Re: Brown 2024
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:10 pm
anyone hear if Justin Turri is a potential candidate?
sheesh, let the season be over before letting a newbie troll you guys into thinking Daly is or should be imminently out...unless someone actually knows that to be the case, it's pretty darn premature. If it's actually the case, it's up to the AD to make those moves.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:54 pmHas to be from D1, just based on Brown's hiring history.Lets at least have some fun and start talking about who should replace Daly.
HC? AC? Offensive or defensive bent? X & O rep or more noted as a recruiter? Past (or present) Ivy experience? Alumnus? How many are in coaching currently? Thompson not setting the world on fire at UNC. Any other alum out there doing well?
Kip Turner? Is he heir-apparent at UVa?
If the AD is going to make a move she's going to have to do it within days of the season ending. There's too much at stake during the summer (portal, recruiting, scouting prospects, etc.) to wait to make a move. My guess is she already knows what she's going to do and has already cleared it with the administration. The culture of this team has been toxic since last season's senior suspension drama. It's actually gotten worse this year. From what I'm hearing Daly has lost the locker room and you only have to read this thread to see what everyone else thinks of the ACs.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:24 pmsheesh, let the season be over before letting a newbie troll you guys into thinking Daly is or should be imminently out...unless someone actually knows that to be the case, it's pretty darn premature. If it's actually the case, it's up to the AD to make those moves.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:54 pmHas to be from D1, just based on Brown's hiring history.Lets at least have some fun and start talking about who should replace Daly.
HC? AC? Offensive or defensive bent? X & O rep or more noted as a recruiter? Past (or present) Ivy experience? Alumnus? How many are in coaching currently? Thompson not setting the world on fire at UNC. Any other alum out there doing well?
Kip Turner? Is he heir-apparent at UVa?
It just feels like trolling to me to incite unrest with coach in-season.
Summer provides plenty of opportunity for grinding teeth!
Re the situation at Dartmouth, unless Kirwan is having a radically different experience with the new AD and new President than what has been reported to be the case, he's got a terrific opportunity in hand and lots of support from both admin and alums. Historically high support. Not sure why Brown would be remotely attractive in comparison...sounded like other issues might need improvement before coach selection is or should be on the table.
I have zero inside knowledge and no dog in the hunt, but the discussion of firing Daly instigated by a handful of rather infrequent or recently joining posters seems like an agenda.BrownDad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:30 pmIf the AD is going to make a move she's going to have to do it within days of the season ending. There's too much at stake during the summer (portal, recruiting, scouting prospects, etc.) to wait to make a move. My guess is she already knows what she's going to do and has already cleared it with the administration. The culture of this team has been toxic since last season's senior suspension drama. It's actually gotten worse this year. From what I'm hearing Daly has lost the locker room and you only have to read this thread to see what everyone else thinks of the ACs.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:24 pmsheesh, let the season be over before letting a newbie troll you guys into thinking Daly is or should be imminently out...unless someone actually knows that to be the case, it's pretty darn premature. If it's actually the case, it's up to the AD to make those moves.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:54 pmHas to be from D1, just based on Brown's hiring history.Lets at least have some fun and start talking about who should replace Daly.
HC? AC? Offensive or defensive bent? X & O rep or more noted as a recruiter? Past (or present) Ivy experience? Alumnus? How many are in coaching currently? Thompson not setting the world on fire at UNC. Any other alum out there doing well?
Kip Turner? Is he heir-apparent at UVa?
It just feels like trolling to me to incite unrest with coach in-season.
Summer provides plenty of opportunity for grinding teeth!
Re the situation at Dartmouth, unless Kirwan is having a radically different experience with the new AD and new President than what has been reported to be the case, he's got a terrific opportunity in hand and lots of support from both admin and alums. Historically high support. Not sure why Brown would be remotely attractive in comparison...sounded like other issues might need improvement before coach selection is or should be on the table.
bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:24 am Aw #ell grab Benson from across town.
Let's get back to some reasonable speculation; 3 of last 4 at home. Win predictions? Bueller? Bueller?
Princeton, not likely. Obvious talent disparity at offensive & defensive ends. Middle of the field? Princeton is young overall. Common opponents to date: They lost to Cornell by 1 at the buzzer, thumped by UMd. They need the win to keep pace with the 3-1 teams.
Dartmouth is certainly a reasonable W prediction. Common opps to date: Crushed by Georgetown, lost to Penn by 3 in the snow, They haven't impressed in Ivy tilts this year, and it's historically a Brown W, especially at home.
Bryant has looked better than Brown (cripes at 1-8 most teams have looked better). Common opponents to date: Bryant>PC & BU, Quinnipiac>Bryant.
At Harvard. Really close games recently. They stomped PC, lost by 2 to Yale in New Haven. Will this game mean anything for the Johnnies when it's played?
Agree with all of this but also . . . do the Ivies EVER hire a head coach in any sport away from another league team where that person was a current head coach? Not just men's lacrosse? I guess there must be examples but in the modern sports era I don't think that really happens. (I know the Penn head FB coach Al Bagnoli went to Columbia but he hadn't been Penn's head coach for a couple of years.). Come to think of it, in Division I men's lax more broadly, how often does a head coach leave his school in his conference to go to another school in that same conference in lacrosse? I don't think that happens much either. It's more Petro/Tambroni/Tillman/Tiffany/Milliman leaving an Ivy to go to an ACC or Big 10. (And don't think people haven't come looking for Andy Shay plenty of times . . .)MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:24 pmsheesh, let the season be over before letting a newbie troll you guys into thinking Daly is or should be imminently out...unless someone actually knows that to be the case, it's pretty darn premature. If it's actually the case, it's up to the AD to make those moves.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:54 pmHas to be from D1, just based on Brown's hiring history.Lets at least have some fun and start talking about who should replace Daly.
HC? AC? Offensive or defensive bent? X & O rep or more noted as a recruiter? Past (or present) Ivy experience? Alumnus? How many are in coaching currently? Thompson not setting the world on fire at UNC. Any other alum out there doing well?
Kip Turner? Is he heir-apparent at UVa?
It just feels like trolling to me to incite unrest with coach in-season.
Summer provides plenty of opportunity for grinding teeth!
Re the situation at Dartmouth, unless Kirwan is having a radically different experience with the new AD and new President than what has been reported to be the case, he's got a terrific opportunity in hand and lots of support from both admin and alums. Historically high support. Not sure why Brown would be remotely attractive in comparison...sounded like other issues might need improvement before coach selection is or should be on the table.
Yes, extraordinarily rare for a head coach in any sport to move in-conference in Ivy. Assistants yes, head coaches no. Rare in most conferences, most sports.The Orfling wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:58 pmAgree with all of this but also . . . do the Ivies EVER hire a head coach in any sport away from another league team where that person was a current head coach? Not just men's lacrosse? I guess there must be examples but in the modern sports era I don't think that really happens. (I know the Penn head FB coach Al Bagnoli went to Columbia but he hadn't been Penn's head coach for a couple of years.). Come to think of it, in Division I men's lax more broadly, how often does a head coach leave his school in his conference to go to another school in that same conference in lacrosse? I don't think that happens much either. It's more Petro/Tambroni/Tillman/Tiffany/Milliman leaving an Ivy to go to an ACC or Big 10. (And don't think people haven't come looking for Andy Shay plenty of times . . .)MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:24 pmsheesh, let the season be over before letting a newbie troll you guys into thinking Daly is or should be imminently out...unless someone actually knows that to be the case, it's pretty darn premature. If it's actually the case, it's up to the AD to make those moves.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:54 pmHas to be from D1, just based on Brown's hiring history.Lets at least have some fun and start talking about who should replace Daly.
HC? AC? Offensive or defensive bent? X & O rep or more noted as a recruiter? Past (or present) Ivy experience? Alumnus? How many are in coaching currently? Thompson not setting the world on fire at UNC. Any other alum out there doing well?
Kip Turner? Is he heir-apparent at UVa?
It just feels like trolling to me to incite unrest with coach in-season.
Summer provides plenty of opportunity for grinding teeth!
Re the situation at Dartmouth, unless Kirwan is having a radically different experience with the new AD and new President than what has been reported to be the case, he's got a terrific opportunity in hand and lots of support from both admin and alums. Historically high support. Not sure why Brown would be remotely attractive in comparison...sounded like other issues might need improvement before coach selection is or should be on the table.
Great pointsMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:57 amYes, extraordinarily rare for a head coach in any sport to move in-conference in Ivy. Assistants yes, head coaches no. Rare in most conferences, most sports.The Orfling wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:58 pmAgree with all of this but also . . . do the Ivies EVER hire a head coach in any sport away from another league team where that person was a current head coach? Not just men's lacrosse? I guess there must be examples but in the modern sports era I don't think that really happens. (I know the Penn head FB coach Al Bagnoli went to Columbia but he hadn't been Penn's head coach for a couple of years.). Come to think of it, in Division I men's lax more broadly, how often does a head coach leave his school in his conference to go to another school in that same conference in lacrosse? I don't think that happens much either. It's more Petro/Tambroni/Tillman/Tiffany/Milliman leaving an Ivy to go to an ACC or Big 10. (And don't think people haven't come looking for Andy Shay plenty of times . . .)MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:24 pmsheesh, let the season be over before letting a newbie troll you guys into thinking Daly is or should be imminently out...unless someone actually knows that to be the case, it's pretty darn premature. If it's actually the case, it's up to the AD to make those moves.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:54 pmHas to be from D1, just based on Brown's hiring history.Lets at least have some fun and start talking about who should replace Daly.
HC? AC? Offensive or defensive bent? X & O rep or more noted as a recruiter? Past (or present) Ivy experience? Alumnus? How many are in coaching currently? Thompson not setting the world on fire at UNC. Any other alum out there doing well?
Kip Turner? Is he heir-apparent at UVa?
It just feels like trolling to me to incite unrest with coach in-season.
Summer provides plenty of opportunity for grinding teeth!
Re the situation at Dartmouth, unless Kirwan is having a radically different experience with the new AD and new President than what has been reported to be the case, he's got a terrific opportunity in hand and lots of support from both admin and alums. Historically high support. Not sure why Brown would be remotely attractive in comparison...sounded like other issues might need improvement before coach selection is or should be on the table.
But this is a premature conversation IMO as to who would be a good fit and want the gig. I have no doubt that an organized and enthusiastic effort by Brown at the appropriate time would yield a top flight person for the job. Whether they’d be more successful or not is another question, but finding top flight candidates would definitely happen.
The problem most Ivies face is not so much finding excellent coaches, it’s getting enough total talent assembled and now supported in a new Wild West world of NIL and transfers, and as it always has been its keeping the successful coaches in place once they break through. Including successfully replacing great assistants. Success usually means coaches are poached to programs willing to throw more money and overall support.
Yale lax has solved this with billionaire support but that’s unique.
And perhaps of equal importance, so is his wife!wayfarer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 pm I don't recall the circumstances but Gaudet is a Dartmouth alum.
https://dartmouthsports.com/sports/mens ... audet/1587
Depends on the crowd…Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:44 pmAnd perhaps of equal importance, so is his wife!wayfarer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 pm I don't recall the circumstances but Gaudet is a Dartmouth alum.
https://dartmouthsports.com/sports/mens ... audet/1587
Noooo, we ( Navy Fans) hope one day Coach Wellner returns to Navy as HC. But he also fits at ND and fit is 100% it.Counselor wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:13 pm Ryan Wellner, assistant at ND and Navy wanted the Brown job last
time around- knows everyone, a lax junkie, coached at Chaminade and Stony Brook ( during some successful years)…..Jon Thomson would love the position - intense, Brown passionate, high character, wouldn’t talk for 48 hours after losing a game when a player…….forget about Caseese or Kirwan or Jamie Munro having any interest ……Seremet is a class act…..think the talent level has been overrated this season in blaming the coaching staff for losses…strong class coming in some 4 months…
Another example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Miller_(basketball) Didn't go well for the Quakers.wayfarer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 pm One example of an intra-IVY head coaching poach. I don't recall the circumstances but Gaudet is a Dartmouth alum.
https://dartmouthsports.com/sports/mens ... audet/1587