamentals in practices, learning from coaches.

Granted, it isn't losing your life, or your job to the lockdown. But it's a tragedy nonetheless.

JBFortunato, I agree with you about all the elements of playing a sport that current high schoolers are losing. As a high school coach in another sport, I find myself thinking "that kid trained for years to crush their senior season, they're captain of the team, and I think we may not play." And there's a real sense of grief. Part of the challenge of the current situation is recognizing that it's okay, even good, to mourn the loss of things like a long-planned wedding or a sports season, and it doesn't mean you as a person don't also care about the tens of thousands of deaths in the U.S. (and hundreds of thousands in the world) to date or the devastation to sectors of the economy and the millions of families dealing with job loss.

I wanted to also address the bolded quotation about COVID-19. Is it lacrosse-related? Only in the sense that COVID-19 relates to all parts of our daily life right now, including lacrosse and other sports. The surge of cases in young people is not good news at this point. To date, scientists estimate that perhaps 5% of the US population (15 million plus) has contracted COVID-19. It would take about 70% (210 million) to achieve herd immunity because this is a "novel" virus. So, putting aside the herd immunity idea, why are doctors and epidemiologists worried about the recent surge in younger people? A number of reasons: It means community spread is still rampant; it means that asymptomatic or low-symptom younger people can and will carry the disease to older and more vulnerable people; it's coming at a time when we STILL have shortages of things like hand sanitizer and really good PPE; and it's coming at a time when the issue of mask-wearing (a cheap and easy risk mitigator) has unfortunately become controversial. The hospitalization rates are not just pent up elective surgeries -- they are talking about ICU beds. For example, Governor Abbott of Texas, a champion of early re-opening, has now temporarily prohibited elective surgeries in counties with the highest COVID-19 infections. Lastly, we don't really know the long-term effects of COVID-19, from lung damage to suggestions, in some recent reports, that infection with COVID-19 can trigger diabetes in some patients with higher body mass index.

I know people have grown cynical and mistrustful of the media. Try to talk to a doctor you trust -- if you are lucky enough, as I am, to be able to benefit from the knowledge of epidemiologists, even better. If you are looking for a focused news source on medical issues, you might try "Stat" (founded by Red Sox owner John Henry). Please wear masks when you are in an indoor setting not your home or mingling with people outside your family group -- widespread mask use is extremely effective.

As time goes on, maybe we will find out that almost any outdoor activity can be done safely -- that would be great. Remove the locker room/weight room element of team sports and be cautious with travel (wearing masks) and maybe field sports could flourish again even before a vaccine. But we just don't know right now -- are these college football players, women's soccer players, MLB baseball players getting COVID-19 from on-field play or from, say, lifting weights indoors? Or going out to bars? So try to read, keep up with developments, have an open mind, not think of this as a political issue or media trustworthiness test.

This is really a tale of two cities. The first part of your post is reasonable. But then you lapse into exactly the kind of sanctimonious lecturing and baseless scare tactics that continue to hinder the progress in opening up and moving on that we desperately need.

College students are at lower risk from COVID than the flu, or alcohol, which sadly kills 1,800 college students per year. There appears to be no good reason why colleges shouldn't be open, and athletes participating in sports, in the fall.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/getting-r ... eath-rate/

I'm finished arguing this issue here.

[The Orfling]

Big whoop!

^ This man here, ladies and gentlemen, is a real, genuine horse's arse.

Covid-19 cases rising exponentially, federal government assistance being reduced, average age of those infected dropping, re-opening rescinded in multiple states and you're upset because recruiting has been pushed back a few weeks!
Wow, some world view!
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... highest-ri
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/25/record- ... tates.html

Since this is a lacrosse message board then yes, it is perfectly reasonable to talk about the effects of COVID on lacrosse. He never said anything comparing the overall realm world impact of the changing recruiting season vs other COVID effects. All he did in fact was just post a link noting the change in the dead period without commentary. If you are going to go with uncalled for virtue-signalling sanctimony you should get it right. The dropping average age of those infected is an unmitigated good thing and is the reason why the number of deaths has continued to go down while the number of detected cases has risen.

Good news - more cases detected in younger, healthy and strong people building herd immunity, fewer deaths among infected people, hospitalizations up due to elective surgeries being resumed, a weakening disease with a much lower mortality rate than thought - are being collectively depicted as bad news in the media.

Meanwhile, we can't discuss the tragedy of kids losing a half year of school and two seasons of lacrosse (spring and club 2020) on a lacrosse forum? Nonsense.

Putting aside the recruiting issue, which is significant for many kids who have dreamed since they picked up a stick of having the honor of putting on a college lacrosse uniform, these kids have lost out on so much skill development, so much time with their friends playing the game they love. The moments between games in the summer sitting on a cooler fooling around with friends, winning a game in OT and dogpiling, working on fundamentals in practices, learning from coaches.

Granted, it isn't losing your life, or your job to the lockdown. But it's a tragedy nonetheless.

JBFortunato, I agree with you about all the elements of playing a sport that current high schoolers are losing. As a high school coach in another sport, I find myself thinking "that kid trained for years to crush their senior season, they're captain of the team, and I think we may not play." And there's a real sense of grief. Part of the challenge of the current situation is recognizing that it's okay, even good, to mourn the loss of things like a long-planned wedding or a sports season, and it doesn't mean you as a person don't also care about the tens of thousands of deaths in the U.S. (and hundreds of thousands in the world) to date or the devastation to sectors of the economy and the millions of families dealing with job loss.

I wanted to also address the bolded quotation about COVID-19. Is it lacrosse-related? Only in the sense that COVID-19 relates to all parts of our daily life right now, including lacrosse and other sports. The surge of cases in young people is not good news at this point. To date, scientists estimate that perhaps 5% of the US population (15 million plus) has contracted COVID-19. It would take about 70% (210 million) to achieve herd immunity because this is a "novel" virus. So, putting aside the herd immunity idea, why are doctors and epidemiologists worried about the recent surge in younger people? A number of reasons: It means community spread is still rampant; it means that asymptomatic or low-symptom younger people can and will carry the disease to older and more vulnerable people; it's coming at a time when we STILL have shortages of things like hand sanitizer and really good PPE; and it's coming at a time when the issue of mask-wearing (a cheap and easy risk mitigator) has unfortunately become controversial. The hospitalization rates are not just pent up elective surgeries -- they are talking about ICU beds. For example, Governor Abbott of Texas, a champion of early re-opening, has now temporarily prohibited elective surgeries in counties with the highest COVID-19 infections. Lastly, we don't really know the long-term effects of COVID-19, from lung damage to suggestions, in some recent reports, that infection with COVID-19 can trigger diabetes in some patients with higher body mass index.

I know people have grown cynical and mistrustful of the media. Try to talk to a doctor you trust -- if you are lucky enough, as I am, to be able to benefit from the knowledge of epidemiologists, even better. If you are looking for a focused news source on medical issues, you might try "Stat" (founded by Red Sox owner John Henry). Please wear masks when you are in an indoor setting not your home or mingling with people outside your family group -- widespread mask use is extremely effective.

As time goes on, maybe we will find out that almost any outdoor activity can be done safely -- that would be great. Remove the locker room/weight room element of team sports and be cautious with travel (wearing masks) and maybe field sports could flourish again even before a vaccine. But we just don't know right now -- are these college football players, women's soccer players, MLB baseball players getting COVID-19 from on-field play or from, say, lifting weights indoors? Or going out to bars? So try to read, keep up with developments, have an open mind, not think of this as a political issue or media trustworthiness test.

This is really a tale of two cities. The first part of your post is reasonable. But then you lapse into exactly the kind of sanctimonious lecturing and baseless scare tactics that continue to hinder the progress in opening up and moving on that we desperately need.

College students are at lower risk from COVID than the flu, or alcohol, which sadly kills 1,800 college students per year. There appears to be no good reason why colleges shouldn't be open, and athletes participating in sports, in the fall.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/getting-r ... eath-rate/

I'm finished arguing this issue here.

I appreciate that you read the post, even if you disagree. Peace, out.