D3 Men Rankings

[ctbagataway]

ODAC--I'm not going to argue your first point, but on your second I have to disagree. If you were at either the York or Denison games, I don't think you would have seen much in the way of luck involved. Yes, they lost both games, so nobody is celebrating that, and I don't think you earn a top 20 spot by losing games, even if they were by a goal each. But if you look at the stats from both games, they were very even. York outshot W&L 38-31, W&L outshot Denison 39-32. W&L had more saves than York (16 vs. 10), but Denison had one more save than W&L (10 vs. 9). W&L won the GB battle in both games, although the numbers were close, and turnovers were pretty even in both games. The York game was a classic battle, could have gone either way. Against Denison, W&L dug themselves into a hole, but dug deep and fought back in the second half. That wasn't luck. That was momentum. Just not enough of it.

[DeepPocket]

The reality is the sports popularity, and it’s parity have increased. Anyone can make a case for any team that’s reasonably with in the upper echelon. I’m a York fan, I went to York, and I played at York. None of that makes York a top 20, top 10, or final four capable team. As much as I like the team, and their potential, they have to win games (especially when it counts) to get there. There may come a time (ala college football) where undefeated teams will not have opportunities, based solely on their strength of schedule. It’s just reality. Nobody in their right mind thinks that W&L is a bad team. But the fan base making a case for a sub .500 team is not realistic either. They will need to win the Conference at this point IMHO.

[Dehuntshigwa’es]

On target DP, I stated prior to the game a loss to F&M would probably require them to win the ODAC especially with Roanoke down this year. A Gburg win would maybe tip the scales if they beat Lburg inthe regular season and lost in a conf title. Bottom line is they better win the AQ or they may be in trouble. Hoping AJ doesn’t comeback unless he’s 100% for ODAC playoffs

[RetiredCardinal]

Inside Lacrosse Media Poll released 3/6/19

1. Salisbury (5 - 0)
2. Wesleyan (1 - 0)
3. RIT (3 - 0)
4. Tufts (2 - 0)
5. Amherst (2 - 0)
6. York (4 - 0)
7. Cabrini (4 - 0)
8. Gettysburg (3 - 1)
9. Stevens (3 - 0)
10. Dickinson (3 - 1)
11. Ursinus (4 - 0)
12. Denison (2 - 1)
13. Ithaca (2 - 0)
14. Franklin and Marshall (3 - 1)
15. Christopher Newport (3 - 2)
16. Washington and Lee (2 - 3)
17. RPI (3 - 0)
18. Bates (2 - 1)
19. Lynchburg (1 - 3)
20. Cortland (0 - 2)

A lot of interesting games on tap tonight that could shake this up again this time next week!

[Nothinbutthelax]

Nice win by NOKE over Stevens.
York over G-Burg holding them to 6 and hung 14...
Both should fall outside 15..

[ctbagataway]

Agreed. Roanoke woke up but looks like Stevens got a bit exposed.

[pucksandbones]

Nice win by NOKE over Stevens.
York over G-Burg holding them to 6 and hung 14...
Both should fall outside 15..

Would not expect Gburg to drop outside of 15, Cabrini beat Dickinson by a similar score and both basically didn't move. Drop a few spots at most.

[viper]

Agreed. Roanoke woke up but looks like Stevens got a bit exposed.

Stevens may have been "exposed" as you say, but stat line also indicates that they ran into a very hot keeper as Ian Davies put up 22 saves against the 10 he let in. Biggest concern offensively was the lack of assisted goals (only 2 out of 10).

Tough loss with a big matchup against Tufts just ahead.

[ctbagataway]

Viper--I agree, I posted that before I saw the stats. But Stevens hadn't played any good teams yet and it looks like they caught Roanoke on the wrong day. But that #9 ranking looks a bit harder to justify now.

[viper]

Viper--I agree, I posted that before I saw the stats. But Stevens hadn't played any good teams yet and it looks like they caught Roanoke on the wrong day. But that #9 ranking looks a bit harder to justify now.

Stevens may be able to salvage ranking with a good turnout against Tufts this weekend. Having said that, as seasons ebb and flow, the only real ranking that matters is the one at the end of the season.

[Nothing But Net]

I agree with that last statement..., there are several team that are currently not ranked in the Top 20 that should be in the discussion(i.e. Williams). And while I cant see every team, I jump around youtube and other sights to get abbreviated version on the games..., there are a few on this list that that I would question. IMHO, I would bet that most of the Teams in the NESCAC would fair pretty good against this Top 20.....

While I like to think that I am a fair and objective person....but like all Fan's, my views are going to be bias.

[DeepPocket]

New Nike/USL out-

1 Salisbury 6-0 2 3/15 vs. Illinois Wesleyan
2 Amherst 3-0 3 3/15 vs. No. 15 Franklin & Marshall
3 Tufts 4-0 4 3/12 vs. Endicott
4 RIT 4-0 5 3/15 vs. No. 5 York
5 York 6-0 6 3/15 vs. No. 4 RIT
6 Cabrini 6-0 7 3/13 vs. Ohio Wesleyan
7 Bates 3-1 NR 3/12 vs. Western New England
8 Wesleyan 2-1 1 3/13 vs. Clark
9 Dickinson 4-1 9 3/15 vs. No. 12 Denison
10 Gettysburg 4-2 8 3/13 vs. No. 14 Washington and Lee
11 Ursinus 4-0 10 3/13 vs. Eastern
12 Denison 3-1 12 3/15 vs. No. 9 Dickinson
13 Christopher Newport 4-2 13 3/13 vs. Washington College
14 Washington and Lee 4-3 15 3/13 at No. 10 Gettysburg
15 Franklin & Marshall 4-1 16 3/15 vs. No. 2 Amherst
16 Stevens 3-2 11 3/13 at Widener
17 Lynchburg 3-3 17 3/15 at No. 19 Stevenson
18 RPI 4-0 19 3/13 vs. Plattsburgh State
19 Stevenson 1-3 18 3/15 vs. No. 17 Lynchburg
20 Ithaca

[DeepPocket]

Nw USILA-

1 Salisbury (17) 359 6-0 2
2 RIT 334 4-0 3
3 Tufts 310 4-0 4
4 Amherst 295 3-0 5
5 York 285 6-0 6
6 Cabrini (1) 284 5-0 7
7 Wesleyan 246 2-1 1
8 Dickinson 212 4-1 10
9 Ursinus 207 5-0 12
10 Denison 179 3-1 11
11 Gettysburg 178 4-2 8
12 Stevens 160 3-2 9
13 Bates 132 3-1 19
14 Franklin and Marshall 122 4-1 15
15 Christopher Newport 104 4-2 16
16 Washington and Lee 103 4-3 14
17 RPI 65 4-0 18
18 Ithaca 56 2-1 13
19 Lynchburg 55 3-3 17
20 Stevenson 22 1-3 19

[richard]

A slightly different perspective'
1-Salisbury-beat Stevenson handily
2-RIT
3-York
4-Cabrini
5-Amherst- when they play Tufts final score 46-45
6-Tufts- ditto vs Lord Jeffs
7-Ursinus-Centennial play will be interesting
8-Wesleyan- NESCAC loss to Bates. Eating their young
9-Denison- Stevenson loss still bugs me
10-Dickinson
11-RPI
12-F&M
13-Lynchburg-I really like their defense when they get aggressive. #3 is very good.
14-Bates
15-SLU-Where is Conner Caffrey?
16-W&L-Crushed Mary Washington.Looked very comfortable on offense
17-Union- Crushed a good Springfield
18-Gettysburg-Does not look up to snuff vs top teams. Need to get it together or W&L will take them to the woodshed.
19-CNU- inconsistent
20-Cortland-Wesleyan will be next test
21-Ithaca-Cabrini is not a run of the mill good team.
22-Fisher
23-Stevens- Probably better than this.Can't loose to a down Noke, although it was as good as a home game for Noke and I'm sure they were motivated.
24-Stevenson-based on strength of schedule. By next Wednesday they could have 3 more losses. But that Denison game is still there.
25-Stockton-I like those longshots.

[Boomakegga]

Wonder who keeps giving Cabrini a “1”? Really doubt it’s colfer. They have lost two AA’s at attack to season (career?) ending injuries in the first three games. Bench seems stronger than one would expect, but they are not the team that started the season with so much hope and expectation.

[pcowlax]

Agree, not though necessarily their fault with injuries but I see Cabrini as maybe a top 15 team, Amherst or Tufts would beat them I think pretty handily and many of the teams below them here would have a good shot. I don’t know enough about Ursinus but I would be surprised if they don’t fall.

[palaxoff]

Agree, not though necessarily their fault with injuries but I see Cabrini as maybe a top 15 team, Amherst or Tufts would beat them I think pretty handily and many of the teams below them here would have a good shot. I don’t know enough about Ursinus but I would be surprised if they don’t fall.

Coming to Cabrini's defense:
They have lost a few players but have still won by significant numbers against #9, #15 and #13 without them. So not really sure how you think they are a 15. It appears they are solid at Goalie, defense and have a good Fogo and are handling the ball well on O. Like to see a Tufts Cabrini game. I'll pass on Amherst, they need to beat some ranked teams, instead of squeaking by against some teams bubble teams outside the Top 20.

All teams have to play with injuries,its how you step up that matters.

[Nothinbutthelax]

Krug is POY if they go deep. He is a difference maker and has improving support on O. Handling Dickinson by 6 sealed them as for real. 12 points win over over ranked Ithaca make bobble heads nod..
LYN had chance but lost by 3. Only team close. They will best OWU by 10. YORK is the real test.

[ctbagataway]

I took that Cabrini comment as "I really don't know anything about them so they can't be good". They are legit. Check out their schedule and the results so far. 5-0 and they haven't played cream puffs (other than their opener). There is good lacrosse being played all over the place now. Not just at the traditional powerhouses.

[remote]

Cabrini is the real deal. I may actually consider them to be a top 3-4 team. Time will tell, but they have won big games and have dominated opponents. They may not be my top 1 but they are closer to 1 than they are 10