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Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
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Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
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wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:41 pm Referenced (and linked) in my post above, this article deserves it's own post by way of highlighting the 7 SCENARIOS FOR HOW THE MUELLER PROBE MIGHT 'WRAP UP'

1. Mueller sends the attorney general a simple “declination letter"
2. Mueller compiles a detailed “roadmap"
3. Mueller authors a detailed novelistic narrative
4. He offers both a final round of “his” indictments as well as a detailed report like #2 or #3
5. He offers a report, but not the report
6. He closes up shop but refers numerous active cases to other prosecutors
7. Mueller unseals one or more long-standing sealed indictments

Read the thought provoking details in the piece...

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No comment on these listed items? I would think there'd be opinions...

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dislaxxic wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:57 pm
wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:41 pm Referenced (and linked) in my post above, this article deserves it's own post by way of highlighting the 7 SCENARIOS FOR HOW THE MUELLER PROBE MIGHT 'WRAP UP'

1. Mueller sends the attorney general a simple “declination letter"
2. Mueller compiles a detailed “roadmap"
3. Mueller authors a detailed novelistic narrative
4. He offers both a final round of “his” indictments as well as a detailed report like #2 or #3
5. He offers a report, but not the report
6. He closes up shop but refers numerous active cases to other prosecutors
7. Mueller unseals one or more long-standing sealed indictments

Read the thought provoking details in the piece...

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No comment on these listed items? I would think there'd be opinions...

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Probably the best analysis I've seen. For what it's worth, Nunberg just predicted #2. I would add (8) The recent reports about the Final Mueller Report coming out next week and his work being finished are total BS.
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Chuck Todd just did a nice piece on the idea of "finished". There are MANY outstanding questions...including the fact that junior was never interviewed or appeared before the Grand Jury, an apparent potential indication that an indictment may be in the offing...maybe on "Indictment Fridays"??

House Judiciary may be getting a whole lot busier soon...

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foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
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dislaxxic wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:11 pm Chuck Todd just did a nice piece on the idea of "finished". There are MANY outstanding questions...including the fact that junior was never interviewed or appeared before the Grand Jury, an apparent potential indication that an indictment may be in the offing...maybe on "Indictment Fridays"??

House Judiciary may be getting a whole lot busier soon...

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MANY. I'll just throw this out there: All that valuable info Flynn handed over to Mueller, that Mueller said was so immensely helpful to his core mission. You know, the goods that bought Flynn (potentially) zero jail time? From a judge who also kinda sorta accused him of TREASON? What ever happened to that info? I suppose we are to believe Mueller thought it was so valuable because it exonerated a bunch of people, allowing Mueller to wrap this up? Now that would be a first!
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wahoomurf wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:29 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
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wahoomurf wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:29 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
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Neal Katyal in the Times this morning:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/21/opin ... e=Homepage

"The report is unlikely to be a dictionary-thick tome, which will disappoint some observers. But such brevity is not necessarily good news for the president. In fact, quite the opposite.

For months, the president’s lawyers have tried to discredit Mr. Mueller and this report, but their efforts may have backfired. A concise Mueller report might act as a “road map” to investigation for the Democratic House of Representatives — and it might also lead to further criminal investigation by other prosecutors. A short Mueller report would mark the end of the beginning, not the beginning of the end.

The report is unlikely to be lengthy by design: The special counsel regulations, which I had the privilege of drafting in 1999, envision a report that is concise, “a summary” of what he found. And Mr. Mueller’s mandate is limited: to look into criminal activity and counterintelligence matters surrounding Russia and the 2016 election, as well as any obstruction of justice relating to those investigations.

The regulations require the attorney general to give Congress a report, too. The regulations speak of the need for public confidence in the administration of justice and even have a provision for public release of the attorney general’s report. In a world where Mr. Mueller was the only investigator, the pressure for a comprehensive report to the public would be overwhelming.

This is where the “witch hunt” attacks on Mr. Mueller may have backfired. For 19 months, Mr. Trump and his team have had one target to shoot at, and that target has had limited jurisdiction. But now the investigation resembles the architecture of the internet, with many different nodes, and some of those nodes possess potentially unlimited jurisdiction. Their powers and scope go well beyond Mr. Mueller’s circumscribed mandate; they go to Mr. Trump’s judgment and whether he lied to the American people. They also include law enforcement investigations having nothing to do with Russia, such as whether the president directed the commission of serious campaign finance crimes, as federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York have already stated in filings. These are all critical matters, each with serious factual predicates already uncovered by prosecutors.

Had Mr. Trump and his coterie done nothing wrong, they would have had little to fear from the special counsel, and a report from Mr. Mueller that cleared him would be the gold seal of approval. But Mr. Trump’s behavior, including his dangling of pardons to witnesses in the investigation, makes total exoneration unlikely, even though it is enormously difficult to prosecute crimes with international dimensions and assertions of privilege. The investigation has been further clouded by the fact that people in Mr. Trump’s inner circle lied repeatedly when it came to Russia (that long list includes Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone).

Sure, it is at least possible to envision the special counsel resolving each strand of the investigation and making such information public in detail. But it is also quite possible — and more likely — to think that the president’s bashing of Mr. Mueller may induce him to issue a more limited, by-the-book report, which will spawn further investigation. And the bashing may have encouraged Mr. Mueller to turn matters over to other investigators who have not been subject to the same sorts of public attack.

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This news may be disappointing, for various reasons, to the president’s critics and supporters alike. But the ultimate result is a good one. It means the truth is likely to come out — maybe not on the timetable anyone wants, but it will. So whenever Mr. Mueller turns in his report, do not assume that things are over. Like “The king is dead, long live the King,” the investigations here serve a purpose that transcends any one individual or law enforcement entity. This is the architecture of our Constitution, which is designed to ferret out high-level wrongdoing through a variety of channels for the American public to see."
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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:57 pm
wahoomurf wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:29 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
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Is that gender neutral KY? You should know better in the new era of PC murph. :D
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:04 pm
wahoomurf wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:29 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
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Hey Roger! Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner!?
:lol: A banquet rather than a dinner. The guest list of "eager diners" will be huge.
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wahoomurf wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:08 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:04 pm
wahoomurf wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:29 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
71iRlpuZAUL._SY679_.jpg

Hey Roger! Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner!?
:lol: A banquet rather than a dinner. The guest list of "eager diners" will be huge.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Tossed salad to start!
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:21 pm
wahoomurf wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:08 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:04 pm
wahoomurf wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:29 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
71iRlpuZAUL._SY679_.jpg

Hey Roger! Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner!?
:lol: A banquet rather than a dinner. The guest list of "eager diners" will be huge.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Tossed salad to start!
For those that did not get the "Tossed Saled" comment. Well played TLD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dwN9TsK4lo :lol:
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youthathletics wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:21 pm
wahoomurf wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:08 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:04 pm
wahoomurf wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:29 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Trinity wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 pm Stone takes the stand. The judge ain’t buying his explanation and now he’s gagged.
He better get used to having things stuffed in his "mouth".
Variety is the spice of life. For a welcome change Roger, before he gets rogered, might try this product.
71iRlpuZAUL._SY679_.jpg

Hey Roger! Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner!?
:lol: A banquet rather than a dinner. The guest list of "eager diners" will be huge.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Tossed salad to start!
For those that did not get the "Tossed Saled" comment. Well played TLD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dwN9TsK4lo :lol:
Thought about it.... but decided that some people may not share my sense of humor.... you do ;)
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NY prosecutors are planning Manafort charges to thwart any pardon nonsense from Trump. Build that Wall.
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YESTERDAY [2/21] NOEL FRANCISCO RAISED THE STAKES ON THE MYSTERY APPELLANT

"Consider: There is significant evidence to believe that a foreign country — Russia — bribed Trump to give them sanctions relief by floating a $300 million business deal. There is also evidence that, after a series of back channel meetings we know Zainab Ahmed was investigating, such funds may have come through a Middle Eastern proxy, like Qatar. There is not just evidence that Qatar did provide funds no one in their right mind would have provided to the President’s family, in the form of a bailout to Jared Kushner’s albatross investment in 666 Fifth Avenue. But they’re already laying the groundwork to claim they accidentally bailed him out, without realizing what they were doing.

So if Russia paid off a bribe to Trump via Qatar, and Qatar is trying to hide that fact by claiming Qatar Investment Authority is a foreign government that can only be regulated in this country by sanctions imposed by the guy who is trading sanctions to get rich … well, you can see why that’s a non-starter."


Conspiracy Theory...or...Theory of Collusion?

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dislaxxic wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:32 am YESTERDAY [2/21] NOEL FRANCISCO RAISED THE STAKES ON THE MYSTERY APPELLANT

"Consider: There is significant evidence to believe that a foreign country — Russia — bribed Trump to give them sanctions relief by floating a $300 million business deal. There is also evidence that, after a series of back channel meetings we know Zainab Ahmed was investigating, such funds may have come through a Middle Eastern proxy, like Qatar. There is not just evidence that Qatar did provide funds no one in their right mind would have provided to the President’s family, in the form of a bailout to Jared Kushner’s albatross investment in 666 Fifth Avenue. But they’re already laying the groundwork to claim they accidentally bailed him out, without realizing what they were doing.

So if Russia paid off a bribe to Trump via Qatar, and Qatar is trying to hide that fact by claiming Qatar Investment Authority is a foreign government that can only be regulated in this country by sanctions imposed by the guy who is trading sanctions to get rich … well, you can see why that’s a non-starter."


Conspiracy Theory...or...Theory of Collusion?

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Dis... while your at it can you figure out who really was behind the fence at the grassy knoll? ;) That is the great thing about conspiracy theories, they can take you to where ever your imagination wants to go.
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by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
This is cradle and shoot signing out.
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