Same Party, Different House
https://fanlax.com/forum/
And at the end of the day he wants to blame Trump for his fugg up thinking that nobody is paying attention.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:00 am SW Border Encounters (by FY) from US CBP
Trump
2017 -- 303.916
2018 -- 396,579
2019 -- 851,508
2020 -- 400.651
Biden
2021 -- 1,734,686
2022 -- 2,378,994
2023 -- 2,475,669
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/03/ ... erm=second
The border, however, is even more damning. Biden took a situation that was under control, blew it up, refused to readjust when the consequences became obvious, insisted that the crisis wasn’t a crisis as it began to be felt all over the country, and engaged in implausible blame-shifting — all because he was beholden to a new, radical ideology hostile to borders as such.
This wasn’t moderate, competent — or normal.
why fight? Pass the darn bill, the most conservative policy set and largest increase in funding in decades. Get those 100 new machines to detect fentanyl....now.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Rather than fighting with me over the argument.
Well....you and your friends around here keep telling us its no big deal, and the drugs are coming from other places or even through legal POE. Maybe you can send a letter to Biden and tell him that he is also wrong....and why you are correct.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:55 amwhy fight? Pass the darn bill, the most conservative policy set and largest increase in funding in decades. Get those 100 new machines to detect fentanyl....now.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Rather than fighting with me over the argument.
The GOP should do so and declare victory, but they're too stupid, too cowardly, bowing and scraping to Trump....w ho is too stupid and venal to figure out the mess he puts them and the country in.
Want to pass another bill after that, make the case, earn the votes.
Nope, we've said that securing the border and all ports of entry is highly important re fentanyl...it's just not the asylum seekers who are the problem. Sorry if that's too nuanced for you. Most is coming through legal ports of entry and carried by American transport...we need technology to address this much better, faster, so that clean loads get through quickly, dirty get caught...and that's what was in the bill MAGA balked at getting done.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:48 pmWell....you and your friends around here keep telling us its no big deal, and the drugs are coming from other places or even through legal POE. Maybe you can send a letter to Biden and tell him that he is also wrong....and why you are correct.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:55 amwhy fight? Pass the darn bill, the most conservative policy set and largest increase in funding in decades. Get those 100 new machines to detect fentanyl....now.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Rather than fighting with me over the argument.
The GOP should do so and declare victory, but they're too stupid, too cowardly, bowing and scraping to Trump....w ho is too stupid and venal to figure out the mess he puts them and the country in.
Want to pass another bill after that, make the case, earn the votes.
The issue is more valuable to some than any solution.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pmNope, we've said that securing the border and all ports of entry is highly important re fentanyl...it's just not the asylum seekers who are the problem. Sorry if that's too nuanced for you. Most is coming through legal ports of entry and carried by American transport...we need technology to address this much better, faster, so that clean loads get through quickly, dirty get caught...and that's what was in the bill MAGA balked at getting done.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:48 pmWell....you and your friends around here keep telling us its no big deal, and the drugs are coming from other places or even through legal POE. Maybe you can send a letter to Biden and tell him that he is also wrong....and why you are correct.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:55 amwhy fight? Pass the darn bill, the most conservative policy set and largest increase in funding in decades. Get those 100 new machines to detect fentanyl....now.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Rather than fighting with me over the argument.
The GOP should do so and declare victory, but they're too stupid, too cowardly, bowing and scraping to Trump....w ho is too stupid and venal to figure out the mess he puts them and the country in.
Want to pass another bill after that, make the case, earn the votes.
Stop whining MAGA and contribute to solutions. Lankford did...
You crack me up.....first admit you have been preaching how wrong we all were, then after Biden says what we have been saying last night, your tune changes; how convenient of you to pivot without acknowledging your mistake. It's okay to admit you overplayed your hand or you could say Biden was wrong.....which one is it?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pmNope, we've said that securing the border and all ports of entry is highly important re fentanyl...it's just not the asylum seekers who are the problem. Sorry if that's too nuanced for you. Most is coming through legal ports of entry and carried by American transport...we need technology to address this much better, faster, so that clean loads get through quickly, dirty get caught...and that's what was in the bill MAGA balked at getting done.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:48 pmWell....you and your friends around here keep telling us its no big deal, and the drugs are coming from other places or even through legal POE. Maybe you can send a letter to Biden and tell him that he is also wrong....and why you are correct.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:55 amwhy fight? Pass the darn bill, the most conservative policy set and largest increase in funding in decades. Get those 100 new machines to detect fentanyl....now.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Rather than fighting with me over the argument.
The GOP should do so and declare victory, but they're too stupid, too cowardly, bowing and scraping to Trump....w ho is too stupid and venal to figure out the mess he puts them and the country in.
Want to pass another bill after that, make the case, earn the votes.
Stop whining MAGA and contribute to solutions. Lankford did...
As is always the case. You can't run for reelection on a problem that has been solved. You can run for reelection promising to fix whatever is broken. That promise of course does not actually obligate you to fix anything.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:00 pmThe issue is more valuable to some than any solution.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pmNope, we've said that securing the border and all ports of entry is highly important re fentanyl...it's just not the asylum seekers who are the problem. Sorry if that's too nuanced for you. Most is coming through legal ports of entry and carried by American transport...we need technology to address this much better, faster, so that clean loads get through quickly, dirty get caught...and that's what was in the bill MAGA balked at getting done.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:48 pmWell....you and your friends around here keep telling us its no big deal, and the drugs are coming from other places or even through legal POE. Maybe you can send a letter to Biden and tell him that he is also wrong....and why you are correct.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:55 amwhy fight? Pass the darn bill, the most conservative policy set and largest increase in funding in decades. Get those 100 new machines to detect fentanyl....now.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Rather than fighting with me over the argument.
The GOP should do so and declare victory, but they're too stupid, too cowardly, bowing and scraping to Trump....w ho is too stupid and venal to figure out the mess he puts them and the country in.
Want to pass another bill after that, make the case, earn the votes.
Stop whining MAGA and contribute to solutions. Lankford did...
Show me where I EVER said fentanyl was not a serious issue.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:03 pmYou crack me up.....first admit you have been preaching how wrong we all were, then after Biden says what we have been saying last night, your tune changes; how convenient of you to pivot without acknowledging your mistake. It's okay to admit you overplayed your hand or you could say Biden was wrong.....which one is it?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pmNope, we've said that securing the border and all ports of entry is highly important re fentanyl...it's just not the asylum seekers who are the problem. Sorry if that's too nuanced for you. Most is coming through legal ports of entry and carried by American transport...we need technology to address this much better, faster, so that clean loads get through quickly, dirty get caught...and that's what was in the bill MAGA balked at getting done.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:48 pmWell....you and your friends around here keep telling us its no big deal, and the drugs are coming from other places or even through legal POE. Maybe you can send a letter to Biden and tell him that he is also wrong....and why you are correct.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:55 amwhy fight? Pass the darn bill, the most conservative policy set and largest increase in funding in decades. Get those 100 new machines to detect fentanyl....now.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Rather than fighting with me over the argument.
The GOP should do so and declare victory, but they're too stupid, too cowardly, bowing and scraping to Trump....w ho is too stupid and venal to figure out the mess he puts them and the country in.
Want to pass another bill after that, make the case, earn the votes.
Stop whining MAGA and contribute to solutions. Lankford did...
Where did he say this? Got a cite?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
Nobody seems to know how it is getting into our country. Maybe these drug cartel folks have a magic wand. They wave it and poof a skid of fentanyl winds up in a warehouse in Bayonne NJ. to be distributed to college students everywhere.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:25 pmWhere did he say this? Got a cite?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
And you realize your (and FoxNation's) assertion is specific: that it's coming over with migrants walking up from Venezuela.
One person at a time. THAT was the sales pitch.
Yeah, through the Darién Gap.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:25 pmWhere did he say this? Got a cite?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:30 pm Maybe the fan lax libs and mdlax will believe Biden, as he discusses all the Fentanyl coming across our border and wanting to combat it.
And you realize your (and FoxNation's) assertion is specific: that it's coming over with migrants walking up from Venezuela.
One person at a time. THAT was the sales pitch.
Maybe I should be on the Supreme Court.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:49 pmAppreciate that you 'understand' the crux of my recent conversation/questions. I have not blaming Joe or red vs blue what so ever in this discussion,. We all agree it has been with us for decades......so WHY? What is the dirty little secret 'they' keep from us all? There has to be something more than just political gamesmanship each election cycle for this really simple task to go unresolved for 40+years.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:46 amYA, I have tried to answer the question you originally posed: why would the DOJ try to keep Texas from implementing and enforcing SB4. I'll stick to my answer; fragmented, non-unitary enforcement is both unconstitutional and a recipe for disaster as the states roll out ragged, piecemeal methods of enforcement. The Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government have to together solve or manage the issues.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:05 amIS it really posturing or doing the right thing? I am really suprised to hear you say Texas and all border states need to just sit there quietly and take it up the ass b/c the Feds choose to make a states life a living hell. This letter, which also refers back to the Founders, makes it rather clear. https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/pre ... 4.2024.pdfMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:06 pmThe states simply don't have the authority to act as the federal government without the direction of the federal government. Period.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:50 pmSeacoaster....thank you for the explanation, what you say above makes sense, BUT, it is my understanding that Texas SB4 is in essence a mirror of what is already on the books and the responsibility of the Feds. Meaning, they (TX) are just doing the job on behalf of the Feds who are NOT holding up their legal portion and responsibility It's like the Feds are arguing with themselves just to buy time and accomplish whatever it is they are trying to do.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:26 amHope and trust the surgery went well, and that you are resting comfortably, YA.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:51 am Make it make sense. So now the Biden Admin is telling us, out loud, the want this to continue?
I am really doubtful I can make this make sense to you. But it makes sense. First, immigration policy is largely if not completely a federal issue, committed to the federal government under the Constitution. States rolling out their own regimes of criminal enforcement risks dividing the power by the number of states that share a border with a foreign nation. The Biden Administration is mostly saying here that Congress and the Executive Branch are committed by the Constitution to work together and cooperatively to create and impose policy on border and immigration matters.
Here is the Solicitor General's filing, asking the Court to stay enforcement of SB4:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ ... rected.pdf
The application for the stay (really, an order vacating the Fifth Circuit Order which of course lawlessly vacated the district court stay) required a showing that the Texas law was somehow legal or constitutionally infirm:
"On the merits, SB4 is both field and conflict preempted. This Court has long recognized that the regulation of entry and removal of noncitizens is inseparably intertwined with the conduct of foreign relations and thus vested “solely in the Federal Government.” Truax v. Raich, 239 U.S. 33, 42 (1915). In the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq., Congress has created a comprehensive regime governing the admission and removal of noncitizens. And because the federal government has fully occupied the field of entry and removal, even “complementary state regulation” is preempted. See Arizona, 567 U.S. at 401. Just as Arizona could not “add a state-law penalty” for failure to comply with the INA’s registration requirements, Texas may not impose state law criminal penalties for violations of federal entry and reentry provisions and may not implement state-law “decision[s] on removability.” Id. at 409. Those matters are committed to the National Government because, inter alia, they “touch on foreign relations.” Id. at 401, 409. Indeed, because entry and removal are so central to federal immigration authority, the preemptive force of federal law is even plainer in this case than it was in Arizona."
Alito granted the relief sought by the United States. So federal law preempts Texas law in this particular sphere. It's actually pretty clear and my guess is that Abbott and Paxton both understand this, but need to spend time performing their unlawful antics to a thirsty and less-informed audience.
The Constitution imposes duties on the national government, many of which are cooperative. This is part of why Red v. Blue intransigence -- and the total demonization of "working across the aisle" wrought by our current environment -- is killing the country.
It's just posturing for the cameras, all politics not policy, and certainly no respect for the rule of law.
And that's regardless of what one feels about the federal government, Congress, the Administration et al.
So my question back to you and Seacoaster.....WHY?
Why did this Admin 'intentionally' make matters worse AND at the same time continue to lie to gaslight the entire US as if they ARE doing something? What is it they are doing that they can not say out loud?
Is it for (potential blue) votes?
Is it for population growth, as we are in decline?
Is it for increased tax revenue?
Is it just another place for deficit spending to keep us from hitting a recession floor?
IS it all the above and they just can not say it our loud?
Your new questions are the ones I have tried to avoid, freighted as they are with election-intensified Blue v. Red politics. We know -- we observed with our own eyes -- the deal struck in the name of some kind of consensus, which was derailed by a candidate for office who needs the issue either boiling over, or needs a concession from Biden to reinstall the Trump-era immigration policies like Title 42 (which let federal officials rapidly expel unauthorized migrants to Mexico under the Covid-19 emergency) or the “Remain in Mexico” program (which required most asylum-seekers to wait out their cases in Mexico). These proved to be lawyer full employment policies, as they were attacked from every angle by lawyers working on migrant and migration issues. You know that Biden isn't going to do that without some concession to his administration. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, we seem to have gaslighting on this by everyone, irrespective of party.
Your last sentence is in tune with with me, like A440 perfectly.
jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:51 pm Federal judge rules in favor of gun ownership for undocumented immigrants.