Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:18 pm
At least Al Gore isn’t making any money off the hoax:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/20/weather/ ... index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/20/weather/ ... index.html
A lot of assumptions in the engineering of the built infra are going to turn out to have been “bad” bets.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:18 pm At least Al Gore isn’t making any money off the hoax:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/20/weather/ ... index.html
In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:04 amIt first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.
I cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:35 pmIn all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:04 amIt first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.
We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.
“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.
That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution
Suit yourself. I tried.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:50 pmI cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:35 pmIn all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:04 amIt first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.
We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.
“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.
That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution
Tried what?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:57 pmSuit yourself. I tried.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:50 pmI cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:35 pmIn all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:04 amIt first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.
We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.
“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.
That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution
Ever eaten in a restaurant, PizzaSnake? They're not usin' electric ranges, my man. And they're not using ONE range.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 5:05 pmTried what?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:57 pmSuit yourself. I tried.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:50 pmI cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:35 pmIn all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:04 amIt first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.
We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.
“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.
That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution
Joe
Like I said...those vent fans ROCK...a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 5:43 pmEver eaten in a restaurant, PizzaSnake? They're not usin' electric ranges, my man. And they're not using ONE range.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 5:05 pmTried what?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:57 pmSuit yourself. I tried.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:50 pmI cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:35 pmIn all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:04 amIt first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.
We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.
“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.
That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution
Joe
Hoods with fans pulling upward are in both commercial and home kitchens for a reason.
““Ventilation does help but it’s an imperfect solution and ultimately the best way is to reduce pollution at the source.”a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 5:43 pmEver eaten in a restaurant, PizzaSnake? They're not usin' electric ranges, my man. And they're not using ONE range.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 5:05 pmTried what?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:57 pmSuit yourself. I tried.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:50 pmI cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:35 pmIn all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:04 amIt first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.
We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.
“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.
That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution
Joe
Hoods with fans pulling upward are in both commercial and home kitchens for a reason.
Speaking as someone who deals with OSHA regulations....you can tell that they were written by factory owners. Some of the tolerances for things like C02 are batsh*t crazy high....there's NO WAY I'd let my crew work near fermenters with 4900 ppm in the area for 8 hours. Our in house cap is 3,000 at any time. Grateful for libs in the vast majority, but not all, regulatory controls. Sometimes they do more harm than good. Sometimes.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:07 pm Unfortunately tons of homes don't have a vent these days. Just the idiotic microwave over the stove that blows grease all over the ceiling. That doesn't filter out a lot of the stuff from our gas stove. It's cheaper to build kitchens without a vent.
We have to cook with a door open and a fan on if we want actual ventilation. Adding a vent from our stove to the outside is pretty much impossible with our kitchen setup. We'd be looking at at a 20-30' run with two to three elbows. That's if there was even space without taking out structural elements.
Personally I blame those idiot libs for taking lead out of our gasoline and paint, and cocaine out of our Coca Cola, lithium out of our 7-Up, and all those pesky FDA regulations. Consumers should have the choice of whether they want to use stuff that's bad for them and their kids and the people around them.
Sigh. I guess I'm glad for you that you can laugh at it. They must not be reading about the temperatures all over the world, and the rise of the sea and intrusion of higher water tables in the American South.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 8:23 pm Ages 18-34 are getting tired of the BS, same for the demo up to 55. After that....get off my lawn dumb asses.
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_050624/
It's truly funny. You get run out of the arena for bringing forth an opposing viewpoint.
... data points have an error margin of +/- 4.1%. I doubt your explanation (tired of BS) has anything to do with the changes. For the first time a president has taken serious action (or is perceived to have) vis a vis programs to address CC. This would be factored in by the respondents.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 8:23 pm Ages 18-34 are getting tired of the BS, same for the demo up to 55. After that....get off my lawn dumb asses.
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_050624/
So Joe has saved the planet? You still using that doctorate as a door stop? If the world needs Joe to save the planet I can only repeat the words that BHO will never admit to saying. " Never underestimate Joe Bidens ability to eff things up"jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 2:39 am... data points have an error margin of +/- 4.1%. I doubt your explanation (tired of BS) has anything to do with the changes. For the first time a president has taken serious action (or is perceived to have) vis a vis programs to address CC. This would be factored in by the respondents.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 8:23 pm Ages 18-34 are getting tired of the BS, same for the demo up to 55. After that....get off my lawn dumb asses.
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_050624/
Don't get your hopes up.