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The Case against Stretching

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:03 pm
by Cooter
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The overall goal of this warm-up isn’t to extend your maximum range of motion, but to physically warm your muscles up to make them softer and more pliable (along with various other things like getting your heart rate up so it’s ready to deliver oxygen to your muscles). A warm-up like this is a good idea before an interval workout or race; if you’re just heading out for a run, simply easing into it by starting the first mile slowly is probably good enough.

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:54 pm
by johnnyonthegunpowder
Validation

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:43 pm
by Brooklyn
gymnastics girls make a case for not stretching with exposed skin:



A German gymnastics team wore full bodysuits in an elite competition to take a stand against the sexualization of gymnasts



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A German gymnastics team wore full bodysuits in an elite competition to take a stand against the sexualization of gymnasts


Gymnasts are starting to wear bodysuits to stand up against the sexualization of athletes.
Three German athletes wore the suits at last week's European Championships.
Sarah Voss said she wants to be a role model for those who "don't feel safe in every situation."
Visit Insider's homepage for more stories.
German gymnasts wore full bodysuits at last week's European Championships in Switzerland as a way of making a stance against the "sexualization" of the sport's female athletes.

Sarah Voss, one of three who competed in the outfit during the women's all-around final on Friday, said she wants to be a "role model for young gymnasts who don't feel very safe in every situation."

Teammates Kim Bui and Elisabeth Seitz also wore the full suits at the competition, which was held in Basel.

"To do splits and jumps, sometimes the leotards are not covering everything, sometimes they slip and that's why we invented a new form of leotard so that everyone feels safe around competitions and training," Voss told the BBC.

The International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) allows competitors to wear unitards, but they had previously been worn by athletes for religious regions.

"She may wear complete leg coverings of the same color as that of the leotard; under or on top of the leotard," the FIG rule book says.

FIG rules also say that any attire "must be of elegant design."


Speaking to the BBC, Voss said that competing in long-legged attire can allow gymnasts not to feel distracted and unsafe while in competitions, which she thinks could keep some young women in the sport in future.

"Every time you don't feel safe it's distracting you from what you want to perform. I think that feeling safe and not thinking about what other people can or cannot see is quite relieving when you can compete like that," she added.

"Some girls quit this beautiful sport [because of having to wear leotards] so that is why this is a great option for everyone to stay in the sport they love and don't think about anything else about their body - just about their performance," she told the BBC.

After Voss and her teammates' appearance in Switzerland, the German federation, the BBC reported, released a statement of support in which it said its team was making a point against "sexualization in gymnastics" - a pertinent issue given the sport's history of sexual abuse.

In 2018, Larry Nassar, a former USA Gymnastics team doctor, was convicted of sexually assaulting more than 265 minors dating back to 1993. He was given a 175-year prison sentence.

John Geddert, who was the head coach of the women's gymnastics team in 2012 and worked closely with Nassar, was charged with sexual assault and human trafficking in February of this year.

On the day charges against him were publicly announced, Geddert died by suicide.

The British-Jamaican gymnast Danusia Francis said the bodysuits worn by the German athletes would give the sport's female competitors their "power of choice back."

"I think it's amazing," Francis told the BBC. "I feel empowered that we've got this option where we can choose to cover up."

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:37 am
by SCLaxAttack
Brooklyn wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:43 pm gymnastics girls make a case for not stretching with exposed skin:



A German gymnastics team wore full bodysuits in an elite competition to take a stand against the sexualization of gymnasts



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https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/ten ... 60&o=f&l=f

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/a ... d=msedgntp




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https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/ten ... 1106&y=216






A German gymnastics team wore full bodysuits in an elite competition to take a stand against the sexualization of gymnasts


Gymnasts are starting to wear bodysuits to stand up against the sexualization of athletes.
Three German athletes wore the suits at last week's European Championships.
Sarah Voss said she wants to be a role model for those who "don't feel safe in every situation."
Visit Insider's homepage for more stories.
German gymnasts wore full bodysuits at last week's European Championships in Switzerland as a way of making a stance against the "sexualization" of the sport's female athletes.

Sarah Voss, one of three who competed in the outfit during the women's all-around final on Friday, said she wants to be a "role model for young gymnasts who don't feel very safe in every situation."

Teammates Kim Bui and Elisabeth Seitz also wore the full suits at the competition, which was held in Basel.

"To do splits and jumps, sometimes the leotards are not covering everything, sometimes they slip and that's why we invented a new form of leotard so that everyone feels safe around competitions and training," Voss told the BBC.

The International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) allows competitors to wear unitards, but they had previously been worn by athletes for religious regions.

"She may wear complete leg coverings of the same color as that of the leotard; under or on top of the leotard," the FIG rule book says.

FIG rules also say that any attire "must be of elegant design."


Speaking to the BBC, Voss said that competing in long-legged attire can allow gymnasts not to feel distracted and unsafe while in competitions, which she thinks could keep some young women in the sport in future.

"Every time you don't feel safe it's distracting you from what you want to perform. I think that feeling safe and not thinking about what other people can or cannot see is quite relieving when you can compete like that," she added.

"Some girls quit this beautiful sport [because of having to wear leotards] so that is why this is a great option for everyone to stay in the sport they love and don't think about anything else about their body - just about their performance," she told the BBC.

After Voss and her teammates' appearance in Switzerland, the German federation, the BBC reported, released a statement of support in which it said its team was making a point against "sexualization in gymnastics" - a pertinent issue given the sport's history of sexual abuse.

In 2018, Larry Nassar, a former USA Gymnastics team doctor, was convicted of sexually assaulting more than 265 minors dating back to 1993. He was given a 175-year prison sentence.

John Geddert, who was the head coach of the women's gymnastics team in 2012 and worked closely with Nassar, was charged with sexual assault and human trafficking in February of this year.

On the day charges against him were publicly announced, Geddert died by suicide.

The British-Jamaican gymnast Danusia Francis said the bodysuits worn by the German athletes would give the sport's female competitors their "power of choice back."

"I think it's amazing," Francis told the BBC. "I feel empowered that we've got this option where we can choose to cover up."
From this guy’s perspective, leggings have been the best addition
to women’s fashion in the past 30 yrs. These gymnasts are kidding themselves if they think people aren’t looking at them in the exact same way just because they’re wearing skin tight material down to their ankles.

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:51 pm
by Brooklyn
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:37 am From this guy’s perspective, leggings have been the best addition
to women’s fashion in the past 30 yrs. These gymnasts are kidding themselves if they think people aren’t looking at them in the exact same way just because they’re wearing skin tight material down to their ankles.

I've been watching girls gymnastic all my life having idolized Cathy Rigby so many years ago:

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Not sure but I think it was Věra Čáslavská who introduced barefooted gymnastics:


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It likely comes as a surprise that it is actually women and girls who much prefer the skimpier outfits. In my experience, men much prefer less revealing costumes. In fact, I've heard from guys in the past who hate synchronized swimming and rhythmic gymnastics because there's too much exposed skin.

As for me, to each their own. The leggings are just fine and if the girls want to use them, the international governing bodies should allow it. I don't quite agree that the skimpier costumes represent sexualization of the athletes. After all, mens divers wear practically nothing. Nobody calls that sexualization. But again, to each their own.

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:34 pm
by Farfromgeneva
When i saw this pop up as a new thread I was so excited seeing pics of gymnasts for a second and that this would be a fun diversion but quickly dissipated into disappointment...

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:58 pm
by Brooklyn
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:34 pm When i saw this pop up as a new thread I was so excited seeing pics of gymnasts for a second and that this would be a fun diversion but quickly dissipated into disappointment...

Explain.

I would've thought a discussion of athlete's new options would give some measure of life to the thread.

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:52 pm
by Farfromgeneva
I was expecting a visually bold and impassioned argument for why stretching is important for females.

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:12 pm
by Brooklyn
Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:52 pm I was expecting a visually bold and impassioned argument for why stretching is important for females.


Ain't I a fool for not realizing that? Well, it ain't the first mistake I ever made in my life. I shall make my amends thusly,




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixbNDOXTjw



This will give any gal much incentive for stretching.

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:30 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Now you get me!

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:20 pm
by Brooklyn
Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:30 pm Now you get me!


One thing that has always been true about me ~ I just can't refuse a friend:





:)

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:08 am
by Farfromgeneva
Brooklyn wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:20 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:30 pm Now you get me!


One thing that has always been true about me ~ I just can't refuse a friend:





:)
Thank you kind sir. We’ve disagreed on a few things, occasionally agreed, but you are a gentlemen.

FYI, I’m on a 1.5 week business mixed w some personal trip in PA/NJ (and a quick hit into Pelham then Fairfield Co) using the Poconos as my base. Won a few hundred bucks tonight at casino and this delightful image has me wondering if I should cross the border into dirty Jersey late night and see what said winnings could afford...



(Kissing, sort of)

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 11:47 pm
by Brooklyn
girl asks if you approve of her photo and pose:


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https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugzqs4iI_xde5m1fpPV4AaABCQ


degree of difficulty: 10
technical merit: 10
artistic impression: 10+

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 7:41 am
by admin
I'm moving this thread to Hamsterdam...

Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 4:34 pm
by Brooklyn
admin wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:41 am I'm moving this thread to Hamsterdam...


Gee! Now you know I respect the heck out of you but why put something as wholesome as those videos in a place like this?


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Re: The Case against Stretching

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:05 am
by Brooklyn
Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:52 pm I was expecting a visually bold and impassioned argument for why stretching is important for females.


Miss Carmen does stretching exercises and teaches it as a means of spiritually revitalizing people (not just females as she does not discriminate):





She is from the Miami area and genuinely loves her audience.