White Nationalist Terrorism
White Nationalist Terrorism
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... sequences/
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/05/ ... t-movement
Trump has a proven record of failing to condemn domestic white far right terrorists. Well, no real surprise considering the fact that they comprise a large part of his power base.
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/05/ ... t-movement
Trump has a proven record of failing to condemn domestic white far right terrorists. Well, no real surprise considering the fact that they comprise a large part of his power base.
It has been proven a hundred times that the surest way to the heart of any man, black or white, honest or dishonest, is through justice and fairness.
Charles Francis "Socker" Coe, Esq
Charles Francis "Socker" Coe, Esq
Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
The extreme right wing white nationalist movement is international in nature. There are training sites in places like the Ukraine, fund flows, a shared lexicon and strategy and so on and so on
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cradleandshoot
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Yeah we gotta watch out for those Ukrainian right wing nationalists.
OC we need to use you for our crash test dummy. Take a walk on any college campus with a MAGA hat on. Take the same stroll with a BLM hat on. Get back to us when the first intolerant hate filled person beats your ass into the ground. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pe ... ORM=VRDGAR
Does this bother you OC?? My guess is you are to busy pissing your pants over all those far right wing Ukranians to see what is going on in front of your own face. PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE turd BEAT OUT OF THEM FOR WEARING A FREAKING HAT. No problem in OC's book. So long as those Ukranian dumb f***s across the ocean are kept in check.
The point is that there is intolerance and hatred on both ends of the political spectrum. You can't call out one side and give the other a pass. I would never be caught dead in a MAGA hat but if I chose to wear any hat at all... you want to try and take it off of me... you better have some really good government health care because you will need it. Probably a very good dentist as well.
I use to be a people person until people ruined that for me.
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Stupid is as stupid does. In your case the conclusion is inescapable.
You know absolutely nothing about me. Zip. Zero. Nada. So if I were you I would try not to make myself look like an idiot because right now I am laughing at your post.
You are pretty much s fact free zone.
You know absolutely nothing about me. Zip. Zero. Nada. So if I were you I would try not to make myself look like an idiot because right now I am laughing at your post.
You are pretty much s fact free zone.
Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
The AZOV Battalion
The Ukraine has become a nexus of people with ties to Trump and white nationalists. BTW mass murders in this country are committed by these kinds of people
There are possible links between the recent New Zealand mosque shooter and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion.
The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) movement.
Recruits from the U.S., Norway, Italy, Germany, the United Kingdom, Brazil, Sweden, and Australia, among others,have reportedly traveled to train with the Azov Battalion.
The global nature of these groups is just one of several similarities between RWEs and Salafi-jihadists.
In the wake of the New Zealand mosque attacks, links have emerged between the shooter, Brent Tarrant, and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist, white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s manifesto alleges that he visited the country during his many travels abroad, and the flak jacket that Tarrant wore during the assault featured a symbol commonly used by the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s transnational ties go beyond Ukraine, however. Tarrant claimed that he was in touch with Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist, and he took trips throughout Europe, including the Balkans, visiting sites that symbolized historical battles between Christians and Muslims. During the video of his attack he could be heard listening to a song that glorified Bosnian-Serb war criminal Radovan Karadzic, and his gun featured racial messages and names of white supremacists from around the world.
The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) network. This group maintains its own ‘Western Outreach Office' to help recruit and attract foreign fighters that travel to train and connect with people from like-minded violent organizations from across the globe. Operatives from the outreach office travel around Europe to promote the organization and proselytize its mission of white supremacy. In July 2018, German-language fliers were distributed among the visitors at a right-wing rock festival in Thuringia, inviting them to be part of the Azov battalion: ‘join the ranks of the best' to ‘save Europe from extinction.'It has also established youth camps, sporting recreation centers, lecture halls, and far-right education programs, including some that teach children as young as 9 years old military tactics and far-right ideology. This aggressive approach to networking serves one of the Azov Battalion’s overarching objectives to transform areas under its control in Ukraine into the primary hub for transnational white supremacy.
Too often, the focus on foreign fighters has been relegated to Sunni jihadists, but in a globalized world, the foreign fighter phenomenon has deep roots across ideologies, from foreign fighters assisting the Kurds in Iraq and Syria, to Shi'a militants traveling from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and Lebanon to join with Iranian-backed foreign fighter networks operating in Syria. It is now evident that RWE networks are also highly active in recruiting fighters worldwide to its cause, with the Azov Battalion and other ultra-nationalist organizations playing a significant role in the globalization of RWE violence. Indeed, the Azov Battalion is forging links with RWE groups, hosting visits from ultra-nationalist organizations such as members of the Rise Against Movement (R.A.M.) from the U.S. and the British National Action from the U.K., among other white supremacists from around the world. In the United States, several R.A.M. members (all American citizens) who spent time in Ukraine training with the Azov Battalion were recently indicted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (F.B.I.) for their role in violently attacking counter-protestors during the ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, VA in August 2017.
Ironically, there are similarities in ideology, strategy and recruitment tactics between Salafi-Jihadist organizations, such as al-Qaeda and the so-called Islamic State, and RWE groups. Both types of violent groups seek to implement their own versions of what they consider to be a ‘pure’ society. There are striking resemblances between al-Qaeda's Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) and the Azov Battalion's 'Western Outreach Office,' both of which had the responsibility for promoting the cause and helping recruits reach the battlefield. Just as Afghanistan served as a sanctuary for jihadist organizations like Egyptian Islamic Jihad and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in the 1980s, so too are parts of Ukraine becoming a safe haven for an array of right-wing violent extremist groups to congregate, train, and radicalize. And just like the path of jihadist groups, the goal of many of these members is to return to their countries of origin (or third-party countries) to wreak havoc and use acts of violence as a means to recruit new members to their cause. Unlike jihadis who are attempting to strike Western targets, though, radicalized white supremacists have the added advantage of being able to blend in seamlessly in the West, just as Tarrant was able to do.
The Christchurch shooter was not simply a lone actor, but the product of a broader network of right-wing violent extremists. If the evidence ultimately proves that Tarrant went to Ukraine to train with like-minded individuals, then the attack in New Zealand was possibly the first example of an act of terrorism committed by a white supremacist foreign fighter. And unless the international community recognizes the danger posed by these transnational networks, the New Zealand attack is unlikely to be the last.
The Ukraine has become a nexus of people with ties to Trump and white nationalists. BTW mass murders in this country are committed by these kinds of people
There are possible links between the recent New Zealand mosque shooter and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion.
The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) movement.
Recruits from the U.S., Norway, Italy, Germany, the United Kingdom, Brazil, Sweden, and Australia, among others,have reportedly traveled to train with the Azov Battalion.
The global nature of these groups is just one of several similarities between RWEs and Salafi-jihadists.
In the wake of the New Zealand mosque attacks, links have emerged between the shooter, Brent Tarrant, and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist, white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s manifesto alleges that he visited the country during his many travels abroad, and the flak jacket that Tarrant wore during the assault featured a symbol commonly used by the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s transnational ties go beyond Ukraine, however. Tarrant claimed that he was in touch with Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist, and he took trips throughout Europe, including the Balkans, visiting sites that symbolized historical battles between Christians and Muslims. During the video of his attack he could be heard listening to a song that glorified Bosnian-Serb war criminal Radovan Karadzic, and his gun featured racial messages and names of white supremacists from around the world.
The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) network. This group maintains its own ‘Western Outreach Office' to help recruit and attract foreign fighters that travel to train and connect with people from like-minded violent organizations from across the globe. Operatives from the outreach office travel around Europe to promote the organization and proselytize its mission of white supremacy. In July 2018, German-language fliers were distributed among the visitors at a right-wing rock festival in Thuringia, inviting them to be part of the Azov battalion: ‘join the ranks of the best' to ‘save Europe from extinction.'It has also established youth camps, sporting recreation centers, lecture halls, and far-right education programs, including some that teach children as young as 9 years old military tactics and far-right ideology. This aggressive approach to networking serves one of the Azov Battalion’s overarching objectives to transform areas under its control in Ukraine into the primary hub for transnational white supremacy.
Too often, the focus on foreign fighters has been relegated to Sunni jihadists, but in a globalized world, the foreign fighter phenomenon has deep roots across ideologies, from foreign fighters assisting the Kurds in Iraq and Syria, to Shi'a militants traveling from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and Lebanon to join with Iranian-backed foreign fighter networks operating in Syria. It is now evident that RWE networks are also highly active in recruiting fighters worldwide to its cause, with the Azov Battalion and other ultra-nationalist organizations playing a significant role in the globalization of RWE violence. Indeed, the Azov Battalion is forging links with RWE groups, hosting visits from ultra-nationalist organizations such as members of the Rise Against Movement (R.A.M.) from the U.S. and the British National Action from the U.K., among other white supremacists from around the world. In the United States, several R.A.M. members (all American citizens) who spent time in Ukraine training with the Azov Battalion were recently indicted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (F.B.I.) for their role in violently attacking counter-protestors during the ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, VA in August 2017.
Ironically, there are similarities in ideology, strategy and recruitment tactics between Salafi-Jihadist organizations, such as al-Qaeda and the so-called Islamic State, and RWE groups. Both types of violent groups seek to implement their own versions of what they consider to be a ‘pure’ society. There are striking resemblances between al-Qaeda's Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) and the Azov Battalion's 'Western Outreach Office,' both of which had the responsibility for promoting the cause and helping recruits reach the battlefield. Just as Afghanistan served as a sanctuary for jihadist organizations like Egyptian Islamic Jihad and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in the 1980s, so too are parts of Ukraine becoming a safe haven for an array of right-wing violent extremist groups to congregate, train, and radicalize. And just like the path of jihadist groups, the goal of many of these members is to return to their countries of origin (or third-party countries) to wreak havoc and use acts of violence as a means to recruit new members to their cause. Unlike jihadis who are attempting to strike Western targets, though, radicalized white supremacists have the added advantage of being able to blend in seamlessly in the West, just as Tarrant was able to do.
The Christchurch shooter was not simply a lone actor, but the product of a broader network of right-wing violent extremists. If the evidence ultimately proves that Tarrant went to Ukraine to train with like-minded individuals, then the attack in New Zealand was possibly the first example of an act of terrorism committed by a white supremacist foreign fighter. And unless the international community recognizes the danger posed by these transnational networks, the New Zealand attack is unlikely to be the last.
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Speaks for itself
Last month, an unsealed FBI indictment of four American white supremacists from the Rise Above Movement (RAM) declared that the defendants had trained with Ukraine’s Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia officially incorporated into the country’s national guard. The training took place after the white supremacist gang participated in violent riots in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California and Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.
The indictment stated that the Azov Battalion “is believed to have participated in training and radicalizing United States-based white supremacy organizations.”
After a wave of racist violence across America that culminated in the massacre of twelve Jewish worshippers at a Pittsburgh synagogue, the revelation that violent white supremacists have been traveling abroad for training and ideological indoctrination with a well-armed neo-Nazi militia should cause extreme alarm.
Not only are white supremacists from across the West flocking to Ukraine to learn from the combat experience of their fascist brothers-in-arms, they are doing so openly — chronicling their experiences on social media before they bring their lessons back home. But U.S. law enforcement has done nothing so far to restrict the flow of right-wing American extremists to Azov’s bases.
There is one likely explanation for the U.S. government’s hands-off approach to Azov recruitment: the extremist militia is fighting pro-Russian separatists as a front-line proxy of Washington. In fact, the United States has directly armed the Azov Battalion, forking over anti-tank rocket launchers and even sending a team of Army officers to meet in the field with Azov commanders in 2017.
Though Congress passed legislation this year forbidding military aid to Azov on the grounds of its white supremacist ideology, the Trump administration’s authorization of $200 million in offensive weaponry and aid to the Ukrainian military makes it likely new stores of weapons will wind up the extremist regiment’s hands. When queried by reporters about evidence of American military training of Azov personnel, multiple U.S. army spokespersons admitted there was no mechanism in place to prevent that from happening.
Today, Azov boasts combat experience, unlimited access to light weapons, and supporters honeycombed throughout the upper echelons of Ukraine’s military and government. No longer just a militia, the organization has developed into a political juggernaut that can overpower Ukraine’s government. Two years ago, the group flexed its muscle on the streets of Kiev, bringing out 10,000 supporters to demand that the government bend to their will or face a coup.
“With its military experience and weapons, Azov has the ability to blackmail the government and defend themselves politically against any opposition. They openly say that if the government will not advance an ideology similar to theirs, they will overthrow it,” Ivan Katchanovski, a professor of political science at the University of Ottawa and leading expert on Ukraine’s far-right, commented to me. He continued, explaining:
Currently the organizations that are fascist are stronger in Ukraine than in any other country in the world. But this fact is not reported by Western media because they see these organizations as supportive of the geopolitical agenda against Russia. So condemnations are limited to violence or human rights abuses.”
The revelations of collaboration between violent American white supremacists and a neo-Nazi militia armed by the Pentagon add another scandalous chapter to a long history of blowback that dates back to the 1950’s, when the CIA rehabilitated several Ukrainian Nazi collaborators as anti-communist assets in the Cold War.
The almost unbelievable story exposes an axis of fascism that stretches across the Atlantic, from the Ukrainian capital of Kiev to the sun-washed suburbs of Southern California, where some of the most rabid modern white supremacist gangs were born.
Last month, an unsealed FBI indictment of four American white supremacists from the Rise Above Movement (RAM) declared that the defendants had trained with Ukraine’s Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia officially incorporated into the country’s national guard. The training took place after the white supremacist gang participated in violent riots in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California and Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.
The indictment stated that the Azov Battalion “is believed to have participated in training and radicalizing United States-based white supremacy organizations.”
After a wave of racist violence across America that culminated in the massacre of twelve Jewish worshippers at a Pittsburgh synagogue, the revelation that violent white supremacists have been traveling abroad for training and ideological indoctrination with a well-armed neo-Nazi militia should cause extreme alarm.
Not only are white supremacists from across the West flocking to Ukraine to learn from the combat experience of their fascist brothers-in-arms, they are doing so openly — chronicling their experiences on social media before they bring their lessons back home. But U.S. law enforcement has done nothing so far to restrict the flow of right-wing American extremists to Azov’s bases.
There is one likely explanation for the U.S. government’s hands-off approach to Azov recruitment: the extremist militia is fighting pro-Russian separatists as a front-line proxy of Washington. In fact, the United States has directly armed the Azov Battalion, forking over anti-tank rocket launchers and even sending a team of Army officers to meet in the field with Azov commanders in 2017.
Though Congress passed legislation this year forbidding military aid to Azov on the grounds of its white supremacist ideology, the Trump administration’s authorization of $200 million in offensive weaponry and aid to the Ukrainian military makes it likely new stores of weapons will wind up the extremist regiment’s hands. When queried by reporters about evidence of American military training of Azov personnel, multiple U.S. army spokespersons admitted there was no mechanism in place to prevent that from happening.
Today, Azov boasts combat experience, unlimited access to light weapons, and supporters honeycombed throughout the upper echelons of Ukraine’s military and government. No longer just a militia, the organization has developed into a political juggernaut that can overpower Ukraine’s government. Two years ago, the group flexed its muscle on the streets of Kiev, bringing out 10,000 supporters to demand that the government bend to their will or face a coup.
“With its military experience and weapons, Azov has the ability to blackmail the government and defend themselves politically against any opposition. They openly say that if the government will not advance an ideology similar to theirs, they will overthrow it,” Ivan Katchanovski, a professor of political science at the University of Ottawa and leading expert on Ukraine’s far-right, commented to me. He continued, explaining:
Currently the organizations that are fascist are stronger in Ukraine than in any other country in the world. But this fact is not reported by Western media because they see these organizations as supportive of the geopolitical agenda against Russia. So condemnations are limited to violence or human rights abuses.”
The revelations of collaboration between violent American white supremacists and a neo-Nazi militia armed by the Pentagon add another scandalous chapter to a long history of blowback that dates back to the 1950’s, when the CIA rehabilitated several Ukrainian Nazi collaborators as anti-communist assets in the Cold War.
The almost unbelievable story exposes an axis of fascism that stretches across the Atlantic, from the Ukrainian capital of Kiev to the sun-washed suburbs of Southern California, where some of the most rabid modern white supremacist gangs were born.
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runrussellrun
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Oh Canuck,
Don't recall you freaking out about Obama's signature on aid to the Ukraine during his second term. Unless I am wrong and he didn't fund and provide arms .
Is Trump a Russian stooge or a supporter of Ukraine militias.
Don't recall you freaking out about Obama's signature on aid to the Ukraine during his second term. Unless I am wrong and he didn't fund and provide arms .
Is Trump a Russian stooge or a supporter of Ukraine militias.
ILM...Independent Lives Matter
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cradleandshoot
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Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
I know your from Niagara Falls and your quirky behavior leads me to believe you lived way to close to Love Canal.OCanada wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 5:58 pm Stupid is as stupid does. In your case the conclusion is inescapable.
You know absolutely nothing about me. Zip. Zero. Nada. So if I were you I would try not to make myself look like an idiot because right now I am laughing at your post.
You are pretty much s fact free zone.
I use to be a people person until people ruined that for me.
Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
OCanada wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 6:21 pm The AZOV Battalion
The Ukraine has become a nexus of people with ties to Trump and white nationalists. BTW mass murders in this country are committed by these kinds of people
There are possible links between the recent New Zealand mosque shooter and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion.
The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) movement.
Recruits from the U.S., Norway, Italy, Germany, the United Kingdom, Brazil, Sweden, and Australia, among others,have reportedly traveled to train with the Azov Battalion.
The global nature of these groups is just one of several similarities between RWEs and Salafi-jihadists.
In the wake of the New Zealand mosque attacks, links have emerged between the shooter, Brent Tarrant, and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist, white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s manifesto alleges that he visited the country during his many travels abroad, and the flak jacket that Tarrant wore during the assault featured a symbol commonly used by the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s transnational ties go beyond Ukraine, however. Tarrant claimed that he was in touch with Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist, and he took trips throughout Europe, including the Balkans, visiting sites that symbolized historical battles between Christians and Muslims. During the video of his attack he could be heard listening to a song that glorified Bosnian-Serb war criminal Radovan Karadzic, and his gun featured racial messages and names of white supremacists from around the world.
The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) network. This group maintains its own ‘Western Outreach Office' to help recruit and attract foreign fighters that travel to train and connect with people from like-minded violent organizations from across the globe. Operatives from the outreach office travel around Europe to promote the organization and proselytize its mission of white supremacy. In July 2018, German-language fliers were distributed among the visitors at a right-wing rock festival in Thuringia, inviting them to be part of the Azov battalion: ‘join the ranks of the best' to ‘save Europe from extinction.'It has also established youth camps, sporting recreation centers, lecture halls, and far-right education programs, including some that teach children as young as 9 years old military tactics and far-right ideology. This aggressive approach to networking serves one of the Azov Battalion’s overarching objectives to transform areas under its control in Ukraine into the primary hub for transnational white supremacy.
Too often, the focus on foreign fighters has been relegated to Sunni jihadists, but in a globalized world, the foreign fighter phenomenon has deep roots across ideologies, from foreign fighters assisting the Kurds in Iraq and Syria, to Shi'a militants traveling from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and Lebanon to join with Iranian-backed foreign fighter networks operating in Syria. It is now evident that RWE networks are also highly active in recruiting fighters worldwide to its cause, with the Azov Battalion and other ultra-nationalist organizations playing a significant role in the globalization of RWE violence. Indeed, the Azov Battalion is forging links with RWE groups, hosting visits from ultra-nationalist organizations such as members of the Rise Against Movement (R.A.M.) from the U.S. and the British National Action from the U.K., among other white supremacists from around the world. In the United States, several R.A.M. members (all American citizens) who spent time in Ukraine training with the Azov Battalion were recently indicted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (F.B.I.) for their role in violently attacking counter-protestors during the ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, VA in August 2017.
Ironically, there are similarities in ideology, strategy and recruitment tactics between Salafi-Jihadist organizations, such as al-Qaeda and the so-called Islamic State, and RWE groups. Both types of violent groups seek to implement their own versions of what they consider to be a ‘pure’ society. There are striking resemblances between al-Qaeda's Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) and the Azov Battalion's 'Western Outreach Office,' both of which had the responsibility for promoting the cause and helping recruits reach the battlefield. Just as Afghanistan served as a sanctuary for jihadist organizations like Egyptian Islamic Jihad and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in the 1980s, so too are parts of Ukraine becoming a safe haven for an array of right-wing violent extremist groups to congregate, train, and radicalize. And just like the path of jihadist groups, the goal of many of these members is to return to their countries of origin (or third-party countries) to wreak havoc and use acts of violence as a means to recruit new members to their cause. Unlike jihadis who are attempting to strike Western targets, though, radicalized white supremacists have the added advantage of being able to blend in seamlessly in the West, just as Tarrant was able to do.
The Christchurch shooter was not simply a lone actor, but the product of a broader network of right-wing violent extremists. If the evidence ultimately proves that Tarrant went to Ukraine to train with like-minded individuals, then the attack in New Zealand was possibly the first example of an act of terrorism committed by a white supremacist foreign fighter. And unless the international community recognizes the danger posed by these transnational networks, the New Zealand attack is unlikely to be the last.
Ukraine has a long history of right wing white nationalist (NAZI) actors.
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o d rally where he talks about shooting people, and the crowd cheers.
https://secondnexus.com/news/trump-supp ... 68d22425b2
This is nothing short of deplorable.
https://secondnexus.com/news/trump-supp ... 68d22425b2
This is nothing short of deplorable.
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Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
This is cradle and shoot signing out.
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
This is cradle and shoot signing out.
Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:08 pm Oh Canuck,
Don't recall you freaking out about Obama's signature on aid to the Ukraine during his second term. Unless I am wrong and he didn't fund and provide arms .
Is Trump a Russian stooge or a supporter of Ukraine militias.
I believe Trump made political capital during his campaign on Obama's sending of drones, radios, Humvees, and other basically non-lethal stuff. Dem Senator Bob Menendez (and some within his administration) objected and demanded more lethal aid. Trump sent weaponry such as anti-tank Howitzers which angered Russia to some extent though Putin never lost his love for him.
Whatever the case, this has very little to do with white nationalist violence in the USA which is of greatest significance to us than does what goes on overseas.
It has been proven a hundred times that the surest way to the heart of any man, black or white, honest or dishonest, is through justice and fairness.
Charles Francis "Socker" Coe, Esq
Charles Francis "Socker" Coe, Esq
Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
The long standing goals and objectives of Russian foreign policy have all advanced since Trump took office.
Trump’s people have ties to the international far right and the far right in the USA. It is no longer a simple matter of countries having a far right because it is now international.
It got a vomit boost when Putin in his second term started defining his country as conservation, protecting traditional and family values from the values of a degenerate west led by the USA and ideas gay rights
Trump’s people have ties to the international far right and the far right in the USA. It is no longer a simple matter of countries having a far right because it is now international.
It got a vomit boost when Putin in his second term started defining his country as conservation, protecting traditional and family values from the values of a degenerate west led by the USA and ideas gay rights
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You must live in a vacuum.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 9:56 am The long standing goals and objectives of Russian foreign policy have all advanced since Trump took office.
Trump’s people have ties to the international far right and the far right in the USA. It is no longer a simple matter of countries having a far right because it is now international.
It got a vomit boost when Putin in his second term started defining his country as conservation, protecting traditional and family values from the values of a degenerate west led by the USA and ideas gay rights
Putin gained his foothold in the Ukraine and in Syria—regaining his prominence and influence on the world stage—thanks to your hero Barack Obama. Remember he promised he could help Vlad after he was reelected. He came through in spades.
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well no. Suggest you read about the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine in 2004/5 and Putin’s fear of the “color revolutions”. The West opposed the UK invasion and took measures to influence a change. Trump has tried to unwind them. Perhaps you wanted us to do more? If so what? What has Trump done in any regard to thwart Putin? Or Kim for that matter? Or even Assad.
These are strategic goals....
Where have you been hiding or perhaps better why aren’t you better acquainted with long standing Russian foreign policy goals. Oleg Kalugin described active measures as the”heart and soul’ of intelligence going back to Soviet days. In other words subversive, active measures “to weaken the West,to drive wedges in the western community alliances of ALL sorts, particularly NATO, to sow dischord among allies, to weaken the United States in the eyes of the people of Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America.... to make America more vulnerable to the anger and distrust of other people’s” just so we are clear on what they defined as their goals
Bottom line is Russian media strategy has been evolving the since his last election as well as their ties to far right organizations in the west as part of an international effort.
These are strategic goals....
Where have you been hiding or perhaps better why aren’t you better acquainted with long standing Russian foreign policy goals. Oleg Kalugin described active measures as the”heart and soul’ of intelligence going back to Soviet days. In other words subversive, active measures “to weaken the West,to drive wedges in the western community alliances of ALL sorts, particularly NATO, to sow dischord among allies, to weaken the United States in the eyes of the people of Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America.... to make America more vulnerable to the anger and distrust of other people’s” just so we are clear on what they defined as their goals
Bottom line is Russian media strategy has been evolving the since his last election as well as their ties to far right organizations in the west as part of an international effort.
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MDlaxfan76
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Sheesh, 6ft, if you would just pull yourself away from your hate of Obama, you'd realize how ridiculous you sound on the topic of Russia.6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:29 amYou must live in a vacuum.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 9:56 am The long standing goals and objectives of Russian foreign policy have all advanced since Trump took office.
Trump’s people have ties to the international far right and the far right in the USA. It is no longer a simple matter of countries having a far right because it is now international.
It got a vomit boost when Putin in his second term started defining his country as conservation, protecting traditional and family values from the values of a degenerate west led by the USA and ideas gay rights
Putin gained his foothold in the Ukraine and in Syria—regaining his prominence and influence on the world stage—thanks to your hero Barack Obama. Remember he promised he could help Vlad after he was reelected. He came through in spades.
We get it, you hate Obama and Dems.
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6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:29 am
You must live in a vacuum.
Putin gained his foothold in the Ukraine and in Syria—regaining his prominence and influence on the world stage—thanks to your hero Barack Obama. Remember he promised he could help Vlad after he was reelected. He came through in spades.
Yup. Let's play the Blame Obama game again. I suppose he should be blamed for Russia's 2008 invasion of Georgia, South Ossetia, and Abkhazia. While we're at it, let's also blame him for Russia's two invasions of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria.
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Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
I'm game...It's Obama's fault!Brooklyn wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:19 am6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:29 am
You must live in a vacuum.
Putin gained his foothold in the Ukraine and in Syria—regaining his prominence and influence on the world stage—thanks to your hero Barack Obama. Remember he promised he could help Vlad after he was reelected. He came through in spades.
Yup. Let's play the Blame Obama game again. I suppose he should be blamed for Russia's 2008 invasion of Georgia, South Ossetia, and Abkhazia. While we're at it, let's also blame him for Russia's two invasions of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria.
If we need that extra push over the cliff, ya know what we do...eleven, exactly.
Re: White Nationalist Terrorism
Yep just my hate for BarryMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:18 amSheesh, 6ft, if you would just pull yourself away from your hate of Obama, you'd realize how ridiculous you sound on the topic of Russia.6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:29 amYou must live in a vacuum.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 9:56 am The long standing goals and objectives of Russian foreign policy have all advanced since Trump took office.
Trump’s people have ties to the international far right and the far right in the USA. It is no longer a simple matter of countries having a far right because it is now international.
It got a vomit boost when Putin in his second term started defining his country as conservation, protecting traditional and family values from the values of a degenerate west led by the USA and ideas gay rights
Putin gained his foothold in the Ukraine and in Syria—regaining his prominence and influence on the world stage—thanks to your hero Barack Obama. Remember he promised he could help Vlad after he was reelected. He came through in spades.
We get it, you hate Obama and Dems.
What about these guys
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 8abc0219b1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 272661ee6b
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ ... tin-219783
Another liberal living in a vacuum zone free of any bad press about democrats. Especially lead from behind Barry.