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Re: Bourbon

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:33 pm
by a fan
HooDat wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:50 am
RedFromMI wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:44 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Great article!
Leopold Bros. have been stepping up their marketing game recently ;)

I have noticed a certain master distiller popping up on social media a lot recently....
:lol: Picked up on that, didya? Hired a proper professional that works with several distilleries.

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:02 am
by kramerica.inc
The face of the industry!
Love it!

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:23 am
by HooDat
a fan wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:33 pm
HooDat wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:50 am
RedFromMI wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:44 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Great article!
Leopold Bros. have been stepping up their marketing game recently ;)

I have noticed a certain master distiller popping up on social media a lot recently....
:lol: Picked up on that, didya? Hired a proper professional that works with several distilleries.
I can't pick up my phone without seeing you in your Carhartts! :lol:

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:30 pm
by a fan
HooDat wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:23 am
a fan wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:33 pm
HooDat wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:50 am
RedFromMI wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:44 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Great article!
Leopold Bros. have been stepping up their marketing game recently ;)

I have noticed a certain master distiller popping up on social media a lot recently....
:lol: Picked up on that, didya? Hired a proper professional that works with several distilleries.
I can't pick up my phone without seeing you in your Carhartts! :lol:
Yeesh....sorry about that!

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:18 am
by youthathletics
a fan wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:30 pm
HooDat wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:23 am
a fan wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:33 pm
HooDat wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:50 am
RedFromMI wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:44 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Great article!
Leopold Bros. have been stepping up their marketing game recently ;)

I have noticed a certain master distiller popping up on social media a lot recently....
:lol: Picked up on that, didya? Hired a proper professional that works with several distilleries.
I can't pick up my phone without seeing you in your Carhartts! :lol:
Yeesh....sorry about that!
Love them. As my grandfather taught me..."Never be ashamed of you work clothes".

BTW, I am in South Korea, just South of Seoul, the bourbon scene here is horrible...ripe for the picking. :D

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:43 pm
by runrussellrun
Serious inquiries only: pm

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:04 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:43 pm Serious inquiries only: pm

A recent cache of adult beverages has been stumbled upon. Regarding the hard stuff, any laws regarding "resale".

Were talking Pikesville, that was actually made in Maryland, kind of stuff. (old) Cases and cases of Pappy Van, various types, etc. etc.

Need help.
Check your pm

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:11 am
by DMac
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Congrats, a fan, pretty damn big deal!!!

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:00 am
by a fan
DMac wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:11 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Congrats, a fan, pretty damn big deal!!!
Thank you Dmac. It's one I'm proud of because it's from 2,000 of my fellow American distillers. A real nice honor.

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 9:39 pm
by get it to x
a fan wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:00 am
DMac wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:11 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Congrats, a fan, pretty damn big deal!!!
Thank you Dmac. It's one I'm proud of because it's from 2,000 of my fellow American distillers. A real nice honor.
Not sure how you pulled it off. I was always told beer then whiskey, very risky, whiskey then beer, never fear.

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:15 am
by youthathletics
Happy National Bourbon Day! https://nationaltoday.com/national-bourbon-day/

Cheers

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:58 pm
by youthathletics
Just saw “Rebel” bourbon sponsoring PLL during Archers / Whipsnakes game in Minnesota.

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:46 am
by youthathletics
Italian company acquires Sagamore Spirit, to move regional HQ to city

https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/n ... Hvir3mNfnk

The Italian multinational, known for its Disaronno liqueur, called the purchase a "once-in-a-generation opportunity" to expand its American portfolio through Baltimore.

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:47 pm
by ColumbiaBlueBlack
a fan wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:00 am
DMac wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:11 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am Congrats to Leopold Brothers: Starting on page 54:

https://issuu.com/artisanspiritmag/docs ... 042_web/54
Congrats, a fan, pretty damn big deal!!!
Thank you Dmac. It's one I'm proud of because it's from 2,000 of my fellow American distillers. A real nice honor.
Some of us remember a few years ago:

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:54 pm
by ColumbiaBlueBlack

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:07 pm
by youthathletics
Wonder if Afan has a pulse on this and its impact? https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/13/inve ... index.html

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:13 pm
by a fan
youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:07 pm Wonder if Afan has a pulse on this and its impact? https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/13/inve ... index.html
Yessir. It's a big, big deal for Big Bourbon. Enormous.

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:04 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Afan to Europe-f**k you guys I’m vacationing in Latin America going forward!

U.S. Whiskey Is ‘Collateral Damage’ in Trans-Atlantic Trade Fight

U.S. distillers stare down a 50% tax on shipments to Europe next year


In this case, tariffs erected to protect some U.S. industries swung back to hurt other homegrown small businesses. The bar fight over whiskey is just one example. EU tariffs retaliating against the U.S. also struck Harley-Davidson motorcycles, orange juice and Levi’s jeans. Like whiskey, those products remain on the EU’s list of suspended tariffs.

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“We’re just collateral damage,” Glover said.

U.S. and EU officials say they hope to reach a deal to avoid the 50% tariff by year’s end, likely by delaying its effective date. But there is no end in sight to the broader trade dispute, leaving the threat of tariffs hanging over the whiskey industry.

“That there’s a significant chance the tariffs could come back is really enough to deter you from wanting to make investments in these foreign markets,” said Jeff Quint, chief executive of Cedar Ridge Distillery in Iowa. “Nobody’s going to make a significant investment in teaching the world about bourbon until we know these tariffs have been eliminated.”

American whiskey makers were drawn into the trade fight in 2018 after former President Donald Trump imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum. He cited national security reasons, arguing that metals imports had eroded the country’s ability to make its own weapons, tanks, and aircraft. The EU responded with levies on a range of U.S. products, selected for their iconic status as U.S. exports and to apply pressure on politicians in Republican and swing states.

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Until the U.S. has permanently removed the steel and aluminum tariffs, “the EU cannot permanently end its countermeasures,” Olof Gill, a European Commission spokesman, said last week. “The EU and U.S. remain engaged in ongoing discussions to reach an agreement on permanently removing these tariffs.”

The EU initially set the whiskey tariff at 25%. It was suspended two years ago as part of a mutual agreement to put both the U.S. metals tariffs and EU retaliatory tariffs on hold until 2024. Unless an agreement is reached before then, the whiskey tariffs could be reimposed—this time doubled to 50%. President Biden met with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in late October, but that meeting wrapped up without an agreement.

The U.S. is now proposing a two-year extension of the current tariff reprieve, people familiar with the discussions said, which would keep both U.S. and EU tariffs on hold until the end of 2025. Both sides have said they want to avoid a replay of their earlier tariff fight.

“We will continue to work with the EU to find a solution that benefits our workers, stakeholders and businesses,” a spokesperson for the U.S. trade representative said.

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Prolonged uncertainty is a particular problem for whiskey distillers because their product has to age, forcing them to plan years out.

“We need to make the amount of whiskey now that we think we’re going to sell in four to five years,” said Sonat Birnecker Hart, president of Koval Distillery, based in Chicago. “You’re eating a lot of costs up front.”

Smaller craft distilleries said selling in the EU often requires a major investment for them. They have to travel overseas to trade shows and build relationships with distributors and pay for promotions like free tastings to help introduce their product to a new audience overseas. And just getting their whiskey across the Atlantic is complicated.

Amir Peay, owner of the James E. Pepper Distilling Co. in Lexington, Ky., said he imports glass bottles in the 700 mL size that is standard in the EU, fills them, and sends them back to the EU on shipping containers.

Now, “every year, every quarter we ship less and less,” he said, given the questions over when the tariffs could resume. “I have to make sure I don’t get stuck with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of inventory in Europe that I can’t sell.”

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Peay said he has largely let his EU exports dry up since 2018. “Essentially the European business I built up has been destroyed,” he said.

Others said they chose to absorb the costs of the 25% tariff to keep their toehold in the EU market.

“If you lose your shelf space, getting back on is going to be a thousand times more difficult,” Birnecker Hart said.

As a whole, U.S. whiskey makers have largely recovered from the 20% decline in EU exports they suffered while the 25% tariff was in place, a drop to $440 million from $552 million, according to the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. Since January 2022, when the tariff was suspended, EU exports have climbed back above the pretariff level, according to the trade group.

A 50% tariff “would be an utter disaster for the American whiskey industry here in the U.S.,” Chris Swonger, president of the trade group, said. “It’s getting frustrating being embroiled with trade disputes that have nothing to do with our industry.”

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How can the U.S. safeguard local small businesses from the adverse effects of tariffs? Join the conversation below.

Write to Kristina Peterson at [email protected] and Kim Mackrael at [email protected]

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Re: Bourbon

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:23 pm
by a fan
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:04 pm Afan to Europe-f**k you guys I’m vacationing in Latin America going forward!

U.S. Whiskey Is ‘Collateral Damage’ in Trans-Atlantic Trade Fight

U.S. distillers stare down a 50% tax on shipments to Europe next year


In this case, tariffs erected to protect some U.S. industries swung back to hurt other homegrown small businesses. The bar fight over whiskey is just one example. EU tariffs retaliating against the U.S. also struck Harley-Davidson motorcycles, orange juice and Levi’s jeans. Like whiskey, those products remain on the EU’s list of suspended tariffs.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

“We’re just collateral damage,” Glover said.

U.S. and EU officials say they hope to reach a deal to avoid the 50% tariff by year’s end, likely by delaying its effective date. But there is no end in sight to the broader trade dispute, leaving the threat of tariffs hanging over the whiskey industry.

“That there’s a significant chance the tariffs could come back is really enough to deter you from wanting to make investments in these foreign markets,” said Jeff Quint, chief executive of Cedar Ridge Distillery in Iowa. “Nobody’s going to make a significant investment in teaching the world about bourbon until we know these tariffs have been eliminated.”

American whiskey makers were drawn into the trade fight in 2018 after former President Donald Trump imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum. He cited national security reasons, arguing that metals imports had eroded the country’s ability to make its own weapons, tanks, and aircraft. The EU responded with levies on a range of U.S. products, selected for their iconic status as U.S. exports and to apply pressure on politicians in Republican and swing states.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Until the U.S. has permanently removed the steel and aluminum tariffs, “the EU cannot permanently end its countermeasures,” Olof Gill, a European Commission spokesman, said last week. “The EU and U.S. remain engaged in ongoing discussions to reach an agreement on permanently removing these tariffs.”

The EU initially set the whiskey tariff at 25%. It was suspended two years ago as part of a mutual agreement to put both the U.S. metals tariffs and EU retaliatory tariffs on hold until 2024. Unless an agreement is reached before then, the whiskey tariffs could be reimposed—this time doubled to 50%. President Biden met with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in late October, but that meeting wrapped up without an agreement.

The U.S. is now proposing a two-year extension of the current tariff reprieve, people familiar with the discussions said, which would keep both U.S. and EU tariffs on hold until the end of 2025. Both sides have said they want to avoid a replay of their earlier tariff fight.

“We will continue to work with the EU to find a solution that benefits our workers, stakeholders and businesses,” a spokesperson for the U.S. trade representative said.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Prolonged uncertainty is a particular problem for whiskey distillers because their product has to age, forcing them to plan years out.

“We need to make the amount of whiskey now that we think we’re going to sell in four to five years,” said Sonat Birnecker Hart, president of Koval Distillery, based in Chicago. “You’re eating a lot of costs up front.”

Smaller craft distilleries said selling in the EU often requires a major investment for them. They have to travel overseas to trade shows and build relationships with distributors and pay for promotions like free tastings to help introduce their product to a new audience overseas. And just getting their whiskey across the Atlantic is complicated.

Amir Peay, owner of the James E. Pepper Distilling Co. in Lexington, Ky., said he imports glass bottles in the 700 mL size that is standard in the EU, fills them, and sends them back to the EU on shipping containers.

Now, “every year, every quarter we ship less and less,” he said, given the questions over when the tariffs could resume. “I have to make sure I don’t get stuck with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of inventory in Europe that I can’t sell.”

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Peay said he has largely let his EU exports dry up since 2018. “Essentially the European business I built up has been destroyed,” he said.

Others said they chose to absorb the costs of the 25% tariff to keep their toehold in the EU market.

“If you lose your shelf space, getting back on is going to be a thousand times more difficult,” Birnecker Hart said.

As a whole, U.S. whiskey makers have largely recovered from the 20% decline in EU exports they suffered while the 25% tariff was in place, a drop to $440 million from $552 million, according to the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. Since January 2022, when the tariff was suspended, EU exports have climbed back above the pretariff level, according to the trade group.

A 50% tariff “would be an utter disaster for the American whiskey industry here in the U.S.,” Chris Swonger, president of the trade group, said. “It’s getting frustrating being embroiled with trade disputes that have nothing to do with our industry.”

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

How can the U.S. safeguard local small businesses from the adverse effects of tariffs? Join the conversation below.

Write to Kristina Peterson at [email protected] and Kim Mackrael at [email protected]

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The problem is really on the big guys....hurts their long and short term production projections, and makes moving forward next to impossible.

Re: Bourbon

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:31 pm
by Farfromgeneva
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:23 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:04 pm Afan to Europe-f**k you guys I’m vacationing in Latin America going forward!

U.S. Whiskey Is ‘Collateral Damage’ in Trans-Atlantic Trade Fight

U.S. distillers stare down a 50% tax on shipments to Europe next year


In this case, tariffs erected to protect some U.S. industries swung back to hurt other homegrown small businesses. The bar fight over whiskey is just one example. EU tariffs retaliating against the U.S. also struck Harley-Davidson motorcycles, orange juice and Levi’s jeans. Like whiskey, those products remain on the EU’s list of suspended tariffs.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

“We’re just collateral damage,” Glover said.

U.S. and EU officials say they hope to reach a deal to avoid the 50% tariff by year’s end, likely by delaying its effective date. But there is no end in sight to the broader trade dispute, leaving the threat of tariffs hanging over the whiskey industry.

“That there’s a significant chance the tariffs could come back is really enough to deter you from wanting to make investments in these foreign markets,” said Jeff Quint, chief executive of Cedar Ridge Distillery in Iowa. “Nobody’s going to make a significant investment in teaching the world about bourbon until we know these tariffs have been eliminated.”

American whiskey makers were drawn into the trade fight in 2018 after former President Donald Trump imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum. He cited national security reasons, arguing that metals imports had eroded the country’s ability to make its own weapons, tanks, and aircraft. The EU responded with levies on a range of U.S. products, selected for their iconic status as U.S. exports and to apply pressure on politicians in Republican and swing states.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Until the U.S. has permanently removed the steel and aluminum tariffs, “the EU cannot permanently end its countermeasures,” Olof Gill, a European Commission spokesman, said last week. “The EU and U.S. remain engaged in ongoing discussions to reach an agreement on permanently removing these tariffs.”

The EU initially set the whiskey tariff at 25%. It was suspended two years ago as part of a mutual agreement to put both the U.S. metals tariffs and EU retaliatory tariffs on hold until 2024. Unless an agreement is reached before then, the whiskey tariffs could be reimposed—this time doubled to 50%. President Biden met with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in late October, but that meeting wrapped up without an agreement.

The U.S. is now proposing a two-year extension of the current tariff reprieve, people familiar with the discussions said, which would keep both U.S. and EU tariffs on hold until the end of 2025. Both sides have said they want to avoid a replay of their earlier tariff fight.

“We will continue to work with the EU to find a solution that benefits our workers, stakeholders and businesses,” a spokesperson for the U.S. trade representative said.

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Prolonged uncertainty is a particular problem for whiskey distillers because their product has to age, forcing them to plan years out.

“We need to make the amount of whiskey now that we think we’re going to sell in four to five years,” said Sonat Birnecker Hart, president of Koval Distillery, based in Chicago. “You’re eating a lot of costs up front.”

Smaller craft distilleries said selling in the EU often requires a major investment for them. They have to travel overseas to trade shows and build relationships with distributors and pay for promotions like free tastings to help introduce their product to a new audience overseas. And just getting their whiskey across the Atlantic is complicated.

Amir Peay, owner of the James E. Pepper Distilling Co. in Lexington, Ky., said he imports glass bottles in the 700 mL size that is standard in the EU, fills them, and sends them back to the EU on shipping containers.

Now, “every year, every quarter we ship less and less,” he said, given the questions over when the tariffs could resume. “I have to make sure I don’t get stuck with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of inventory in Europe that I can’t sell.”

Advertisement - Scroll to Continue

Peay said he has largely let his EU exports dry up since 2018. “Essentially the European business I built up has been destroyed,” he said.

Others said they chose to absorb the costs of the 25% tariff to keep their toehold in the EU market.

“If you lose your shelf space, getting back on is going to be a thousand times more difficult,” Birnecker Hart said.

As a whole, U.S. whiskey makers have largely recovered from the 20% decline in EU exports they suffered while the 25% tariff was in place, a drop to $440 million from $552 million, according to the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. Since January 2022, when the tariff was suspended, EU exports have climbed back above the pretariff level, according to the trade group.

A 50% tariff “would be an utter disaster for the American whiskey industry here in the U.S.,” Chris Swonger, president of the trade group, said. “It’s getting frustrating being embroiled with trade disputes that have nothing to do with our industry.”

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

How can the U.S. safeguard local small businesses from the adverse effects of tariffs? Join the conversation below.

Write to Kristina Peterson at [email protected] and Kim Mackrael at [email protected]

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The problem is really on the big guys....hurts their long and short term production projections, and makes moving forward next to impossible.
Capex was already problematic with a doubling in the cost of capital. This just exacerbates it. Sounds like opportunity for you, good luck!