They’ve got another good one coming in from Brunswick, looks like he can dominate games.PulpExposure wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:53 amAgreed - he was Notre Dame's Jon Garino this year. Both were unexpected dominant players.coda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:01 amThe biggest surprise of the final 4 was Will Lynch winning ~60% of his draws. If you told 100 lacrosse fans the ND would win at the X in the final four, 90 of them would have picked ND to win the NC. Will Lynch was the biggest factor in the final 4, that nobody talks about. He turned a perceived weakness into a strength. He came into the tournament with a 46.6% win percentage and won almost 60% of his draws in the tournament (59.5%) and 58.5% in the final 4.
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Greenspan?? Very solid. Always tough to predict FOGOs though.10stone5 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:29 amThey’ve got another good one coming in from Brunswick, looks like he can dominate games.PulpExposure wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:53 amAgreed - he was Notre Dame's Jon Garino this year. Both were unexpected dominant players.coda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:01 amThe biggest surprise of the final 4 was Will Lynch winning ~60% of his draws. If you told 100 lacrosse fans the ND would win at the X in the final four, 90 of them would have picked ND to win the NC. Will Lynch was the biggest factor in the final 4, that nobody talks about. He turned a perceived weakness into a strength. He came into the tournament with a 46.6% win percentage and won almost 60% of his draws in the tournament (59.5%) and 58.5% in the final 4.
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Boyden is as pure of a Canadian attackman as you'll find. Complete player. High IQ and motor. Creative. Great hands. Plays off ball really, really well. Finishes his shots. Comfortable inside and out. Really fun to watch as he typically let's the game come to him. No clue on how he'll mesh or where he'll fit in, but he's a fantastic talent.
Def not as big or physical as Betrand though. He got pushed around a bit, but he never seemed afraid of contact.
Def not as big or physical as Betrand though. He got pushed around a bit, but he never seemed afraid of contact.
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Please D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
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The middle school kids I coach would beat most top 25 d3 programs… horrible lacrosse gets played at d3 they just don’t wanna admit itlorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
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Haha. That’s an impressive middle school crew, BigDawg. You must be a great coach as well.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:44 amThe middle school kids I coach would beat most top 25 d3 programs… horrible lacrosse gets played at d3 they just don’t wanna admit itlorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
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Max Waldbaum scored 46 points at Tufts his senior year before transferring to Jacksonville and dropping 72 points(4G/2A vs Duke).. was an AA that year as well. Sure it’s easier to score more points in D3 than it is in D1, but scoring 290 points in 2 years at any level is ridiculous.lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
My point was that really good D3 players can play at any level. You can see it first hand the past few years:
- Kevin Rogers (3rd team AA for HPU)
- Ronan Jacoby (HM AA at Rutgers)
- Cross Ferrera (Starter in PLL)
- Max Wayne (started his first game in PLL last week)
- Luke Keating (61 points at Villanova during 5th year)
- Tyler Gallagher (Started at OSU)
I can keep going..
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I like this young man's game. I think he'll fit in nicely. Elusive and slippery. Great stick and stresses defenses as a high IQ/QB type. Reminds me of a guy I played with who was also a kid from Canada who happened to be a D2 -> D1 transfer. Also "too small." But he did ok, being named a 1st team AA for Loyola:MVPiccoli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:38 am Boyden is as pure of a Canadian attackman as you'll find. Complete player. High IQ and motor. Creative. Great hands. Plays off ball really, really well. Finishes his shots. Comfortable inside and out. Really fun to watch as he typically let's the game come to him. No clue on how he'll mesh or where he'll fit in, but he's a fantastic talent.
Def not as big or physical as Betrand though. He got pushed around a bit, but he never seemed afraid of contact.
https://www.whitbysportshalloffame.com/ ... ee%20games.
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100%. If you're hating on D3, you've never really watched D3.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:03 pmMax Waldbaum scored 46 points at Tufts his senior year before transferring to Jacksonville and dropping 72 points(4G/2A vs Duke).. was an AA that year as well. Sure it’s easier to score more points in D3 than it is in D1, but scoring 290 points in 2 years at any level is ridiculous.lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
My point was that really good D3 players can play at any level. You can see it first hand the past few years:
- Kevin Rogers (3rd team AA for HPU)
- Ronan Jacoby (HM AA at Rutgers)
- Cross Ferrera (Starter in PLL)
- Max Wayne (started his first game in PLL last week)
- Luke Keating (61 points at Villanova during 5th year)
- Tyler Gallagher (Started at OSU)
I can keep going..
There are some very good teams/individual players in that Top 30 range.
Due to Title9 and football, the growth of the men's D1 college game simply hasn't matched the growth of the boy's HS game so lots of great players don't get seen, are late bloomers, or don't initially choose the D1 path.
I'd add- didn't UVA also get a transfer defenseman from Lynchburg a few years back who turned out pretty good for them too?
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Scrimmages being what they are, a chance to install, evaluate, and get some runs against another jersey, I won't belabor outcomes. But man, there are some grown ass players walking around in D3. They just fell out of the D1 picture for the situations Kramerica stated, and other less savory reasons.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:36 pm100%. If you're hating on D3, you've never really watched D3.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:03 pmMax Waldbaum scored 46 points at Tufts his senior year before transferring to Jacksonville and dropping 72 points(4G/2A vs Duke).. was an AA that year as well. Sure it’s easier to score more points in D3 than it is in D1, but scoring 290 points in 2 years at any level is ridiculous.lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
My point was that really good D3 players can play at any level. You can see it first hand the past few years:
- Kevin Rogers (3rd team AA for HPU)
- Ronan Jacoby (HM AA at Rutgers)
- Cross Ferrera (Starter in PLL)
- Max Wayne (started his first game in PLL last week)
- Luke Keating (61 points at Villanova during 5th year)
- Tyler Gallagher (Started at OSU)
I can keep going..
There are some very good teams/individual players in that Top 30 range.
Due to Title9 and football, the growth of the men's D1 college game simply hasn't matched the growth of the boy's HS game so lots of great players don't get seen, are late bloomers, or don't initially choose the D1 path.
I'd add- didn't UVA also get a transfer defenseman from Lynchburg a few years back who turned out pretty good for them too?
While at Cabrini, we scrimmaged 'Nova. They were a borderline top 20 at the time, we were a lower level top 20 D3 squad. Starters on starters, we were fine. Really, I mean, it didn't feel any different other than having that LSM from Colorado hack the out of us. But once the subbing started. Ugh. Gross. I think it's mostly pure roster depth, which is natural for obvious reasons. The bottom 3/4's of the division are not going to have more than maybe one or two kids that could even get a sniff at a D1 roster spot though, that's true enough.
In the covid shortened year, 2020, Cabrini scrimmaged UPenn in the preseason, again best on best. You're welcome to ask anyone on the UPenn roster about the score/experience.
Bottom line, there is talent at all levels like never before.
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Laughed out loud on that one...Atticus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:01 pmHaha. That’s an impressive middle school crew, BigDawg. You must be a great coach as well.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:44 amThe middle school kids I coach would beat most top 25 d3 programs… horrible lacrosse gets played at d3 they just don’t wanna admit itlorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
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jealousyLaxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
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Yep.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:53 pmjealousyLaxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
At Hopkins, Gib Versfeld was an excellent addition to the team. I even kinda wish he was given more starts.
I would guess that even most Division I First Team AAs would have a tough time matching Boyden’s production at the Division III level.
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I have watched Division III games from time to time.MVPiccoli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:45 pmScrimmages being what they are, a chance to install, evaluate, and get some runs against another jersey, I won't belabor outcomes. But man, there are some grown ass players walking around in D3. They just fell out of the D1 picture for the situations Kramerica stated, and other less savory reasons.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:36 pm100%. If you're hating on D3, you've never really watched D3.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:03 pmMax Waldbaum scored 46 points at Tufts his senior year before transferring to Jacksonville and dropping 72 points(4G/2A vs Duke).. was an AA that year as well. Sure it’s easier to score more points in D3 than it is in D1, but scoring 290 points in 2 years at any level is ridiculous.lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
My point was that really good D3 players can play at any level. You can see it first hand the past few years:
- Kevin Rogers (3rd team AA for HPU)
- Ronan Jacoby (HM AA at Rutgers)
- Cross Ferrera (Starter in PLL)
- Max Wayne (started his first game in PLL last week)
- Luke Keating (61 points at Villanova during 5th year)
- Tyler Gallagher (Started at OSU)
I can keep going..
There are some very good teams/individual players in that Top 30 range.
Due to Title9 and football, the growth of the men's D1 college game simply hasn't matched the growth of the boy's HS game so lots of great players don't get seen, are late bloomers, or don't initially choose the D1 path.
I'd add- didn't UVA also get a transfer defenseman from Lynchburg a few years back who turned out pretty good for them too?
While at Cabrini, we scrimmaged 'Nova. They were a borderline top 20 at the time, we were a lower level top 20 D3 squad. Starters on starters, we were fine. Really, I mean, it didn't feel any different other than having that LSM from Colorado hack the out of us. But once the subbing started. Ugh. Gross. I think it's mostly pure roster depth, which is natural for obvious reasons. The bottom 3/4's of the division are not going to have more than maybe one or two kids that could even get a sniff at a D1 roster spot though, that's true enough.
In the covid shortened year, 2020, Cabrini scrimmaged UPenn in the preseason, again best on best. You're welcome to ask anyone on the UPenn roster about the score/experience.
Bottom line, there is talent at all levels like never before.
The stick skills are on par with much of Division I, but seemed to me the biggest difference was in athleticism. Division III players just seemed, on average, smaller with less speed. I think the gap has narrowed considerably, at least at the top tier of Division III.
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Re: UVA 2024
My son played summer ball with a mix of primarily high end D1, numerous AA's, and a few guys from Salisbury and Stevenson. One from Tufts. One from Middlebury.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:29 pmI have watched Division III games from time to time.MVPiccoli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:45 pmScrimmages being what they are, a chance to install, evaluate, and get some runs against another jersey, I won't belabor outcomes. But man, there are some grown ass players walking around in D3. They just fell out of the D1 picture for the situations Kramerica stated, and other less savory reasons.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:36 pm100%. If you're hating on D3, you've never really watched D3.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:03 pmMax Waldbaum scored 46 points at Tufts his senior year before transferring to Jacksonville and dropping 72 points(4G/2A vs Duke).. was an AA that year as well. Sure it’s easier to score more points in D3 than it is in D1, but scoring 290 points in 2 years at any level is ridiculous.lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
My point was that really good D3 players can play at any level. You can see it first hand the past few years:
- Kevin Rogers (3rd team AA for HPU)
- Ronan Jacoby (HM AA at Rutgers)
- Cross Ferrera (Starter in PLL)
- Max Wayne (started his first game in PLL last week)
- Luke Keating (61 points at Villanova during 5th year)
- Tyler Gallagher (Started at OSU)
I can keep going..
There are some very good teams/individual players in that Top 30 range.
Due to Title9 and football, the growth of the men's D1 college game simply hasn't matched the growth of the boy's HS game so lots of great players don't get seen, are late bloomers, or don't initially choose the D1 path.
I'd add- didn't UVA also get a transfer defenseman from Lynchburg a few years back who turned out pretty good for them too?
While at Cabrini, we scrimmaged 'Nova. They were a borderline top 20 at the time, we were a lower level top 20 D3 squad. Starters on starters, we were fine. Really, I mean, it didn't feel any different other than having that LSM from Colorado hack the out of us. But once the subbing started. Ugh. Gross. I think it's mostly pure roster depth, which is natural for obvious reasons. The bottom 3/4's of the division are not going to have more than maybe one or two kids that could even get a sniff at a D1 roster spot though, that's true enough.
In the covid shortened year, 2020, Cabrini scrimmaged UPenn in the preseason, again best on best. You're welcome to ask anyone on the UPenn roster about the score/experience.
Bottom line, there is talent at all levels like never before.
The stick skills are on par with much of Division I, but seemed to me the biggest difference was in athleticism. Division III players just seemed, on average, smaller with less speed. I think the gap has narrowed considerably, at least at the top tier of Division III.
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Two of the DIII poles would have likely started on his Ivy team, or second LSM, etc most of the years he played. That summer team was stacked at X with Bones Kelly and yet 2 guys from Stevenson sure seemed nearly as good...let's just say his college team would have won a bunch of games they lost narrowly with either one of them.
Sure, not all of the DIII as good, but then not all the D1 guys were as good as Ryan Conrad or Deemer Class on that team either!
Fun to watch those guys enjoy themselves.
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Thanks for the post!MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:43 pmMy son played summer ball with a mix of primarily high end D1, numerous AA's, and a few guys from Salisbury and Stevenson. One from Tufts. One from Middlebury.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:29 pmI have watched Division III games from time to time.MVPiccoli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:45 pmScrimmages being what they are, a chance to install, evaluate, and get some runs against another jersey, I won't belabor outcomes. But man, there are some grown ass players walking around in D3. They just fell out of the D1 picture for the situations Kramerica stated, and other less savory reasons.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:36 pm100%. If you're hating on D3, you've never really watched D3.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:03 pmMax Waldbaum scored 46 points at Tufts his senior year before transferring to Jacksonville and dropping 72 points(4G/2A vs Duke).. was an AA that year as well. Sure it’s easier to score more points in D3 than it is in D1, but scoring 290 points in 2 years at any level is ridiculous.lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
My point was that really good D3 players can play at any level. You can see it first hand the past few years:
- Kevin Rogers (3rd team AA for HPU)
- Ronan Jacoby (HM AA at Rutgers)
- Cross Ferrera (Starter in PLL)
- Max Wayne (started his first game in PLL last week)
- Luke Keating (61 points at Villanova during 5th year)
- Tyler Gallagher (Started at OSU)
I can keep going..
There are some very good teams/individual players in that Top 30 range.
Due to Title9 and football, the growth of the men's D1 college game simply hasn't matched the growth of the boy's HS game so lots of great players don't get seen, are late bloomers, or don't initially choose the D1 path.
I'd add- didn't UVA also get a transfer defenseman from Lynchburg a few years back who turned out pretty good for them too?
While at Cabrini, we scrimmaged 'Nova. They were a borderline top 20 at the time, we were a lower level top 20 D3 squad. Starters on starters, we were fine. Really, I mean, it didn't feel any different other than having that LSM from Colorado hack the out of us. But once the subbing started. Ugh. Gross. I think it's mostly pure roster depth, which is natural for obvious reasons. The bottom 3/4's of the division are not going to have more than maybe one or two kids that could even get a sniff at a D1 roster spot though, that's true enough.
In the covid shortened year, 2020, Cabrini scrimmaged UPenn in the preseason, again best on best. You're welcome to ask anyone on the UPenn roster about the score/experience.
Bottom line, there is talent at all levels like never before.
The stick skills are on par with much of Division I, but seemed to me the biggest difference was in athleticism. Division III players just seemed, on average, smaller with less speed. I think the gap has narrowed considerably, at least at the top tier of Division III.
DocBarrister
Two of the DIII poles would have likely started on his Ivy team, or second LSM, etc most of the years he played. That summer team was stacked at X with Bones Kelly and yet 2 guys from Stevenson sure seemed nearly as good...let's just say his college team would have won a bunch of games they lost narrowly with either one of them.
Sure, not all of the DIII as good, but then not all the D1 guys were as good as Ryan Conrad or Deemer Class on that team either!
Fun to watch those guys enjoy themselves.
Not surprised there are stellar lax players in Division III. Plenty of reasons to play lax at schools like Tufts, Salisbury, and Amherst.
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I am sure there is some great talent in D3, Boyden had 7 games with double figure points, O'Neil D1 O games with 10 or more.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:51 pmLaughed out loud on that one...Atticus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:01 pmHaha. That’s an impressive middle school crew, BigDawg. You must be a great coach as well.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:44 amThe middle school kids I coach would beat most top 25 d3 programs… horrible lacrosse gets played at d3 they just don’t wanna admit itlorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
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Re: UVA 2024
Yes, Boyden's #'s are really, really gaudy. So are his line mate's Mac Bredahl.lorin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:50 amI am sure there is some great talent in D3, Boyden had 7 games with double figure points, O'Neil D1 O games with 10 or more.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:51 pmLaughed out loud on that one...Atticus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:01 pmHaha. That’s an impressive middle school crew, BigDawg. You must be a great coach as well.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:44 amThe middle school kids I coach would beat most top 25 d3 programs… horrible lacrosse gets played at d3 they just don’t wanna admit itlorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
I very much doubt that anyone is expecting the same gaudy production against ACC etc competition, but the young man can clearly excel, so I'm reasonably confident that there isn't a D1 program today who wouldn't love to have him join them. He needn't be the #1 or #2 or even #3...to be very, very valuable. And for many programs he'd be the alpha QB for sure.
Hopefully he'll get a great academic opportunity and have fun being in Charlottesville.
Re: UVA 2024
Well said again I am sure he is a great player, my beef is with the guys that keep pumping the stats its stupid.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:34 amYes, Boyden's #'s are really, really gaudy. So are his line mate's Mac Bredahl.lorin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:50 amI am sure there is some great talent in D3, Boyden had 7 games with double figure points, O'Neil D1 O games with 10 or more.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:51 pmLaughed out loud on that one...Atticus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:01 pmHaha. That’s an impressive middle school crew, BigDawg. You must be a great coach as well.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:44 amThe middle school kids I coach would beat most top 25 d3 programs… horrible lacrosse gets played at d3 they just don’t wanna admit itlorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
I very much doubt that anyone is expecting the same gaudy production against ACC etc competition, but the young man can clearly excel, so I'm reasonably confident that there isn't a D1 program today who wouldn't love to have him join them. He needn't be the #1 or #2 or even #3...to be very, very valuable. And for many programs he'd be the alpha QB for sure.
Hopefully he'll get a great academic opportunity and have fun being in Charlottesville.
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Re: UVA 2024
mmm, could it have been in reaction to..."All those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAO" ?lorin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:24 pmWell said again I am sure he is a great player, my beef is with the guys that keep pumping the stats its stupid.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:34 amYes, Boyden's #'s are really, really gaudy. So are his line mate's Mac Bredahl.lorin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:50 amI am sure there is some great talent in D3, Boyden had 7 games with double figure points, O'Neil D1 O games with 10 or more.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:51 pmLaughed out loud on that one...Atticus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:01 pmHaha. That’s an impressive middle school crew, BigDawg. You must be a great coach as well.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:44 amThe middle school kids I coach would beat most top 25 d3 programs… horrible lacrosse gets played at d3 they just don’t wanna admit itlorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:26 amPlease D3 stats are a joke.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:02 amNot sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:54 amAll those 5 stars and you still need recruit from D3 school, LMAOGorilla Fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:54 pm D3 Player of the year Jack Boyden from Tufts transferring in: https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/16 ... _jxZLgpS5g
I very much doubt that anyone is expecting the same gaudy production against ACC etc competition, but the young man can clearly excel, so I'm reasonably confident that there isn't a D1 program today who wouldn't love to have him join them. He needn't be the #1 or #2 or even #3...to be very, very valuable. And for many programs he'd be the alpha QB for sure.
Hopefully he'll get a great academic opportunity and have fun being in Charlottesville.
That was your reaction to the simple link of the announcement.
Which only generated this: "Not sure if this is a jab at D3, but considering how well some D3 guys over the last few years have been doing in D1 and the PLL, why would you not take a chance on the D3 POY who put up 290 in the past 2 years??"
Which generated this: "Please D3 stats are a joke."
Let's just say that you were a mite aggressive on that approach?
Pretty sure any D1 team would have welcomed his interest, right?