North Carolina 2023

[wgdsr]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

I know they didn’t have great personnel on D or at the face off X. But Petro’s Syracuse defense gave up 17.4 goals per game against ACC opponents the last 2 years.

And it would hav been worse if Marks didn’t stand on his head.

2022
UVA- 20
Duke- 10
ND- 22
UNC- 14
UVA- 21
ND- 18

Total- 105

2023
UNC- 19
Duke- 14
ND- 20
UNC- 14
UVA- 19
Duke- 18

Total- 104

as long as we're cherry picking, he had 89 saves while giving up those 104 goals. i've rarely considered that standing on your head.

[coda]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

I know they didn’t have great personnel on D or at the face off X. But Petro’s Syracuse defense gave up 17.4 goals per game against ACC opponents the last 2 years.

And it would hav been worse if Marks didn’t stand on his head.

2022
UVA- 20
Duke- 10
ND- 22
UNC- 14
UVA- 21
ND- 18

Total- 105

2023
UNC- 19
Duke- 14
ND- 20
UNC- 14
UVA- 19
Duke- 18

Total- 104

as long as we're cherry picking, he had 89 saves while giving up those 104 goals. i've rarely considered that standing on your head.

You really can’t talk about the Cuse defense without mentioning possessions. They struggled all year at the X. They finished the year at 42%. Means they played a lot of defense. I’m think they went like 30% on Faceoffs vs Duke and lost in OT. Unfortunately, you can not find time of possession stats in lacrosse, but I would guess Cuse was on the short end

[OCanada]

When he arrived they did not have a slide package that was thought to be adequate. Defense had been a problem for awhile. Possession deficits. Injured key players.

[NNELax]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

they were #20 in def efficiency last year with one and then 2 starters out @ close. so last year.

They were not a good defense....#20 is a gift with some stat padding against weaker teams...HC, Albany, Hofstra, St. Bonaventure, Hobart...come on

[wgdsr]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

they were #20 in def efficiency last year with one and then 2 starters out @ close. so last year.

They were not a good defense....#20 is a gift with some stat padding against weaker teams...HC, Albany, Hofstra, St. Bonaventure, Hobart...come on

i believe their sos was in the top 3. you asked. you can frame it however you want.

[a fan]

Any word on where Metzbower is headed?

[Powellfan22]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

they were #20 in def efficiency last year with one and then 2 starters out @ close. so last year.

They were not a good defense....#20 is a gift with some stat padding against weaker teams...HC, Albany, Hofstra, St. Bonaventure, Hobart...come on

FWIW UNC ranked #2 in the same category. Strange to move a coach who helped produce that ranking for one who isn’t in the top 10. Not sure if it’s a flawed statistic or not.

Lacrosse Reference ranked UNC #10 in defensive efficiency and Syracuse 39th. That seems to match the eye ball test a bit better. Still makes the decision for UNC to bring Petro in a strange one.

[AreaLax]

Any word on where Metzbower is headed?

Rumor is he talking to Denver

[runrussellrun]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

they were #20 in def efficiency last year with one and then 2 starters out @ close. so last year.

They were not a good defense....#20 is a gift with some stat padding against weaker teams...HC, Albany, Hofstra, St. Bonaventure, Hobart...come on

i believe their sos was in the top 3. you asked. you can frame it however you want.

[jrn19]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

I know they didn’t have great personnel on D or at the face off X. But Petro’s Syracuse defense gave up 17.4 goals per game against ACC opponents the last 2 years.

And it would hav been worse if Marks didn’t stand on his head.

2022
UVA- 20
Duke- 10
ND- 22
UNC- 14
UVA- 21
ND- 18

Total- 105

2023
UNC- 19
Duke- 14
ND- 20
UNC- 14
UVA- 19
Duke- 18

Total- 104

as long as we're cherry picking, he had 89 saves while giving up those 104 goals. i've rarely considered that standing on your head.

You really can’t talk about the Cuse defense without mentioning possessions. They struggled all year at the X. They finished the year at 42%. Means they played a lot of defense. I’m think they went like 30% on Faceoffs vs Duke and lost in OT. Unfortunately, you can not find time of possession stats in lacrosse, but I would guess Cuse was on the short end

defensive efficiency accounts for possessions. It’s literally goals divided by possessions. Adjusted then adjusts for your SOS.

[coda]

Petro is a tremendous asset and will be missed . Are his D schemes too complex ? Perhaps but he was the one who motivated, planned and recruited for Cuse while the wooden soldier acted the part of HC.

I'm being serious when I ask when was the last time he put together a good product on the defensive end?

I know they didn’t have great personnel on D or at the face off X. But Petro’s Syracuse defense gave up 17.4 goals per game against ACC opponents the last 2 years.

And it would hav been worse if Marks didn’t stand on his head.

2022
UVA- 20
Duke- 10
ND- 22
UNC- 14
UVA- 21
ND- 18

Total- 105

2023
UNC- 19
Duke- 14
ND- 20
UNC- 14
UVA- 19
Duke- 18

Total- 104

as long as we're cherry picking, he had 89 saves while giving up those 104 goals. i've rarely considered that standing on your head.

You really can’t talk about the Cuse defense without mentioning possessions. They struggled all year at the X. They finished the year at 42%. Means they played a lot of defense. I’m think they went like 30% on Faceoffs vs Duke and lost in OT. Unfortunately, you can not find time of possession stats in lacrosse, but I would guess Cuse was on the short end

defensive efficiency accounts for possessions. It’s literally goals divided by possessions. Adjusted then adjusts for your SOS.

I understant that, but citing the goals against doesnt

[10 10 2]

FWIW UNC ranked #2 in the same category. Strange to move a coach who helped produce that ranking for one who isn’t in the top 10. Not sure if it’s a flawed statistic or not.

Lacrosse Reference ranked UNC #10 in defensive efficiency and Syracuse 39th. That seems to match the eye ball test a bit better. Still makes the decision for UNC to bring Petro in a strange one.

This is the worst part of this whole thing. Unterstein was doing a good job and Breschi rewards him by bringing in his friend who wants to coach his kids to take his place. Sure that friend is a HOF lacrosse coach but it still has to sting. Maybe he's happy to be in charge of the specialists, but I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if KU is very interested in the open Defensive Coordinator position at Syracuse.

[jrn19]

Unterstein's career path is kinda fascinating. He had a tremendous track record at Hofstra, they were routinely Top 10 in scoring defense, felt like going to UNC would put him right in line for a HC job, and while UNC's defenses haven't been elite under him, he's done a pretty good job, and not only did he never get a HC job, now he's basically been demoted. You'd still figure if Tierney ever is let go or retires at Hofstra he's next up, but definitely wonder if he looks to get out soon and be a DC again

[coda]

Unterstein's career path is kinda fascinating. He had a tremendous track record at Hofstra, they were routinely Top 10 in scoring defense, felt like going to UNC would put him right in line for a HC job, and while UNC's defenses haven't been elite under him, he's done a pretty good job, and not only did he never get a HC job, now he's basically been demoted. You'd still figure if Tierney ever is let go or retires at Hofstra he's next up, but definitely wonder if he looks to get out soon and be a DC again

Isnt he responsible for the ride? That is pretty much the engine of UNC.

[blue angels]

Unterstein's career path is kinda fascinating. He had a tremendous track record at Hofstra, they were routinely Top 10 in scoring defense, felt like going to UNC would put him right in line for a HC job, and while UNC's defenses haven't been elite under him, he's done a pretty good job, and not only did he never get a HC job, now he's basically been demoted. You'd still figure if Tierney ever is let go or retires at Hofstra he's next up, but definitely wonder if he looks to get out soon and be a DC again

Isnt he responsible for the ride? That is pretty much the engine of UNC.

Well it didn’t take long for Metzbower to land on his feet at a good destination in Denver. Perhaps, others in the D1 Coaching world hold him in much higher regard than UNC. Maybe, he wasn’t the problem.

[OCanada]

Maybe he was always going to end there.

[jrn19]

The way things have played out, seems like it's not an unfair assessment that Breschi had to offer up his assistants to save his own neck

[DocBarrister]

The way things have played out, seems like it's not an unfair assessment that Breschi had to offer up his assistants to save his own neck

The ol’ Coach Brian Kelly play at Notre Dame. Kelly fired many of his cronies (who were, and are, good coaches) and the change produced good results for ND football. Went from an ugly losing record to a couple of CFP appearances. Kelly then leveraged the success and left for LSU and a big pay bump.

We’ll see how things go for Coach Breschi and his new team.

DocBarrister

[LaxAllStars]

UNC Tar Heel alum Marcus Holman

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[gunnerz]

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