youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:26 pm
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youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:35 am
It is becoming harder and harder to communicate with you when your goal is to continually put down anything that took place in the four years under Trump....it significantly minimizes anything you say. He was pro bringing manufacturing back.....then laughed at (as if it could happen overnight), then Biden signs the CHIPs act which was Trumps baby, and not a peep....Biden gets the credit.
YA, ffs, that's the dumbest Trump spin you've ever given.
You want to give credit to Trump for running his mouth-----and not doing anything about what he SAID he'd do ?!?!
Biden ACTUALLY works on, and SIGNS a bill, and you want to give Trump credit for the bill...that he didn't bother working on, or passing?
That about the score here?
GTFO with this stuff, YA.
When have you EVER given Obama or Biden for saying or promising something----and not actually following through with the promise?
My point is the hypocrisy You guys have a tendency to overlook progress through the lens of show me the data or the legislation or the bill. How many times have you implemented something far after one of your employees suggested an idea....never? Well, if you answered yes, I understand where you are coming from, and if you answered no, well, then you are just playing partisan forum talk.
Great. Show me one time where you gave Obama credit for saying something....or setting the table for something that Trump finished, and I'll believe this.
I'll wait. You've got four years of examples to work with.
Is this good enough?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/an ... good-jobhe
No. Not what I asked, my man.
i asked you to show me one time where YOU gave Obama credit for saying something (and not doing something about it)...and then Trump finished the job.
Ugh....Im not doing that, that is silly scoreboard stuff.
What are you talking about?
-you called us hypocrites and partisans for not giving Trump credit for a bill Biden signed.
-I then asked the obvious question: when the F have YOU ever given a past POTUS credit for something a current POTUS signed into a bill? And the answer, obviously, is that you have never done that.
Get the problem now? Why are we hypocrites and partisans, and YOU aren't?
No....your setup is false equivalency. We are not comparing legislation carryover bills between POTUS', that is your set up. I was first comparing the never a positive word for a Trump.....my first sentence spells that out quite clearly. The last part was the emphasis on the 1st statement.
I have praised Biden and BHO and Trump.
Ok. Then we're talking past each other.
I'm delighted to give Trump credit where credit is due. But as with Biden or any other POTUS, I'm not gonna give them any credit for things they promised, or said...and never turned into laws or actions.
Trump didn't bring manufacturing back, to stick to the conversation. Biden signed a bill that should help greatly...but we're not there yet.
And Biden signed an infrastructure bill which will HELP set the table for more manufacturing.
Trump? Didn't do diddly for manufacturing, unless you want to count Covid bailouts, which helped EVERYONE. And i was, and am, VERY grateful he did that.