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COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:43 pm
by Delco Transplant
I'm not trying to feed the hysteria, but realistically looking ahead at the current and potential impact on women's lacrosse based on the actions taken by different universities
  • Princeton University announced a mandatory, temporary move for all lectures, seminars, and precepts to virtual instruction starting on Monday, March 23. Princeton is also encouraging students to consider staying home after Spring Break (which begins March 14th) and meet their academic requirements remotely. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/03/ ... ure-health

    Stanford has implemented attendance limitation at all sporting events (https://gostanford.com/) and all in-person classes have been moved to an online format for the last two weeks of the winter quarter March 9-March 23 (https://healthalerts.stanford.edu/)

    Columbia has suspended classes Monday 3/9/20 and Tuesday 3/10/20. This suspension of activities will allow the University to prepare to shift to remote classes for the remainder of the week. Columbia's spring break is Monday, March 16 - Friday, March 20. https://preparedness.columbia.edu/news/ ... s-activity

    Brown University - Effective Monday, March 9, all in-person Brown events with 100 attendees or more, in venues both on and away from campus, must be postponed, cancelled or offered virtually. Academic courses are excluded from this restriction. https://covid.brown.edu/

    Boston University officials have asked faculty to prepare to teach classes remotely if an emergency campus shutdown occurs. (https://www.bu.edu/articles/2020/bu-rem ... s-closure/)
For those colleges moving to mandatory remote instruction, what do people think will happen to college athletics at those schools, including women's lacrosse? It's hard to imagine they will require remote/virtual instruction but allow athletes to practice/compete.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:53 pm
by Lax247
Delco Transplant wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:43 pm I'm not trying to feed the hysteria, but realistically looking ahead at the current and potential impact on women's lacrosse based on the actions taken by different universities
  • Princeton University announced a mandatory, temporary move for all lectures, seminars, and precepts to virtual instruction starting on Monday, March 23. Princeton is also encouraging students to consider staying home after Spring Break (which begins March 14th) and meet their academic requirements remotely. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/03/ ... ure-health

    Stanford has implemented attendance limitation at all sporting events (https://gostanford.com/) and all in-person classes have been moved to an online format for the last two weeks of the winter quarter March 9-March 23 (https://healthalerts.stanford.edu/)

    Columbia has suspended classes Monday 3/9/20 and Tuesday 3/10/20. This suspension of activities will allow the University to prepare to shift to remote classes for the remainder of the week. Columbia's spring break is Monday, March 16 - Friday, March 20. https://preparedness.columbia.edu/news/ ... s-activity

    Brown University - Effective Monday, March 9, all in-person Brown events with 100 attendees or more, in venues both on and away from campus, must be postponed, cancelled or offered virtually. Academic courses are excluded from this restriction. https://covid.brown.edu/

    Boston University officials have asked faculty to prepare to teach classes remotely if an emergency campus shutdown occurs. (https://www.bu.edu/articles/2020/bu-rem ... s-closure/)
For those colleges moving to mandatory remote instruction, what do people think will happen to college athletics at those schools, including women's lacrosse? It's hard to imagine they will require remote/virtual instruction but allow athletes to practice/compete.

Very worried
And it will affect all sports at colleges too not just lax obv.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:10 pm
by Bart
Delco Transplant wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:43 pm I'm not trying to feed the hysteria, but realistically looking ahead at the current and potential impact on women's lacrosse based on the actions taken by different universities
  • Princeton University announced a mandatory, temporary move for all lectures, seminars, and precepts to virtual instruction starting on Monday, March 23. Princeton is also encouraging students to consider staying home after Spring Break (which begins March 14th) and meet their academic requirements remotely. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/03/ ... ure-health

    Stanford has implemented attendance limitation at all sporting events (https://gostanford.com/) and all in-person classes have been moved to an online format for the last two weeks of the winter quarter March 9-March 23 (https://healthalerts.stanford.edu/)

    Columbia has suspended classes Monday 3/9/20 and Tuesday 3/10/20. This suspension of activities will allow the University to prepare to shift to remote classes for the remainder of the week. Columbia's spring break is Monday, March 16 - Friday, March 20. https://preparedness.columbia.edu/news/ ... s-activity

    Brown University - Effective Monday, March 9, all in-person Brown events with 100 attendees or more, in venues both on and away from campus, must be postponed, cancelled or offered virtually. Academic courses are excluded from this restriction. https://covid.brown.edu/

    Boston University officials have asked faculty to prepare to teach classes remotely if an emergency campus shutdown occurs. (https://www.bu.edu/articles/2020/bu-rem ... s-closure/)
For those colleges moving to mandatory remote instruction, what do people think will happen to college athletics at those schools, including women's lacrosse? It's hard to imagine they will require remote/virtual instruction but allow athletes to practice/compete.
Can not imagine remote/virtual instruction but athletic practice/competition. These conversations are occurring across campuses all over the country. As I type this an update about this very topic has come across my desk.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:44 pm
by Matnum PI

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:06 pm
by NuttyRipper12
Delco Transplant wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:43 pm I'm not trying to feed the hysteria, but realistically looking ahead at the current and potential impact on women's lacrosse based on the actions taken by different universities
  • Princeton University announced a mandatory, temporary move for all lectures, seminars, and precepts to virtual instruction starting on Monday, March 23. Princeton is also encouraging students to consider staying home after Spring Break (which begins March 14th) and meet their academic requirements remotely. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/03/ ... ure-health

    Stanford has implemented attendance limitation at all sporting events (https://gostanford.com/) and all in-person classes have been moved to an online format for the last two weeks of the winter quarter March 9-March 23 (https://healthalerts.stanford.edu/)

    Columbia has suspended classes Monday 3/9/20 and Tuesday 3/10/20. This suspension of activities will allow the University to prepare to shift to remote classes for the remainder of the week. Columbia's spring break is Monday, March 16 - Friday, March 20. https://preparedness.columbia.edu/news/ ... s-activity

    Brown University - Effective Monday, March 9, all in-person Brown events with 100 attendees or more, in venues both on and away from campus, must be postponed, cancelled or offered virtually. Academic courses are excluded from this restriction. https://covid.brown.edu/

    Boston University officials have asked faculty to prepare to teach classes remotely if an emergency campus shutdown occurs. (https://www.bu.edu/articles/2020/bu-rem ... s-closure/)
For those colleges moving to mandatory remote instruction, what do people think will happen to college athletics at those schools, including women's lacrosse? It's hard to imagine they will require remote/virtual instruction but allow athletes to practice/compete.
March Madness will happen, unless something very drastic occurs with viral spread between now and then... Schools want to make their money.... if they can.
Hoping for the best but anticipating the worst with wlax in the next phase of this unknown place we're in. Traveling this week to see watch our team play, playing it by ear after that. Trying to keep positive for next month and beyond. Senior Day, Graduation, NCAA's all ahead, so definitely worried about all the fun stuff down the pipe.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:11 pm
by Dr. Tact
NuttyRipper12 wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:06 pm
March Madness will happen, unless something very drastic occurs with viral spread between now and then... Schools want to make their money.... if they can.
Hoping for the best but anticipating the worst with wlax in the next phase of this unknown place we're in. Traveling this week to see watch our team play, playing it by ear after that. Trying to keep positive for next month and beyond. Senior Day, Graduation, NCAA's all ahead, so definitely worried about all the fun stuff down the pipe.
I have the same concerns... :oops:

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:22 pm
by DMac
For those who don't wander over to the men's side, just thought I'd post this over here. Sounds very informative to me.
Re: School Closings
Post by pcowlax » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:36 pm

I really try to stick to lax on here but felt compelled to jump in here based on some of the above posts. To get it out of the way I am not an ID doc but I am a physician along with a PhD in biostatistics and epidemiology so I have some familiarity with both the bug and its propagation. The posts dismissing this as some media creation or PC hysteria (and god knows I hate PC hysteria, let's just say Bernie/Biden are not my bag) are incredibly ignorant. The severity of this virus was evident very quickly based on the Chinese response to it. Totalitarian dictatorship that they are, their actions were most certainly not driven by the media. Their rapid quarantining (after the initial coverup) of tens of millions, which led to a massive economic hit on their own country, showed definitively for those with the eyes to see that this was something new under the sun. They did nothing like this for SARS, bird flu, H1N1, etc. Those who try to dismiss this with comparisons to Ebola are so ignorant as to barely warrant a response. Ebola is, in the vast majority of cases, transmitted via bodily fluid. Corona is a highly contagious respiratory virus. Saying that Ebola was hyped and didn't spread so therefore this is overhyped is to say that cats have fur because peanut butter is sticky. Similarly those who dismiss this because it has "only" a 2% mortality or because of how many few patients it has killed relative to influenza are insane. First, WHO is currently saying 3.4%. I think that is wrong and I think it is even less than 2%, lets say 1.5%. The "flu" has a mortality most years of between 0.05 and 0.1%. This is about 20-40x more lethal. In the elderly (who, as someone said above, still count) it seems to be approaching 10-15%. A high R0 respiratory virus with mortality of 10% in the overall population would be the end of civilization, at least for the short term. This is not that but even 2% is a black swan virus. Even if it was only 0.1%, the same as the flu (which it is not)....this outbreak would be as though there had never been the flu before. What if the flu, which kills hundreds of thousands around the world, just appeared for the first time ever? It would be dismissed because, initially, it had "only" killed a few thousand. This is extremely serious. That said, it obviously is not Captain Trips. The vast majority of people who catch it will be fine and most will barely even be very ill. The disruptions on society however are teetering on the edge of massive. If, in two weeks, it is still spreading in the US (and it is much wider spread than appreciated due to the pathetic lack of test kits), I think everything may be cancelled, lax, NBA, movies, schools, Broadway, etc. Look at Italy, Japan and South Korea. Massive, draconian quarantine and closure of public events can work but plays havoc on a society and its economy. I sold a few weeks ago. Hopefully it will just blow over when the weather warms. But watch games this spring while you can. This may be the one thing that can put Hopkins out of its misery.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:17 pm
by Badlands
Stanford is still practicing despite the virtual classes.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:46 pm
by Bart
Badlands wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:17 pm Stanford is still practicing despite the virtual classes.
That is interesting and good to hear at this point. I do not know if that will happen where I work.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:55 pm
by laxorangebookworm
With all due respect, most colleges are doing this sort of thing because it's CYA. And yes, it is hysteria right now, in my opinion. Any attempts to contain it at this point are moot. It's already out there and there's not much you can do about it. The way people are reacting to this is if we had a second coming of the Black Death.

Here's something to consider. In 2019-20, the regular flu killed at least 12,000 and possibly as many as 30,000. The reaction to that? Eh, get a flu vaccine and...nothing else. 22 people have died from the coronavirus in the US so far and we're ready to end civilization as we know it and at the very least, tank the economy. If you're an elderly person or someone who's autoimmune deficient or even just not very healthy, then yes, it's a problem. But for the vast majority of people, it's not going to do much. The main reason why it's a big problem in China is because the government tried to ignore it (and to be honest, their attitude is probably "eh, what's several thousand dead in a population of billions?") and the people there are not particularly healthy. Their health care also sucks. And I say this as a person who's in contact with a ton of people at work. We'll most likely have a vaccine ready in a year or so. Just live your lives like you would normally. That's probably the best thing you can do.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:32 pm
by laxorangebookworm
BTW, it's already starting to impact women's lacrosse: Boston U./Jacksonville game is postponed today.

https://goterriers.com/news/2020/3/7/mo ... poned.aspx
https://judolphins.com/news/2020/3/7/wo ... poned.aspx

They both say essentially the same thing. I provided both for perspective.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:06 am
by Badlands
Amherst suspends spring sports including lacrosse season.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... d-19/56132

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:13 pm
by Dr. Tact
Ivy League cancels M/W BB tournament

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:41 pm
by 8meterPA
unfortunate...curious wording on Amherst press release - calling it a "pandemic"

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:43 pm
by 8meterPA
unfortunate...curious wording on Amherst press release - calling it a "pandemic"

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:24 pm
by Badlands
8meterPA wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:43 pm unfortunate...curious wording on Amherst press release - calling it a "pandemic"
I didn’t see an Amherst release. What I posted was an Inside Lacrosse story, and it seems to be IL that used the “pandemic” term. I notice that WHO just this morning said it is very close to being a pandemic, which obviously means they don’t think it is one yet.

Apart from the semantics, this is a real shame for all the kids affected by shortened or cancelled seasons. I suspect we’ll see more cancellations.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:57 pm
by 8meterPA
laxorangebookworm wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:55 pm With all due respect, most colleges are doing this sort of thing because it's CYA. And yes, it is hysteria right now, in my opinion. Any attempts to contain it at this point are moot. It's already out there and there's not much you can do about it. The way people are reacting to this is if we had a second coming of the Black Death.

Here's something to consider. In 2019-20, the regular flu killed at least 12,000 and possibly as many as 30,000. The reaction to that? Eh, get a flu vaccine and...nothing else. 22 people have died from the coronavirus in the US so far and we're ready to end civilization as we know it and at the very least, tank the economy. If you're an elderly person or someone who's autoimmune deficient or even just not very healthy, then yes, it's a problem. But for the vast majority of people, it's not going to do much. The main reason why it's a big problem in China is because the government tried to ignore it (and to be honest, their attitude is probably "eh, what's several thousand dead in a population of billions?") and the people there are not particularly healthy. Their health care also sucks. And I say this as a person who's in contact with a ton of people at work. We'll most likely have a vaccine ready in a year or so. Just live your lives like you would normally. That's probably the best thing you can do.
If I could like this a 100 times, I would.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:58 pm
by 8meterPA
Badlands wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:24 pm
8meterPA wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:43 pm unfortunate...curious wording on Amherst press release - calling it a "pandemic"
I didn’t see an Amherst release. What I posted was an Inside Lacrosse story, and it seems to be IL that used the “pandemic” term. I notice that WHO just this morning said it is very close to being a pandemic, which obviously means they don’t think it is one yet.

Apart from the semantics, this is a real shame for all the kids affected by shortened or cancelled seasons. I suspect we’ll see more cancellations.
You're right, I read it quickly and thought it was Amherst release..It was the medical staff from IL labeling it a pandemic.

Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:15 pm
by Delco Transplant
Big 10 school Rutgers announcement:
    Beginning Thursday, March 12, through the end of spring break on Sunday, March 22, all classes are canceled.
      Beginning Monday, March 23, through at least Friday, April 3, all course instruction will be delivered remotely. All face-to-face instruction is suspended. This includes any class meetings.
        Athletic directors have been instructed to follow the guidance of their respective athletic conferences

        https://president.rutgers.edu/public-re ... g-covid-19

        Re: COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

        Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:41 pm
        by laxorangebookworm
        Syracuse University is doing the same.

        https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/20 ... cerns.html

        Madness. We're descending into f***ing madness...