Conservatives and Liberals

[Farfromgeneva]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/opin ... beral.html

"More than at any other time since World War II, liberalism is under siege. On the left, some people insist that liberalism is exhausted and dying and unable to handle the problems posed by entrenched inequalities, corporate power and environmental degradation. On the right, some people think that liberalism is responsible for the collapse of traditional values, rampant criminality, disrespect for authority and widespread immorality.

Fascists reject liberalism. So do populists who think that freedom is overrated.

In ways large and small, antiliberalism is on the march. So is tyranny.

Many of the marchers misdescribe liberalism; they offer a caricature. Perhaps more than ever, there is an urgent need for a clear understanding of liberalism — of its core commitments, of its breadth, of its internal debates, of its evolving character, of its promise, of what it is and what it can be.

Here is one attempt at an account, in the form of 34 sets of claims about liberalism.

1. Liberals believe in six things: freedom, human rights, pluralism, security, the rule of law and democracy. They believe not only in democracy, understood to require accountability to the people, but also in deliberative democracy, an approach that combines a commitment to reason giving in the public sphere with the commitment to accountability.

2. Understood in this way, liberalism does not mean “left” or “right.” It consists of a set of commitments in political theory and political philosophy, with concrete implications for politics and law. In North America, South America, Europe and elsewhere, those who consider themselves to be conservatives may or may not embrace liberal commitments. Those who consider themselves to be leftists may or may not qualify as liberals. You can be, at once, a liberal, as understood here, and a conservative; you can be a leftist and illiberal. There are illiberal conservatives and illiberal leftists. Historically, both Republicans and Democrats have been part of the liberal tradition. Right now, some Republicans are illiberal, and the same is true of some Democrats.

3. Abraham Lincoln was a liberal. Here is what he said in 1854:

If the Negro is a man, is it not to that extent, a total destruction of self-government, to say that he too shall not govern himself? When the white man governs himself that is self-government, but when he governs himself and also governs another man, that is more than self-government — that is despotism. … No man is good enough to govern another man without that other’s consent. I say this is the leading principle — the sheet anchor of American republicanism.

We might change “American republicanism” to “liberalism.” The idea of a sheet anchor is a useful way of linking self-government, in people’s individual lives, with self-government as a political ideal.

4. Rejecting despotism, liberals prize the idea of personal agency. For that reason, they see John Stuart Mill’s great work “The Subjection of Women” as helping to define the essence of liberalism. Like Lincoln, Mill insists on a link between a commitment to liberty and a particular conception of equality, which can be seen as a kind of anticaste principle: If some people are subjected to the will of others, we have a violation of liberal ideals. Many liberals have invoked an anticaste principle to combat entrenched forms of inequality on the basis of race, sex and disability. Liberals are committed to individual dignity.

5. Though liberals are able to take their own side in a quarrel, they do not like tribalism. They tend to think that tribalism is an obstacle to mutual respect and even to productive interactions. They are uncomfortable with discussions that start, “I am an X, and you are a Y,” and proceed accordingly. Skeptical of identity politics, liberals insist that each of us has many different identities and that it is usually best to focus on the merits of issues, not on one or another identity.

6. The rule of law is central to liberalism. The rule of law requires clear, general, publicly accessible rules laid down in advance. It calls for law that is prospective, allowing people to plan, rather than retroactive, defeating people’s expectations. It requires conformity between law on the books and law in the world. It calls for rights to a hearing (due process of law). It forbids unduly rapid changes in the law. It does not tolerate contradictions or palpable inconsistency in the law. The rule of law is not the same as a commitment to freedom of speech, freedom of religion or freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. It is a distinctive ideal, and liberals adopt it as such.

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7. Liberals believe in freedom from fear. One of their principal goals is to restrict both public and private violence.

8. Liberals are aware that all over the globe, liberalism is under assault. They note that antiliberals, both old and new, reject the liberal commitments to freedom, human rights, the rule of law, pluralism, security and democracy. They regard Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orban as contemporary antiliberals. They see Hitler and Stalin as defining practitioners of antiliberalism. They see Karl Marx and the German political theorist (and Nazi party member) Carl Schmitt as defining antiliberal theorists. Now, as in the 1940s, liberals admire Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s words about those who call for a new order: “It is not new, and it is not order.”

9. Liberal authoritarianism is an oxymoron. Illiberal democracy is illiberal, and liberals oppose it for that reason. Liberals reject illiberal populism.

10. Liberals believe that freedom of speech is essential to self-government. They understand freedom of speech to encompass not only political speech but also literature, music and the arts (including cinema). Liberals embrace the words of the Supreme Court justice Robert Jackson, a prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials: “Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.”

11. Liberals connect their opposition to censorship to their commitment to free and fair elections, which cannot exist if people are unable to speak as they wish. They cherish the right to vote. They work to defend freedom of conscience, the right of privacy, economic opportunity for all and the right to be different. They agree with Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., who championed “the principle of free thought — not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate.” Liberals who insist on that proposition do not claim that people must declare their fidelity to liberal principles, including that one.

12. Liberals are committed to freedom of religion. They believe that people should be allowed to worship in their own way or not at all. Many liberals have deep religious convictions. They are acutely aware that all over the world, some people of faith abhor the idea of separating church and state and think that the government should embrace and even enforce a large number of religious commitments. But liberals want to make the state free from domination by any particular religion, and they seek to ensure that the state guarantees safety for religion.

13. If postliberals or antiliberals insist on an official religious orthodoxy, liberals will respond: Who do you think you are?

14. Some liberals follow Immanuel Kant, who argued that people should be treated with respect and as ends, not as mere means to the ends of others. Emphasizing individual dignity, those who follow Kant are liberals because they are Kantians. Some liberals are utilitarians, seeking to maximize social welfare; they are liberals because they are utilitarians. Some liberals, known as contractarians, find it useful to emphasize the idea of a social contract between free and equal people; they are liberals because they are contractarians. Many people believe that their religious tradition compels or is compatible with liberalism.

15. Liberals prize free markets, insisting that they provide an important means by which people exercise their agency. Liberals abhor monopolies, public or private, on the ground that they are highly likely to compromise freedom and reduce economic growth. At the same time, liberals know that unregulated markets can fail, such as when workers or consumers lack information or when consumption of energy produces environmental harm.

16. Liberals believe in the right to private property. But nothing in liberalism forbids a progressive income tax or is inconsistent with large-scale redistribution from rich to poor. Liberals can and do disagree about the progressive income tax and on whether and when redistribution is a good idea. Many liberals admire Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society; many liberals do not.

17. Many liberals are enthusiastic about the contemporary administrative state; many liberals reject it. Within liberalism, there are vigorous debates on that question. Some liberals like laws that require people to get vaccinated or to buckle their seatbelts; some liberals do not. Liberals have different views about climate change, immigration, the minimum wage and free trade.

18. Liberals abhor the idea that life or politics is a conflict between friends and enemies. They associate that idea with fascism and with Dachau and Auschwitz.

19. Liberals believe that people with diverse backgrounds and views can embrace liberalism or at least certain forms of liberalism. Many liberals enthusiastically support John Rawls’s idea of an “overlapping consensus.” With that idea, Rawls called for “political liberalism,” which is meant to accommodate people with very different views about fundamental matters and which can easily be supported by people on the left, the right and the center.

20. Liberals think that on both left and right, many antiliberals and postliberals have manufactured an opponent and called it liberalism without sufficiently engaging with the liberal tradition or actual liberal thinkers. They think that some antiliberals wrongly conflate liberalism with enthusiasm for greed, for the pursuit of self-interest and for rejection of norms of self-restraint. They think that some antiliberals describe liberalism in a way that no liberal could endorse. Liberals agree with the Nobel economics laureate Daniel Kahneman and his collaborator Amos Tversky, who complained of those who try to refute a position by mischaracterizing it: “The refutation of a caricature can be no more than a caricature of refutation.”

21. Liberalism is a wide tent. John Locke thought differently from Adam Smith, and Rawls fundamentally disagreed with Mill. Kant, Benjamin Constant, Jeremy Bentham, Mary Wollstonecraft, John Dewey, Friedrich Hayek, Isaiah Berlin, Rawls, Joseph Raz, Edna Ullmann-Margalit, Jeremy Waldron, Frederick Douglass, Milton Friedman, Amartya Sen, Ronald Dworkin, Robert Nozick, Susan Moller Okin, Christine Korsgaard, Martin Luther King Jr., R. Douglas Bernheim and Martha Nussbaum are liberals, but they differ on fundamental matters. Some liberals, like Hayek and Friedman, emphasize the problems with centralized planning; other liberals, like Rawls and Raz, are not focused on that question at all. Liberals argue fiercely with one another. Many of the important practitioners of liberalism — from James Madison and Alexander Hamilton to Abraham Lincoln to Franklin Delano Roosevelt to Ronald Reagan — did not commit themselves to foundational philosophical commitments of any kind (such as Kantianism or utilitarianism). This is so even if some of them were, in an important sense, political thinkers.

22. A liberal might think that Ronald Reagan was a great president and that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was an abomination; a liberal might think that Roosevelt was a great president and that Reagan was an abomination. Liberals have divergent views about negative liberty (the right to be free from government intrusion) and positive liberty (the right to receive government help) and about whether there is a meaningful difference between them.

23. Liberals think that those on the left are illiberal if they are not (for example) committed to freedom of speech and viewpoint diversity. They do not like the idea of orthodoxy, including on university campuses or social media platforms.

24. Liberals favor and recognize the need for a robust civil society, including a wide range of private associations that may include people who do not embrace liberalism. They believe in the importance of social norms, including norms of civility, considerateness, charity and self-restraint. They do not want to censor any antiliberals or postliberals, even though some antiliberals or postliberals would not return the favor. On this count, they turn the other cheek. Liberals have antiliberal and postliberal friends.

25. If postliberals object that free markets have serious limits and that a great deal of regulation might be justified on grounds of efficiency, redistribution or fairness, liberals are likely to say: Very possibly so. If the objection is that neoliberalism is a terrible idea, liberals are likely to say: We are not sure what neoliberalism is, because the term is mostly used by people who hate it. But if it is identified with deregulation and an insistence on the ceaseless wonders of free markets, then liberals need not embrace neoliberalism.

26. It is true, of course, that if people want the government to act in illiberal ways — by, for example, censoring speech, violating the rights of religious believers, preventing certain people from voting, entrenching racial inequality, taking private property without just compensation, mandating a particular kind of prayer in schools or endorsing a particular set of religious convictions — liberals will stand in opposition.

27. Some people (mostly on the left) think that because liberals believe in private property, they cannot accept redistribution or cannot prevent economic inequality from leading to political inequality. Different liberals have different views on these questions. Some liberals insist on both the importance of private property and the need for large-scale redistribution. Nothing in liberalism is incompatible with redistribution to those who need help, and indeed, many liberals believe that the best forms of liberalism require such redistribution. Liberals insist on opportunities for all. Because liberals believe in self-government, they are strongly committed to political equality and seek to ensure it. They are aware that doing so raises serious challenges.

28. Some people (mostly on the right) think that liberals oppose traditions or treat traditions cavalierly and that liberalism should be rejected for that reason. In their view, liberals are disrespectful of traditions and want to destroy them. Nothing could be further from the truth. Consider just a few inherited ideals, norms and concepts that liberals have defended, often successfully, in the face of focused attack for decades: republican self-government; checks and balances; freedom of speech; freedom of religion; freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures; due process of law; equal protection; private property.

29. Liberals do not think it adequate to say that an ideal has been in place for a long time. As Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. put it: “It is revolting to have no better reason for a rule of law than that so it was laid down in the time of Henry IV. It is still more revolting if the grounds upon which it was laid down have vanished long since and the rule simply persists from blind imitation of the past.” Still, liberals agree that if an ideal has been with us for a long time, there might be a lot to say in its favor.

30. Liberals like laughter. They are anti-anti-laughter.

31. Some antiliberals (again mostly on the right) argue that societies need not only freedom but also constraints. They emphasize the value of community and the need for norms of self-restraint. Most liberals agree with them — mostly. They believe in the public interest and the common good.

32. Liberals insist on the difference between liberty and license. Some liberals vigorously defend certain constraints on freedom — consider restrictions on smoking or bans on the use of dangerous drugs. But they believe that constraints on freedom must be justified and that some justifications, pointing vaguely and abstractly to (say) the will of the sovereign or the public interest, are not enough.

33. Liberals insist on reason giving in the public domain. They see reason giving as a check on authoritarianism, because authoritarians feel free to exercise power and to use force without justifying their choices. Liberals insist that public power cannot be legitimately exercised solely on the ground that the king says so, the president says so or God says so — or even the people say so.

34. Liberals look forward as well as backward. They like to think that the arc of history bends toward justice. William F. Buckley Jr. said that his preferred form of conservatism “stands athwart history, yelling, Stop.” Liberals ask history to explain its plans, and they are prepared to whisper, “Go.”

Yes I suspect many here and in the world conflate political “liberal” with “liberalism” which aren’t the same thing. For many years I found the girl so between populism and political liberals (the left) to be problematic but that’s shifted on the margin for sure in the last five to ten years.

[youthathletics]

Seems like the NYT is running that after all the press from the newly elected Argentina President.

[Kismet]

On this, the 60th anniversary of his assassination in Dallas TX - it might be appropriate to consider a JFK quotation still very relevant today from his speech at American University in June 1963

“For in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal."

Something to ponder for everyone IMHO

[Brooklyn]

Republicon says "Blame Liberal media" for an article not to his liking ~ Abby Phillip Reminds Republican Governor That Writer Who Called Trump ‘Fascist’ Isn’t Liberal: ‘This Is a Conservative, By the Way’. Then he is reminded that it was written by a CONservative:


CNN's Abby Phillip Interrupts GOP Governor's Criticism With An Inconvenient Fact


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... 8cec&ei=16
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1koaaX



New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R) tried to blame the “liberal media” for an article that CNN’s Abby Phillip reminded him was written by a Republican.

Phillip had asked Sununu for his reaction to an essay published in The Atlantic on Wednesday arguing that former President Donald Trump is leaning more and more into authoritarian rhetoric.

It was written by Peter Wehner, who served as an aide in the administrations of three Republican presidents.

“When you look at articles like that, that is liberal media doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the left-wing progressives...” Sununu began.

Phillip interrupted: “This is a conservative, by the way. This is someone who worked for a Republican president.”




As always, the delusional right wing says BLAME LIBERALS though the blame belongs to them.

[Farfromgeneva]

Not surprising but this stuff moves around over time I don’t think it’s proficient to any category of policies, of course Portland is in the extreme, spent a little time out there when my nephew was in college about 45 min down the road in McMinnville. Broader conclusions are just biases and narrative fallacy kicking in though. We collectively move around like locusts. See it inside newly redeveloped neighborhoods in Atlanta every 3-4yrs. The question is can one generate growth by their own actions (not movements beyond a political subdivision’s an control) and retain the local authenticity. Experiences living in DC, Manhattan and Atlanta, three cities under constant change, tells me no. Atlanta has been completely “homogenized” at this point compared with what it was 20yrs ago.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/portland-or ... 91?mod=mhp

Once the Cutting Edge of Cool, Portland Is Now Taking Lessons From Milwaukee

The Northwestern city is trying to turn around its downtown, which has been plagued with public drug use and rising vacancies

Zusha Elinson

Lien got a screaming good deal in a market that now favors tenants, he said, and was encouraged by signs of life such as a new luxury hotel and condo development.

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“It was really a lot of soul searching,” Lien said on a recent afternoon, surrounded by racks of colorful, stylish undergarments for men. “And I really ended up pushing on the lease…Believe me, it is not a market-rate lease.”

Portland is hoping more businesses will follow Lien in deciding to stay downtown as the onetime hipster capital struggles with a wave of crime and homelessness that led Oregon’s largest city to lose population for the first time in years. City officials are offering new incentives for businesses and developers that they hope will breathe life into the area.


Steven Lien flirted with the idea of moving his business out of Portland, but ultimately decided to stay. Photo: Zusha Elision/The Wall Street Journal
Local leaders are looking for answers in unusual places. In October, Andrew Hoan, chief executive of Portland Metro Chamber, brought civic and business leaders to the Midwest city of Milwaukee to learn how it transformed its sleepy downtown with the new Deer District, an entertainment and shopping area around the Milwaukee Bucks’ home arena, and new residential and office projects over the past seven years.

In years past, when Portland was one of the coolest, fastest-growing cities parodied in shows like “Portlandia,” such a visit would have been like Andy Warhol seeking style tips from Andy Griffith.

Hoan, who was born in Milwaukee, said his hometown can offer a road map with its focus on cleanliness and public safety in the downtown area.

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“You would be hard-pressed to find a blade of grass in a park that was unmowed, a sidewalk that you or I would not feel comfortable eating our dinner off of,” said Hoan. “By doing basic services really well, they’ve created a viable place for business.”

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When Portland City Commissioner Carmen Rubio got the invite for the Milwaukee trip, she said she thought “Hmm, that’s interesting.” But she found there was much she could learn from the city, even though she was still smarting from the trade that sent Portland’s favorite NBA star, Damian Lillard, to the Bucks.

“What emerged was a friendly camaraderie,” she said “Because we’re a city trying to make it work getting through a tough time.”

Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson said that municipal leaders across the country have begun paying attention to his long-ignored city

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“Things have been very different here where we have businesses that are moving into downtown Milwaukee, we have people coming into downtown,” he said.

America’s downtowns have struggled since the pandemic with a falloff in office workers and a rise in homelessness and petty crime. Once-thriving city centers on the West Coast have been hit particularly hard.

Office and retail vacancy rates in Portland’s central business district soared to new highs, 23% and 7% respectively, in the third quarter of 2023, according to the Portland Metro Chamber. Foot traffic has stagnated this year at around 60% of what it was in 2019, the chamber said. Public drug use has flourished with the state’s new decriminalization law and the rise of fentanyl.


Milwaukee transformed its downtown with a new entertainment and shopping area around the Bucks’ arena, and with new residential and office projects over the past seven years. Photo: Mustafa Hussain for The Wall Street Journal
Portland has begun taking a more nuts-and-bolts approach. It recently started offering tax credits for businesses that sign or renew leases in the downtown area and have employees working from the office at least half the time. It also gives grants to businesses for security, fixing windows and cleaning graffiti, which Lien has made use of.

In an effort to bring more people downtown, Rubio also backed new incentives earlier this year for converting vacant office space to apartments such as waiving developer fees.

So far small local businesses have stepped up to fill the vacancies downtown. Last month, Portland Gear, a hip apparel company that grew out of a popular Instagram account, celebrated the grand opening of a large store.

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“The things that built this city that we all love about it are still here,” said Marcus Harvey, the company’s founder and chief executive. “A few little things that are issues of the times are going to pass.”

The state is also considering what it can do. Gov. Tina Kotek, a Democrat, convened a task force this summer focused on fixing Portland’s downtown. Formal recommendations are to be made in December, but the governor has already directed state police to help crack down on fentanyl dealers in Portland.

“It’s no secret that downtown Portland has faced an onslaught of challenges in recent years that have tarnished some of the characteristics that people love about Oregon’s largest city,” Kotek said in a statement “Concerns about Portland have become a statewide economic issue.”

Still, some larger retailers are giving up on the city center.

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REI, an outdoor gear and apparel company based in the Northwest, said earlier this year that it would be closing its store in the downtown area next year. It cited the highest number of break-ins and thefts in two decades, according to a letter it sent to customers.

“The decision to close was based on the continued investment for extra security each year not being sustainable in the long-term as well as unsuccessful lease renewal negotiations with our landlord,” the company said in a statement.

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REI spent an extra $800,000 on additional security at its Portland store in 2022, the company said.

Target announced it was closing three Portland stores in September, including one downtown, saying “theft and organized retail crime are threatening the safety of our team and guests, and contributing to unsustainable business performance.”

Some business owners like Lien, the underwear purveyor, questioned the complaints by companies like Target. Lien said that low staffing and no-confrontation policies at big box stores contribute to increased theft as well.

“By just saying ‘Hey, it’s time to either pay for that or put it back,’ 99% of the time they just hand it over and walk out the door,” he said.

After his flirtation with leaving downtown, Lien said he was glad he stayed. Foot traffic is picking up on his block after the Ritz-Carlton opened a new hotel nearby in late October. A revamped city park named for Portland’s famed drag queen Darcelle XV is also set to open across the street from his shop next year.

“There are struggles downtown, but I am optimistic,” he said.

Write to Zusha Elinson at [email protected]

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[Farfromgeneva]

From NY Times deal book this am: my question is “the way things are going who will win the biggest loser for 2024? Musk, Khan, Zaslov of McCarthy?” (My best guess is Khan or McCarthy but the others are strong dark horse candidates)

Any questions?
On Wednesday, hundreds of leaders in business, culture and politics will come together in New York for the annual DealBook Summit.

As Andrew prepares for a full day of interviews, we want to hear from you: What questions do you have for our interviewees?

Vice President Kamala Harris will be on the stage. So will Elon Musk, the chief executive of Tesla, chief engineer of SpaceX and chief technology officer of X; Bob Iger, the chief executive of Disney; Jamie Dimon, the chief executive and chairman of JPMorgan Chase; Lina Khan, the chair of the Federal Trade Commission; Kevin McCarthy, the former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives; Jensen Huang, the founder and chief executive of Nvidia; Shonda Rhimes, the television creator and chief executive of Shondaland; Jay Monahan, the commissioner of the PGA Tour; and David Zaslav, the chief executive and president of Warner Bros. Discovery.

We’ll cover everything from the 2024 election to going to Mars. Wars in the Middle East and Ukraine. China. Speech online, at universities and at companies. The future of media. Inflation, interest rates and recession risk. The chip wars. Labor strikes. Sports. House politics, geopolitics and succession politics. And, of course, artificial intelligence.

Submit your questions here (hyperlinked I’m adding it here : [email protected] ). We will read every one and ask the best of them onstage.

[old salt]

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/27/dei-af ... reme-court

DEI backlash hits corporate America

by Emily Peck

U.S. companies' diversity, equity and inclusion efforts are losing momentum this year after the Supreme Court's June affirmative action ruling, per a consulting firm's new report.

Why it matters: The slowdown is a reversal from the explosion in corporate DEI after George Floyd's killing pushed companies to act to address racial inequality.

"2023 has undeniably shifted the DEI landscape for years to come," write the authors of a report out Monday from DEI consulting firm Paradigm.
"External forces are no longer pushing companies to invest in DEI; instead, in some cases, external forces are pushing back on companies' investment in DEI."

Catch up fast: In June the Supreme Court struck down affirmative action in colleges — ruling that schools can't explicitly consider race in the admissions process.

Since then, the group that brought that case — American Alliance for Equal Rights — sued two law firms, challenging minority fellowships that were open only to students of color, those who identify as LGBTQ+, or those who have disabilities.
The Alliance argued the fellowships discriminated against other groups — like white people, straight people, or those who do not have disabilities.
The group also sued a venture capital fund, the Fearless Fund, for investing solely in Black women. (The case is working its way through the courts.)
In response, this fall, the law firms revised the programs, broadening their criteria to all law students at a certain stage of school. The suits were dropped.

Another major law firm — which had not been sued — proactively changed its fellowship.
The fellowships were meant to bring more minority law students into firms’ hiring pipelines, as Big Law is among the least diverse professions.
Meanwhile: In a letter this summer, 13 Republican state attorneys general urged Fortune 100 companies to take another look at their DEI programs in the wake of the court's decision.

The letter takes aim at "explicit racial quotas in hiring, recruiting retention, promotion and advancement."
Between the lines: The lawsuits and letters "will have significant downstream consequences for DEI for years to come," per the Paradigm report.

Paradigm also says that companies have de-prioritized DEI as the hiring frenzy of the past few years has slowed.
Zoom out: The DEI backlash comes on the heels of another related acronym freakout, over corporate ESG.

Both terms have become increasingly politicized and weaponized.
But corporate DEI is essentially the practice of making sure employers are treating workers fairly, said Joelle Emerson, Paradigm CEO. It's about "fair outcomes" in hiring and promotion, she said. Its meaning gets twisted in the discourse, she added.

Zoom in: For its report, Paradigm looked at anonymized data from 148 clients — about a third were in tech, and about a quarter were large firms with 1,000-10,000 employees. The firm also relied on insights and conversations with other clients.

Those in the study were motivated companies already working with a DEI consultant, but the report was a mixed bag. Companies cut spending on DEI budgets from the previous year, and fewer firms had a DEI strategy.
On the flip side, more firms had hired a senior DEI leader — and about 40% of firms track race/ethnicity representation.

Reality check: A backlash is rising, possibly because the DEI efforts made in 2020 had a real impact.

94% of the headcount increase at large firms in 2021, from the previous year, stemmed from hiring people of color, according to a Bloomberg analysis of 88 S&P 100 firms.
Many companies, for their part, still say they're committed to diversity, equity and inclusion.

[Farfromgeneva]

I get it, had an uncle kill himself two years after my dad passed, his younger brother. Was living in the Rome, NY area, his wife had passed a few years earlier, I didn’t see the signs but it was odd how much he’d visit because he was the relative success off the siblings having gotten into Low-mid Mgt at Kodak w/o an education so he turned into a little of a social climber (relative for a rural family, eh moved to Webster and made friends with like McDonald’s franchisee owners) and would drive by their parents/my grandparents home and honk and waive for years when I was a kid without stopping. Once his wife was gone and his kids moved on some out of state, now both in NC, one a military wife the other bumped around and is a green a manager for a golf course. So all that he left when he drove into the woods (leaving his dog alone at the house but at that point irrelevant) was a note that said body hurts, heart hurts and shot himself.

But i guess I only turd on old people so shouldn’t ever talk about anyone olde than me again even when I see this astoundingly sad and sobering news:

U.S. Suicides Reached a Record High Last Year

Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined

Julie Wernau

The record reflects broad struggles to help people in mental distress following a pandemic that killed more than one million in the U.S., upended the economy and left many isolated and afraid. A shortage of healthcare workers, an increasingly toxic illicit drug supply and the ubiquity of firearms have facilitated the rise in suicides, mental-health experts said.

“There was a rupture in our economic health and social fabric. We’re still experiencing the aftereffects of that,” said Jeffrey Leichter, a psychologist who connects mental health and primary care at Sanford Health, an operator of hospitals and clinics in the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa.

Men 75 and older had the highest suicide rate last year at nearly 44 per 100,000 people, double that for people 15-24. Firearm-related suicides become more common with age as people experience declining health, the loss of loved ones and social isolation. While women have consistently been found to have suicidal thoughts more commonly, men are four times as likely to commit suicide.

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Some groups remain at extreme risk. Suicide rates for American Indians and Alaska Natives are almost double the rates for other Americans.

But there is some evidence that efforts to reach people in crisis are helping. Suicide rates for children 10-14 and people 15-24 declined by 18% and 9%, respectively, last year from 2021, bringing suicide rates in those groups back to prepandemic levels.

Adults are learning how to talk to children about suicide, said Dr. Katie Hurley, senior clinical adviser at the Jed Foundation, a suicide-prevention group. More work is necessary to reach women 25-34, she said. They were the only group of women for which suicide rates increased significantly in 2022.

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“They’re taking on young adulthood while the world is on fire,” Hurley said.

Officials are trying to widen familiarity with a national Suicide and Crisis Lifeline that received a nationwide number, 988, last year. About 6% of some 5,000 respondents in a study published in October in the journal JAMA Network Open reported using 988 when they were in serious psychological distress. About a third of them said they would use the lifeline in the future.

Mental-health care is harder to find than before the pandemic. About half of people in the U.S. live in an area without a mental-health professional, federal data show, and some 8,500 more would be needed to fill the gap. Most people rely on family doctors for mental-health care, said Leichter at Sanford Health.

Suicides are difficult to predict even by clinicians, research shows.
Talkspace
, an online therapy provider, is using artificial intelligence to help mental-health providers identify patients at risk for suicide. New York City this month said it would make a Talkspace app called TeenSpace available free to teenagers 13-17.

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

What can be done to address rising suicide rates? Join the conversation below.

“People are feeling worse,” said Dr. Nikole Benders-Hadi, a psychiatrist and Talkspace’s chief medical officer. “That’s why people are using these services more.”

Help is available: Reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (formerly known as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline) by dialing or texting 988.

Write to Julie Wernau at [email protected]

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[PizzaSnake]

I get it, had an uncle kill himself two years after my dad passed, his younger brother. Was living in the Rome, NY area, his wife had passed a few years earlier, I didn’t see the signs but it was odd how much he’d visit because he was the relative success off the siblings having gotten into Low-mid Mgt at Kodak w/o an education so he turned into a little of a social climber (relative for a rural family, eh moved to Webster and made friends with like McDonald’s franchisee owners) and would drive by their parents/my grandparents home and honk and waive for years when I was a kid without stopping. Once his wife was gone and his kids moved on some out of state, now both in NC, one a military wife the other bumped around and is a green a manager for a golf course. So all that he left when he drove into the woods (leaving his dog alone at the house but at that point irrelevant) was a note that said body hurts, heart hurts and shot himself.

But i guess I only turd on old people so shouldn’t ever talk about anyone olde than me again even when I see this astoundingly sad and sobering news:

U.S. Suicides Reached a Record High Last Year

Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined

Julie Wernau

The record reflects broad struggles to help people in mental distress following a pandemic that killed more than one million in the U.S., upended the economy and left many isolated and afraid. A shortage of healthcare workers, an increasingly toxic illicit drug supply and the ubiquity of firearms have facilitated the rise in suicides, mental-health experts said.

“There was a rupture in our economic health and social fabric. We’re still experiencing the aftereffects of that,” said Jeffrey Leichter, a psychologist who connects mental health and primary care at Sanford Health, an operator of hospitals and clinics in the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa.

Men 75 and older had the highest suicide rate last year at nearly 44 per 100,000 people, double that for people 15-24. Firearm-related suicides become more common with age as people experience declining health, the loss of loved ones and social isolation. While women have consistently been found to have suicidal thoughts more commonly, men are four times as likely to commit suicide.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Some groups remain at extreme risk. Suicide rates for American Indians and Alaska Natives are almost double the rates for other Americans.

But there is some evidence that efforts to reach people in crisis are helping. Suicide rates for children 10-14 and people 15-24 declined by 18% and 9%, respectively, last year from 2021, bringing suicide rates in those groups back to prepandemic levels.

Adults are learning how to talk to children about suicide, said Dr. Katie Hurley, senior clinical adviser at the Jed Foundation, a suicide-prevention group. More work is necessary to reach women 25-34, she said. They were the only group of women for which suicide rates increased significantly in 2022.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

“They’re taking on young adulthood while the world is on fire,” Hurley said.

Officials are trying to widen familiarity with a national Suicide and Crisis Lifeline that received a nationwide number, 988, last year. About 6% of some 5,000 respondents in a study published in October in the journal JAMA Network Open reported using 988 when they were in serious psychological distress. About a third of them said they would use the lifeline in the future.

Mental-health care is harder to find than before the pandemic. About half of people in the U.S. live in an area without a mental-health professional, federal data show, and some 8,500 more would be needed to fill the gap. Most people rely on family doctors for mental-health care, said Leichter at Sanford Health.

Suicides are difficult to predict even by clinicians, research shows.
Talkspace
, an online therapy provider, is using artificial intelligence to help mental-health providers identify patients at risk for suicide. New York City this month said it would make a Talkspace app called TeenSpace available free to teenagers 13-17.

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

What can be done to address rising suicide rates? Join the conversation below.

“People are feeling worse,” said Dr. Nikole Benders-Hadi, a psychiatrist and Talkspace’s chief medical officer. “That’s why people are using these services more.”

Help is available: Reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (formerly known as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline) by dialing or texting 988.

Write to Julie Wernau at [email protected]

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A modest proposal: free handguns upon SS collection?

“Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined.”

With splatter bag, of course.

Or is the Swiftian satire too much, too soon?

[Seacoaster(1)]

I get it, had an uncle kill himself two years after my dad passed, his younger brother. Was living in the Rome, NY area, his wife had passed a few years earlier, I didn’t see the signs but it was odd how much he’d visit because he was the relative success off the siblings having gotten into Low-mid Mgt at Kodak w/o an education so he turned into a little of a social climber (relative for a rural family, eh moved to Webster and made friends with like McDonald’s franchisee owners) and would drive by their parents/my grandparents home and honk and waive for years when I was a kid without stopping. Once his wife was gone and his kids moved on some out of state, now both in NC, one a military wife the other bumped around and is a green a manager for a golf course. So all that he left when he drove into the woods (leaving his dog alone at the house but at that point irrelevant) was a note that said body hurts, heart hurts and shot himself.

But i guess I only turd on old people so shouldn’t ever talk about anyone olde than me again even when I see this astoundingly sad and sobering news:

U.S. Suicides Reached a Record High Last Year

Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined

Julie Wernau

The record reflects broad struggles to help people in mental distress following a pandemic that killed more than one million in the U.S., upended the economy and left many isolated and afraid. A shortage of healthcare workers, an increasingly toxic illicit drug supply and the ubiquity of firearms have facilitated the rise in suicides, mental-health experts said.

“There was a rupture in our economic health and social fabric. We’re still experiencing the aftereffects of that,” said Jeffrey Leichter, a psychologist who connects mental health and primary care at Sanford Health, an operator of hospitals and clinics in the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa.

Men 75 and older had the highest suicide rate last year at nearly 44 per 100,000 people, double that for people 15-24. Firearm-related suicides become more common with age as people experience declining health, the loss of loved ones and social isolation. While women have consistently been found to have suicidal thoughts more commonly, men are four times as likely to commit suicide.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Some groups remain at extreme risk. Suicide rates for American Indians and Alaska Natives are almost double the rates for other Americans.

But there is some evidence that efforts to reach people in crisis are helping. Suicide rates for children 10-14 and people 15-24 declined by 18% and 9%, respectively, last year from 2021, bringing suicide rates in those groups back to prepandemic levels.

Adults are learning how to talk to children about suicide, said Dr. Katie Hurley, senior clinical adviser at the Jed Foundation, a suicide-prevention group. More work is necessary to reach women 25-34, she said. They were the only group of women for which suicide rates increased significantly in 2022.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

“They’re taking on young adulthood while the world is on fire,” Hurley said.

Officials are trying to widen familiarity with a national Suicide and Crisis Lifeline that received a nationwide number, 988, last year. About 6% of some 5,000 respondents in a study published in October in the journal JAMA Network Open reported using 988 when they were in serious psychological distress. About a third of them said they would use the lifeline in the future.

Mental-health care is harder to find than before the pandemic. About half of people in the U.S. live in an area without a mental-health professional, federal data show, and some 8,500 more would be needed to fill the gap. Most people rely on family doctors for mental-health care, said Leichter at Sanford Health.

Suicides are difficult to predict even by clinicians, research shows.
Talkspace
, an online therapy provider, is using artificial intelligence to help mental-health providers identify patients at risk for suicide. New York City this month said it would make a Talkspace app called TeenSpace available free to teenagers 13-17.

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

What can be done to address rising suicide rates? Join the conversation below.

“People are feeling worse,” said Dr. Nikole Benders-Hadi, a psychiatrist and Talkspace’s chief medical officer. “That’s why people are using these services more.”

Help is available: Reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (formerly known as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline) by dialing or texting 988.

Write to Julie Wernau at [email protected]

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Sad story; I can't believe he left the dog alone.

[Farfromgeneva]

I get it, had an uncle kill himself two years after my dad passed, his younger brother. Was living in the Rome, NY area, his wife had passed a few years earlier, I didn’t see the signs but it was odd how much he’d visit because he was the relative success off the siblings having gotten into Low-mid Mgt at Kodak w/o an education so he turned into a little of a social climber (relative for a rural family, eh moved to Webster and made friends with like McDonald’s franchisee owners) and would drive by their parents/my grandparents home and honk and waive for years when I was a kid without stopping. Once his wife was gone and his kids moved on some out of state, now both in NC, one a military wife the other bumped around and is a green a manager for a golf course. So all that he left when he drove into the woods (leaving his dog alone at the house but at that point irrelevant) was a note that said body hurts, heart hurts and shot himself.

But i guess I only turd on old people so shouldn’t ever talk about anyone olde than me again even when I see this astoundingly sad and sobering news:

U.S. Suicides Reached a Record High Last Year

Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined

Julie Wernau

The record reflects broad struggles to help people in mental distress following a pandemic that killed more than one million in the U.S., upended the economy and left many isolated and afraid. A shortage of healthcare workers, an increasingly toxic illicit drug supply and the ubiquity of firearms have facilitated the rise in suicides, mental-health experts said.

“There was a rupture in our economic health and social fabric. We’re still experiencing the aftereffects of that,” said Jeffrey Leichter, a psychologist who connects mental health and primary care at Sanford Health, an operator of hospitals and clinics in the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa.

Men 75 and older had the highest suicide rate last year at nearly 44 per 100,000 people, double that for people 15-24. Firearm-related suicides become more common with age as people experience declining health, the loss of loved ones and social isolation. While women have consistently been found to have suicidal thoughts more commonly, men are four times as likely to commit suicide.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Some groups remain at extreme risk. Suicide rates for American Indians and Alaska Natives are almost double the rates for other Americans.

But there is some evidence that efforts to reach people in crisis are helping. Suicide rates for children 10-14 and people 15-24 declined by 18% and 9%, respectively, last year from 2021, bringing suicide rates in those groups back to prepandemic levels.

Adults are learning how to talk to children about suicide, said Dr. Katie Hurley, senior clinical adviser at the Jed Foundation, a suicide-prevention group. More work is necessary to reach women 25-34, she said. They were the only group of women for which suicide rates increased significantly in 2022.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

“They’re taking on young adulthood while the world is on fire,” Hurley said.

Officials are trying to widen familiarity with a national Suicide and Crisis Lifeline that received a nationwide number, 988, last year. About 6% of some 5,000 respondents in a study published in October in the journal JAMA Network Open reported using 988 when they were in serious psychological distress. About a third of them said they would use the lifeline in the future.

Mental-health care is harder to find than before the pandemic. About half of people in the U.S. live in an area without a mental-health professional, federal data show, and some 8,500 more would be needed to fill the gap. Most people rely on family doctors for mental-health care, said Leichter at Sanford Health.

Suicides are difficult to predict even by clinicians, research shows.
Talkspace
, an online therapy provider, is using artificial intelligence to help mental-health providers identify patients at risk for suicide. New York City this month said it would make a Talkspace app called TeenSpace available free to teenagers 13-17.

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

What can be done to address rising suicide rates? Join the conversation below.

“People are feeling worse,” said Dr. Nikole Benders-Hadi, a psychiatrist and Talkspace’s chief medical officer. “That’s why people are using these services more.”

Help is available: Reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (formerly known as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline) by dialing or texting 988.

Write to Julie Wernau at [email protected]

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

A modest proposal: free handguns upon SS collection?

“Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined.”

With splatter bag, of course.

Or is the Swiftian satire too much, too soon?

Eh my family all blew out in the last decade I’m left with a sister in cali and inlaws I’m uncomfortable around in a town I find to be messy to say the least.

[Farfromgeneva]

I get it, had an uncle kill himself two years after my dad passed, his younger brother. Was living in the Rome, NY area, his wife had passed a few years earlier, I didn’t see the signs but it was odd how much he’d visit because he was the relative success off the siblings having gotten into Low-mid Mgt at Kodak w/o an education so he turned into a little of a social climber (relative for a rural family, eh moved to Webster and made friends with like McDonald’s franchisee owners) and would drive by their parents/my grandparents home and honk and waive for years when I was a kid without stopping. Once his wife was gone and his kids moved on some out of state, now both in NC, one a military wife the other bumped around and is a green a manager for a golf course. So all that he left when he drove into the woods (leaving his dog alone at the house but at that point irrelevant) was a note that said body hurts, heart hurts and shot himself.

But i guess I only turd on old people so shouldn’t ever talk about anyone olde than me again even when I see this astoundingly sad and sobering news:

U.S. Suicides Reached a Record High Last Year

Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined

Julie Wernau

The record reflects broad struggles to help people in mental distress following a pandemic that killed more than one million in the U.S., upended the economy and left many isolated and afraid. A shortage of healthcare workers, an increasingly toxic illicit drug supply and the ubiquity of firearms have facilitated the rise in suicides, mental-health experts said.

“There was a rupture in our economic health and social fabric. We’re still experiencing the aftereffects of that,” said Jeffrey Leichter, a psychologist who connects mental health and primary care at Sanford Health, an operator of hospitals and clinics in the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa.

Men 75 and older had the highest suicide rate last year at nearly 44 per 100,000 people, double that for people 15-24. Firearm-related suicides become more common with age as people experience declining health, the loss of loved ones and social isolation. While women have consistently been found to have suicidal thoughts more commonly, men are four times as likely to commit suicide.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Some groups remain at extreme risk. Suicide rates for American Indians and Alaska Natives are almost double the rates for other Americans.

But there is some evidence that efforts to reach people in crisis are helping. Suicide rates for children 10-14 and people 15-24 declined by 18% and 9%, respectively, last year from 2021, bringing suicide rates in those groups back to prepandemic levels.

Adults are learning how to talk to children about suicide, said Dr. Katie Hurley, senior clinical adviser at the Jed Foundation, a suicide-prevention group. More work is necessary to reach women 25-34, she said. They were the only group of women for which suicide rates increased significantly in 2022.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

“They’re taking on young adulthood while the world is on fire,” Hurley said.

Officials are trying to widen familiarity with a national Suicide and Crisis Lifeline that received a nationwide number, 988, last year. About 6% of some 5,000 respondents in a study published in October in the journal JAMA Network Open reported using 988 when they were in serious psychological distress. About a third of them said they would use the lifeline in the future.

Mental-health care is harder to find than before the pandemic. About half of people in the U.S. live in an area without a mental-health professional, federal data show, and some 8,500 more would be needed to fill the gap. Most people rely on family doctors for mental-health care, said Leichter at Sanford Health.

Suicides are difficult to predict even by clinicians, research shows.
Talkspace
, an online therapy provider, is using artificial intelligence to help mental-health providers identify patients at risk for suicide. New York City this month said it would make a Talkspace app called TeenSpace available free to teenagers 13-17.

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

What can be done to address rising suicide rates? Join the conversation below.

“People are feeling worse,” said Dr. Nikole Benders-Hadi, a psychiatrist and Talkspace’s chief medical officer. “That’s why people are using these services more.”

Help is available: Reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (formerly known as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline) by dialing or texting 988.

Write to Julie Wernau at [email protected]

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Sad story; I can't believe he left the dog alone.

That crossed my mind as well but was the only reason they found his body in the truck in the woods. The oldest died the year between my father and this youngest boy three successive years form cancer that got into the brain. I think he just got detached from family in his 20s-50s and then when he needed help didn’t know how to ask. And trust me when you grow up where they did (or I did) there’s too much price and fear in asking for help until it’s often too late.

But point is this is an increasing issue in this country and it’s overlap with some
Philosophies and ideas here is not surprising.

Plus there seems to be a rule that people in my family die in fed up ways. Mass shooting, guy who’s dies in 80s from sliver infection from the 50s ultimately despite multiple heart attacks 20-30yrs earlier, legal case against hospital on my dads mother never saw kids because covid locked us out of the hospital until after she was dead, suicide.

I’ll make sure someone let you all Jamie how I go out because it will probably make for a wildly entertaining tik tok video. I just need to make it until my kids are secured on their feet in life and know their own self worth and self love.

[PizzaSnake]

I get it, had an uncle kill himself two years after my dad passed, his younger brother. Was living in the Rome, NY area, his wife had passed a few years earlier, I didn’t see the signs but it was odd how much he’d visit because he was the relative success off the siblings having gotten into Low-mid Mgt at Kodak w/o an education so he turned into a little of a social climber (relative for a rural family, eh moved to Webster and made friends with like McDonald’s franchisee owners) and would drive by their parents/my grandparents home and honk and waive for years when I was a kid without stopping. Once his wife was gone and his kids moved on some out of state, now both in NC, one a military wife the other bumped around and is a green a manager for a golf course. So all that he left when he drove into the woods (leaving his dog alone at the house but at that point irrelevant) was a note that said body hurts, heart hurts and shot himself.

But i guess I only turd on old people so shouldn’t ever talk about anyone olde than me again even when I see this astoundingly sad and sobering news:

U.S. Suicides Reached a Record High Last Year

Older men are at highest risk, while suicide rates among young people have declined

Julie Wernau

The record reflects broad struggles to help people in mental distress following a pandemic that killed more than one million in the U.S., upended the economy and left many isolated and afraid. A shortage of healthcare workers, an increasingly toxic illicit drug supply and the ubiquity of firearms have facilitated the rise in suicides, mental-health experts said.

“There was a rupture in our economic health and social fabric. We’re still experiencing the aftereffects of that,” said Jeffrey Leichter, a psychologist who connects mental health and primary care at Sanford Health, an operator of hospitals and clinics in the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa.

Men 75 and older had the highest suicide rate last year at nearly 44 per 100,000 people, double that for people 15-24. Firearm-related suicides become more common with age as people experience declining health, the loss of loved ones and social isolation. While women have consistently been found to have suicidal thoughts more commonly, men are four times as likely to commit suicide.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Some groups remain at extreme risk. Suicide rates for American Indians and Alaska Natives are almost double the rates for other Americans.

But there is some evidence that efforts to reach people in crisis are helping. Suicide rates for children 10-14 and people 15-24 declined by 18% and 9%, respectively, last year from 2021, bringing suicide rates in those groups back to prepandemic levels.

Adults are learning how to talk to children about suicide, said Dr. Katie Hurley, senior clinical adviser at the Jed Foundation, a suicide-prevention group. More work is necessary to reach women 25-34, she said. They were the only group of women for which suicide rates increased significantly in 2022.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

“They’re taking on young adulthood while the world is on fire,” Hurley said.

Officials are trying to widen familiarity with a national Suicide and Crisis Lifeline that received a nationwide number, 988, last year. About 6% of some 5,000 respondents in a study published in October in the journal JAMA Network Open reported using 988 when they were in serious psychological distress. About a third of them said they would use the lifeline in the future.

Mental-health care is harder to find than before the pandemic. About half of people in the U.S. live in an area without a mental-health professional, federal data show, and some 8,500 more would be needed to fill the gap. Most people rely on family doctors for mental-health care, said Leichter at Sanford Health.

Suicides are difficult to predict even by clinicians, research shows.
Talkspace
, an online therapy provider, is using artificial intelligence to help mental-health providers identify patients at risk for suicide. New York City this month said it would make a Talkspace app called TeenSpace available free to teenagers 13-17.

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

What can be done to address rising suicide rates? Join the conversation below.

“People are feeling worse,” said Dr. Nikole Benders-Hadi, a psychiatrist and Talkspace’s chief medical officer. “That’s why people are using these services more.”

Help is available: Reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (formerly known as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline) by dialing or texting 988.

Write to Julie Wernau at [email protected]

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Sad story; I can't believe he left the dog alone.

That crossed my mind as well but was the only reason they found his body in the truck in the woods. The oldest died the year between my father and this youngest boy three successive years form cancer that got into the brain. I think he just got detached from family in his 20s-50s and then when he needed help didn’t know how to ask. And trust me when you grow up where they did (or I did) there’s too much price and fear in asking for help until it’s often too late.

But point is this is an increasing issue in this country and it’s overlap with some
Philosophies and ideas here is not surprising.

Plus there seems to be a rule that people in my family die in fed up ways. Mass shooting, guy who’s dies in 80s from sliver infection from the 50s ultimately despite multiple heart attacks 20-30yrs earlier, legal case against hospital on my dads mother never saw kids because covid locked us out of the hospital until after she was dead, suicide.

I’ll make sure someone let you all Jamie how I go out because it will probably make for a wildly entertaining tik tok video. I just need to make it until my kids are secured on their feet in life and know their own self worth and self love.

I find myself with a similar raison d'être these days.

[Farfromgeneva]

Oh Neal Brennan has solved the gun debate. And I LOVE it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cDVUlSR7dA

[PizzaSnake]

Oh Neal Brennan has solved the gun debate. And I LOVE it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cDVUlSR7dA

“And now they’re all dead.”

As I was saying on the environment thread about endemic stupidity.

In general I’m pretty live-and-let-live, but this weapon fetish nonsense is impinging on everyone else’s lives.

This nonsense needs to stop. Grow the fcuk up.

“Know your role.”

[NattyBohChamps04]

Kissinger dead at 100. Estimates of 3 Million dead because of him. Plus all the other atrocities and terrible decisions. Life's strange in that so many terrible people get to live for so long, and so many good ones are gone way too early.

“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.” - Anthony Bourdain, 2001

"Frequently, I’ve come to regret things I’ve said. This, from 2001, is not one of those times: [above quote]" - Anthony Bourdain, 2018

[Farfromgeneva]

Oh Neal Brennan has solved the gun debate. And I LOVE it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cDVUlSR7dA

“And now they’re all dead.”

As I was saying on the environment thread about endemic stupidity.

In general I’m pretty live-and-let-live, but this weapon fetish nonsense is impinging on everyone else’s lives.

This nonsense needs to stop. Grow the fcuk up.

“Know your role.”

How do you feel on a scale of 1-10? “Fng million!”

“I’m just going to hit this button…have we started yet? Ok, and their all dead.

When BS and fake it until you make it meets reality.

[Farfromgeneva]

Kissinger dead at 100. Estimates of 3 Million dead because of him. Plus all the other atrocities and terrible decisions. Life's strange in that so many terrible people get to live for so long, and so many good ones are gone way too early.

“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.” - Anthony Bourdain, 2001

"Frequently, I’ve come to regret things I’ve said. This, from 2001, is not one of those times: [above quote]" - Anthony Bourdain, 2018

Love me some Bourdain. Used to hit Brasserie Les Halles where he worked for a long time with my dinner allowance as it was close to the office and get the 22 dollar steak Pom fritte and two beers with a few colleague buddies like 3 days a week. That work stretch about two hours after getting back to the office after dinner was brutal because when you work evenings through midnight it’s all desktop work as the lawyer, accountant and client calls are usually 9-6 or so except fire drills. Felt like eating three thanksgiving meals and then having to focus at 10-11pm…

He was cool guy too met him once briefly. Will blow cradles mind to know he was a heroin addict who ended up clean for many multiples of the time he was an addict.

[PizzaSnake]

Kissinger dead at 100. Estimates of 3 Million dead because of him. Plus all the other atrocities and terrible decisions. Life's strange in that so many terrible people get to live for so long, and so many good ones are gone way too early.

“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.” - Anthony Bourdain, 2001

"Frequently, I’ve come to regret things I’ve said. This, from 2001, is not one of those times: [above quote]" - Anthony Bourdain, 2018

Ding-dong the witch is dead.

[Brooklyn]

CONservative George Santos expelled from Congress:


https://www.google.com/search?q=Santos+ ... e&ie=UTF-8


Mebbe Gov Hochul will appoint a Democrat for the Long Island kooks who voted that clown into office. No tears for Santos who has the option of working in drag bars:





That, at the very least, is an honest living.