We'll know next year. They'll kill some teams early on fueled by the '22 snub. I get the impression this program is on the way up and they will be more of the same scrappy, hard working, aggressive bunch next year. If they are the real deal (and I think they are) the disappointment of not making the NCAA's will make them tougher next year. I agree that they got shafted by the committee and their seeing eye dog math formulas. The math analytics entrepreneurs selling their verkakta formulas to the NCAA committee--the blind leading the blind--were responsible for pulling the obviously deserving Golden Tridents out and inserting much less deserving UConn, UMass and/or JHU. ASU graduates at least 9 this spring so the team will look different next year. I think they've got something real beginning in Tempe. I hope they continue to build and grow and become a common resident in the top 20.Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 9:25 pm Thanks for your opinion on ASU. The sad thing is that we will never know. I can tell you that the entire selection process crushed this team. All of the analysts said they were in. ESPN was on site to televise the reaction and had them in the pre show hype. The NCAA committee likely chose to ether cheap out or to be blind to the obvious. You are correct that this Sun Devil team is a scrappy, hard working and aggressive bunch. It’s a shame that they didn’t have a chance to prove it and be rewarded for their effort. So much for growing the game.
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Given how USC and Stanford (I believe both were 2-1 against ASU) performed in the tourney, I think it is a stretch to say ASU "would have had a very good chance to beat" all those teams that made it to the 2nd round.Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 9:25 pm
Completely disagree here. Arizona State was a scrappy, hard working, aggressive bunch and would have had a very good chance to beat UVA, Princeton, Michigan, JMU and/or Duke
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No way ASU would beat JMU or Duke. UVA, Michigan possibly. Dont know about Princeton.@inthe8m wrote: ↑Sat May 21, 2022 11:31 amGiven how USC and Stanford (I believe both were 2-1 against ASU) performed in the tourney, I think it is a stretch to say ASU "would have had a very good chance to beat" all those teams that made it to the 2nd round.Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 9:25 pm
Completely disagree here. Arizona State was a scrappy, hard working, aggressive bunch and would have had a very good chance to beat UVA, Princeton, Michigan, JMU and/or Duke
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The point is that ASU should have been given the chance that they earned regardless of what Stanford and USC did with their shot. They deserved to go over U Mass, U Conn and Hopkins. In my opinion they would have won the Championship by 10…and because of what Tim has instilled in his players, they also wouldn’t have scored a FU goal with seconds left.
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If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
Maryland
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There's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
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Are you suggesting they would have won the national championship by 10? They are a well coached team with momentum and I look forward to watching them but I think that is a bit optimistic. Do you know what their incoming recruit classes look like ?Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm The point is that ASU should have been given the chance that they earned regardless of what Stanford and USC did with their shot. They deserved to go over U Mass, U Conn and Hopkins. In my opinion they would have won the Championship by 10…and because of what Tim has instilled in his players, they also wouldn’t have scored a FU goal with seconds left.
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graduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
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Boston College
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Well she was a senior this year but she's got 2 years left potentially just like Bosco has.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pmgraduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
Maryland
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Boston College
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Rheude will have 3 years at her disposal after her recovery- I'm pretty sure. Is this transfer a middie by chance?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:04 pmWell she was a senior this year but she's got 2 years left potentially just like Bosco has.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pmgraduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
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Likely not…but you can’t be certain unless they got the bid they deserved. We will never know for sure so I will change my prediction to 9.tothedraw wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:51 pmAre you suggesting they would have won the national championship by 10? They are a well coached team with momentum and I look forward to watching them but I think that is a bit optimistic. Do you know what their incoming recruit classes look like ?Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm The point is that ASU should have been given the chance that they earned regardless of what Stanford and USC did with their shot. They deserved to go over U Mass, U Conn and Hopkins. In my opinion they would have won the Championship by 10…and because of what Tim has instilled in his players, they also wouldn’t have scored a FU goal with seconds left.
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Genuine question. What bid/match up did they deserve? To end the season they lost by 6 to a team that got their doors blown off by Jacksonville. Yes, they had some good wins/games, but also barely got by Oregon. Again, looking forward to watching the trajectory of this program and think the coach is one to watch.Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 8:45 pmLikely not…but you can’t be certain unless they got the bid they deserved. We will never know for sure so I will change my prediction to 9.tothedraw wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:51 pmAre you suggesting they would have won the national championship by 10? They are a well coached team with momentum and I look forward to watching them but I think that is a bit optimistic. Do you know what their incoming recruit classes look like ?Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm The point is that ASU should have been given the chance that they earned regardless of what Stanford and USC did with their shot. They deserved to go over U Mass, U Conn and Hopkins. In my opinion they would have won the Championship by 10…and because of what Tim has instilled in his players, they also wouldn’t have scored a FU goal with seconds left.
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She is a tremendous defender, great feet, excellent on the circle. The Terps are going to be absolutely loaded next year. The younger Sterling will step in at midfield, and they are getting Edmondson the top recruit in the country. There is going to be an enormous talent gap between Maryland in 2023 and the rest of the field. Right now no team will be close to the Terps. Maybe teams can close the talent gap through the portal. What will be interesting is to see if teams like UNC, whom Maryland refused to play this year will return the favor and won't play the Terps next year.hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:04 pmWell she was a senior this year but she's got 2 years left potentially just like Bosco has.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pmgraduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
Maryland
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Boston College
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Hey. I didn’t mention names. I guess you didn’t either though.suffolk wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:10 pmShe is a tremendous defender, great feet, excellent on the circle. The Terps are going to be absolutely loaded next year. The younger Sterling will step in at midfield, and they are getting Edmondson the top recruit in the country. There is going to be an enormous talent gap between Maryland in 2023 and the rest of the field. Right now no team will be close to the Terps. Maybe teams can close the talent gap through the portal. What will be interesting is to see if teams like UNC, whom Maryland refused to play this year will return the favor and won't play the Terps next year.hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:04 pmWell she was a senior this year but she's got 2 years left potentially just like Bosco has.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pmgraduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
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Gotcha, is she from an Ivy then? Or has 2 years left for other reasonshmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:04 pmWell she was a senior this year but she's got 2 years left potentially just like Bosco has.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pmgraduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
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Michigan would have been a great game. Almost beat them very early in the season before they had a chance to gel. Totally different team than late in the season. Tim scheduled the most challenging teams he could to lead up to the playoffs vs adding Detroit Mercy to get to .500 for ND. Could they have played JMU, Princeton or Duke close or even won? They were better than any of their opponents.tothedraw wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 9:47 pmGenuine question. What bid/match up did they deserve? To end the season they lost by 6 to a team that got their doors blown off by Jacksonville. Yes, they had some good wins/games, but also barely got by Oregon. Again, looking forward to watching the trajectory of this program and think the coach is one to watch.Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 8:45 pmLikely not…but you can’t be certain unless they got the bid they deserved. We will never know for sure so I will change my prediction to 9.tothedraw wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:51 pmAre you suggesting they would have won the national championship by 10? They are a well coached team with momentum and I look forward to watching them but I think that is a bit optimistic. Do you know what their incoming recruit classes look like ?Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm The point is that ASU should have been given the chance that they earned regardless of what Stanford and USC did with their shot. They deserved to go over U Mass, U Conn and Hopkins. In my opinion they would have won the Championship by 10…and because of what Tim has instilled in his players, they also wouldn’t have scored a FU goal with seconds left.
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I think Tim is great but they got outscored 53-22 by NW, Florida and SB. To think they were contenders this year is a bit of a stretch. That said, they should have gotten in the tournament.Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 12:00 amMichigan would have been a great game. Almost beat them very early in the season before they had a chance to gel. Totally different team than late in the season. Tim scheduled the most challenging teams he could to lead up to the playoffs vs adding Detroit Mercy to get to .500 for ND. Could they have played JMU, Princeton or Duke close or even won? They were better than any of their opponents.tothedraw wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 9:47 pmGenuine question. What bid/match up did they deserve? To end the season they lost by 6 to a team that got their doors blown off by Jacksonville. Yes, they had some good wins/games, but also barely got by Oregon. Again, looking forward to watching the trajectory of this program and think the coach is one to watch.Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 8:45 pmLikely not…but you can’t be certain unless they got the bid they deserved. We will never know for sure so I will change my prediction to 9.tothedraw wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:51 pmAre you suggesting they would have won the national championship by 10? They are a well coached team with momentum and I look forward to watching them but I think that is a bit optimistic. Do you know what their incoming recruit classes look like ?Everyonesgotone wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm The point is that ASU should have been given the chance that they earned regardless of what Stanford and USC did with their shot. They deserved to go over U Mass, U Conn and Hopkins. In my opinion they would have won the Championship by 10…and because of what Tim has instilled in his players, they also wouldn’t have scored a FU goal with seconds left.
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That is the only point. Some on the team will never get the opportunity back. It’s a shame.
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wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:22 pmGotcha, is she from an Ivy then? Or has 2 years left for other reasonshmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:04 pmWell she was a senior this year but she's got 2 years left potentially just like Bosco has.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pmgraduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
It is hard to imagine one of the upper class players from an Ivy who withdrew from school and thus have 2 years left would forego their chance to complete their 4th year and earn their Ivy degree. Way too much invested … in every sense of the word. Stranger things, tho …
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I agree. The second case, “2 years left for other reasons”, was supposed to mean she was from a non-Ivy but I didn’t add that. My badwatcherinthewoods wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 8:00 amwlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:22 pmGotcha, is she from an Ivy then? Or has 2 years left for other reasonshmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:04 pmWell she was a senior this year but she's got 2 years left potentially just like Bosco has.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:00 pmgraduate transfer? or a transfer with more than 1 year left?hmmm wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:38 pmThere's already an AA player transferring into MD next year from a top 10 program. The answer to your question will always be MD and UNC. MD also has an advantage as many girls from MD go elsewhere and can transfer in and receive in-state tuition. And UNC will always get just about whoever they want.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:31 pm If we are limited to these three teams only – who will attract and snag the most coveted transfers in the off-season?
Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
It is hard to imagine one of the upper class players from an Ivy who withdrew from school and thus have 2 years left would forego their chance to complete their 4th year and earn their Ivy degree. Way too much invested … in every sense of the word. Stranger things, tho …