Conservative Ideology: A Big Lie

[jhu72]

Lake is a true, no holds barred moron.

... she makes Rudy Giuliani look smart.

[Peter Brown]

Lake is a true, no holds barred moron.

... she makes Rudy Giuliani look smart.

Kari Lake in all likelihood has an IQ twice that of any person on this board. She was an evening anchor on Arizona’s #1 news channel for 22 years. She saw the advancing social rot of the Democratic Party so she switched. She saw an incredibly murky counting system in 2020 for Arizona (where Fox inexplicably called the state an hour after polls closed while many ballots had yet been counted, a state which ended up being razor thin, where even lib networks wouldn’t call it days afterward), so she wants a better system.

Libs are intimidated by smart, tough, conservative women.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Sure; nutcake, idiot or grifter.

https://www.thebulwark.com/the-truth-ac ... kari-lake/

[Peter Brown]

Sure; nutcake, idiot or grifter.

https://www.thebulwark.com/the-truth-ac ... kari-lake/

You use an article by Amanda Carpenter to say Lake is dumb?!?? The Bulwark is a clown car of TDS promotional marketing.

One example Amanda uses is Kari stating that young kids have a very low risk of bad outcomes from Covid. Uhhh, yeah. That’s true. What’s Amanda suggesting here. That’s kids are at risk from covid? What a tool. TDS rots brains

[Seacoaster(1)]

This is actually worse -- and predictably dumber -- than defending the criminal, pardon-toting, QAnon peddling, Fifth Amendment taking Mike Flynn:

“Paul Gosar is one of the greatest congressmen this country has ever seen.” He's nearly certifiably crazy and a Big Lie proponent. I suppose we all know a lot of politicians whose brothers and sisters urge us to resist.

“The truth is that hydroxychloroquine works and other inexpensive treatments work.” Umm, not really.

"Wasn’t it great to hear from President Trump? . . . Do you guys love him as much as I love him? Let me ask you this? Do you miss him as much as I miss him? Ah! Can we just get him back, please? God, I don’t know. I love that president because you know why he loves us. He loves us so much. He loves this country. He fights for us and he always put America first. Every day, he fought for us. He still does. And I am so proud because of President Trump to say that I am a Trump Republican." North Korea stuff here; just creepy cult worship.

“It’s not enough to say you are for ‘Election Integrity’ if you are not for DECERTIFYING the 2020 election is wrongdoing, fraud, or different results are revealed.” Big Lie Proponent; anti-democratic lies to win office.

"The count was right, but that’s including bad votes, fraudulent votes, dead people voting and all of that. They never put in the important part. They only put the little tiny half-truth that supports their narrative, their propagandas, and they all should be ashamed of themselves. And frankly, if they’re doing this with knowledge that they’re putting out fake news and false news and propaganda, we should look at criminally charging them as well because they are duping the public." Media opposition means media criminality; check.

“I think Katie Hobbs is going to have a really tough time campaigning from behind bars, to be honest.” Political opponents belong in jail; check.

Of course, these are Lake's quotes; they really have nothing to do with the byline of the article, your usual fallback when the indefensible needs defending. But the reality is Lake's views (discernment and depth of understanding) probably synchs up pretty well with yours.

[Peter Brown]

This is actually worse -- and predictably dumber -- than defending the criminal, pardon-toting, QAnon peddling, Fifth Amendment taking Mike Flynn:

“Paul Gosar is one of the greatest congressmen this country has ever seen.” He's nearly certifiably crazy and a Big Lie proponent. I suppose we all know a lot of politicians whose brothers and sisters urge us to resist.

“The truth is that hydroxychloroquine works and other inexpensive treatments work.” Umm, not really.

"Wasn’t it great to hear from President Trump? . . . Do you guys love him as much as I love him? Let me ask you this? Do you miss him as much as I miss him? Ah! Can we just get him back, please? God, I don’t know. I love that president because you know why he loves us. He loves us so much. He loves this country. He fights for us and he always put America first. Every day, he fought for us. He still does. And I am so proud because of President Trump to say that I am a Trump Republican." North Korea stuff here; just creepy cult worship.

“It’s not enough to say you are for ‘Election Integrity’ if you are not for DECERTIFYING the 2020 election is wrongdoing, fraud, or different results are revealed.” Big Lie Proponent; anti-democratic lies to win office.

"The count was right, but that’s including bad votes, fraudulent votes, dead people voting and all of that. They never put in the important part. They only put the little tiny half-truth that supports their narrative, their propagandas, and they all should be ashamed of themselves. And frankly, if they’re doing this with knowledge that they’re putting out fake news and false news and propaganda, we should look at criminally charging them as well because they are duping the public." Media opposition means media criminality; check.

“I think Katie Hobbs is going to have a really tough time campaigning from behind bars, to be honest.” Political opponents belong in jail; check.

Of course, these are Lake's quotes; they really have nothing to do with the byline of the article, your usual fallback when the indefensible needs defending. But the reality is Lake's views (discernment and depth of understanding) probably synchs up pretty well with yours.

Nothing she says is really all that bizarre. And of course you don’t include any context.

She continually says that line about Hobbes (a true lunatic leftist lockdown fanatic) in jest, but you guys keep printing it as if Kari actually cares about locking Katie up.

One byproduct of TDS has been the evaporation of any sense of humor by the left. The late night talk show hosts are prime examples of this; just dreadful mind numbing anti Republican agitprop devoid of any wit, irony, and laughter. Same goes for journalists who are trying to spoon feed baby minds what they think they want, a steady diet of TDS lunacy.

Anyone’s first instinct reading any journalist, left or right, should be to be cynical. But the left is the antipode of cynical; when reading the likes of an Amanda Carpenter, they’re like kids at Disneyland, deliriously enthralled with the narrative, unaware that the princess is fantasy.

Just incredible stuff.

[MDlaxfan76]

IQ ???

On what basis would one make such a claim?
Surely not based on her academic background...she grew up middle class in Wisconsin, daughter of a teacher/coach and nurse, so no disadvantages, got her BA in communications and journalism from University of Iowa...no academic honors from a school with an 84% acceptance rate...72% grad rate. 83rd ranked US national university...but hey, #13 in top party schools. So, at least based on academic performance, no basis for claiming high IQ there...

Would it be on the basis of her ridiculously stupid public statements? A few are mentioned here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake

[Seacoaster(1)]

Perfect; largely a non-response (which I get, really), adoption of Lake's Big Lie as OK, and the well-known "I was just joking about jailing the media and my political opponents" defense. As you would say, "revealing." Give the bad trolling a break today.

[Peter Brown]

Perfect; largely a non-response (which I get, really), adoption of Lake's Big Lie as OK, and the well-known "I was just joking about jailing the media and my political opponents" defense. As you would say, "revealing." Give the bad trolling a break today.

Have you ever considered that it’s your beliefs that are the incorrect ones?

[Peter Brown]

IQ ???

On what basis would one make such a claim?
Surely not based on her academic background...she grew up middle class in Wisconsin, daughter of a teacher/coach and nurse, so no disadvantages, got her BA in communications and journalism from University of Iowa...no academic honors from a school with an 84% acceptance rate...72% grad rate. 83rd ranked US national university...but hey, #13 in top party schools. So, at least based on academic performance, no basis for claiming high IQ there...

Would it be on the basis of her ridiculously stupid public statements? A few are mentioned here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake

Lake can talk extemporaneously for hours on any subject you toss her way. Better still, she’ll admit if she doesn’t know, yet still engage you on the subject.

High IQ students don’t necessarily ace rote-rewarded school exams.

Further, your elitism is showing with the crack at Iowa. Not everyone was born to wealthy parents, MD, or leveraged elite sports to get admitted to Ivy League schools just so they can study Chaucer and BIPOC poetry.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Perfect; largely a non-response (which I get, really), adoption of Lake's Big Lie as OK, and the well-known "I was just joking about jailing the media and my political opponents" defense. As you would say, "revealing." Give the bad trolling a break today.

Have you ever considered that it’s your beliefs that are the incorrect ones?

Yes, I have.

[MDlaxfan76]

yup, Petey, you are indeed a better example of waste...silver spoon to state education frat basement.

I have no issue with Iowa...but heck, take tough courses and earn academic honors there before claiming "IQ double"..."rote-rewarded school exams"...

but hey, "she can talk extemporaneously for hours on any subject you toss her way"...and even if she doesn't know anything about it, "yet still engage"...

I guess that's what substitutes for intelligence, knowledge and expertise in your world, Petey, gab on endlessly about topics one has no knowledge or understanding of... and then claim that means high IQ!!!

[jhu72]

... well Petey has certainly used that model to prove conclusively that he can't think or talk his way out of a wet paper bag.

[Peter Brown]

yup, Petey, you are indeed a better example of waste...silver spoon to state education frat basement.

I have no issue with Iowa...but heck, take tough courses and earn academic honors there before claiming "IQ double"..."rote-rewarded school exams"...

but hey, "she can talk extemporaneously for hours on any subject you toss her way"...and even if she doesn't know anything about it, "yet still engage"...

I guess that's what substitutes for intelligence, knowledge and expertise in your world, Petey, gab on endlessly about topics one has no knowledge or understanding of... and then claim that means high IQ!!!

So when you post that ‘such and such school has an admission rate of 84%’, we should assume that you Mr Ivy League simply stating a fact but you have no implied negative narrative you’re selling?

[MDlaxfan76]

yup, Petey, you are indeed a better example of waste...silver spoon to state education frat basement.

I have no issue with Iowa...but heck, take tough courses and earn academic honors there before claiming "IQ double"..."rote-rewarded school exams"...

but hey, "she can talk extemporaneously for hours on any subject you toss her way"...and even if she doesn't know anything about it, "yet still engage"...

I guess that's what substitutes for intelligence, knowledge and expertise in your world, Petey, gab on endlessly about topics one has no knowledge or understanding of... and then claim that means high IQ!!!

So when you post that ‘such and such school has an admission rate of 84%’, we should assume that you Mr Ivy League simply stating a fact but you have no implied negative narrative you’re selling?

"negative narrative"???
I didn't make such a stupid claim about her IQ being double anyone on here...

Iowa is not highly selective, fact.
But that doesn't mean that they don't get some quite bright students.
So, if one goes there and is indeed such a bright student, then the competition to stand out as such is not terrifically high.
And she did not stand out.

And sure, that does imply that your rather dumb claim about her IQ was not substantiated by her academic performance
You want to call that a "negative narrative" fine by me...it's also an accurate one.

Of course, someone might be plenty bright, but just unmotivated...or one could be dyslexic or have some other challenge and indeed be plenty bright...all sorts of possibilities.

But then we have her numbskull statements...and not just a couple oops or gaffes, but lots and lots of ignorant statements.

Put those together, and well...

You want to call that a "negative narrative", fine by me as well.

[jhu72]

What a genius idea!

[jhu72]

Fascist Iowa governor - Kim Reynolds - called out.

[Brooklyn]

sound manifestations of Repukeblicon ideology:




https://i.imgur.com/ZvBNREw.png

[Seacoaster(1)]

sound manifestations of Repukeblicon ideology:




https://i.imgur.com/ZvBNREw.png

These people are not "wingnuts" in the sense of fringe; they are absolutely mainstream minds in the GOP now.

[Brooklyn]

sound manifestations of Repukeblicon ideology:



https://i.imgur.com/ZvBNREw.png

These people are not "wingnuts" in the sense of fringe; they are absolutely mainstream minds in the GOP now.